Elitists "META" Plague

svendf · December 2020

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

LadySinflower wrote: »

I can't say exactly how many, but many parties fail because people are selfish jerks. Here's an example. Last night I needed to do an extremely fast run or I would miss my event tickets. I was unable to log in until late. I queued up for normal fungal grotto 1. I don't have a mic and it's hard to text chat with a PUG, so I didn't say anything except a quick hello. Nobody responded. They just took off running as is typical with a PUG. At about the second boss I noticed the whole group didn't seem to be together. I could only see the other dps fighting with me. It wasn't because I had not kept up at the beginning either. We all arrived at the first mob together. It became obvious that the tank and healer were gone when the other dps and I were suddenly the only two people left in the group - the others both logged out about the time we were killing the first dreugh boss. I didn't think anything of it at that moment. People quit PUGs all the time. We kept going because it's an easy dungeon for two people to beat. We killed everything and ran to the end to find the final boss already dead. The tank and healer had immediately run to the end to kill the final boss without saying anything to us, then had logged out leaving us unable to finish the dungeon. The other mobs and bosses were left there for the other dps and I to waste our time on while they got their completion without us. I typed into group chat to find out if the other dps wanted to stay grouped and go for another dungeon but he left the group. Probably disgusted, as I was for having my time wasted. I realize that I probably should have been paying closer attention and might have realized what the tank and healer were doing if I had been. But when I stopped to fight the first mobs so did everyone else. When nobody is communicating you really don't expect two group members to just run off like that. They could have typed or said into chat "skip everything, run to final boss," but they didn't. What they did was a d*ck move. And people do rude stuff in dungeons all the time. There are a lot of reasons why groups fail to complete dungeons, and this kind of crap is one of them. In case you're wondering I did not get my tickets before the game turned over to the next day. I probably would have if I hadn't had to queue up again.

its unlucky for u
but its a bit your fault to cause its obsolute common in fg 1 to do everything to the 2. boss than jump of the waterfall and go to last boss
(cause only 2. and last boss are required)

i actualy cant even remeber when i last time did the dreug boss... and thats not eltists thats all day busissnes in fg 1

Can´t remember the last time I was in a group skiping in fg1. It´s actually faster to kill all than jump around and climbing all over the place - for some of us anyway-

To blame the poster puts you right there in tthe group, with these two selfish cr'p player´s.

Xebov · December 2020

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

Had two interesting experiences today playing.

One was a guy insisting Tanks putting on specific trial gear to clear regular vet unhollowed grave which was a bit overkill..

The other was me asking a group in Scalecaller if they new mechs.. No one answered..

First boss only I go into the ice shards that CC's to survive the Ogre's attack, everyone else insta wipe.. Guess there's my answer.

Seems to me people are pretty extreme either / or.

Either they're REALLY elitist or they're complety naive to their own capabilities (and/or lack there of) and try to wing hard content in hopes of being carried.

Both examples are inexperienced players. The first example is a player that has no idea what is realy required for a dungeon and the second guys dont know mechs and are ignorant.

Ackwalan · December 2020

Runefang wrote: »

I believe the OPs point is a valid one (if I understand it). New players, especially healers and tanks, can benefit from a non-meta set up to begin with. It’s called running a selfish set up, where your gear helps you perform your role rather helps the group i.e. staying alive as the tank, sustaining magicka in order to heal.

The meta for non-DD roles is mostly about optimising group buffs to maximise total group damage. That won’t help you clear if you’re not able to stay alive as the tank or sustain as the healer.

But once you start clearing on selfish gear you should transition to the meta because it’s definitely possible and everything becomes easier to clear in meta gear. If healers and tanks provide damage and sustain buffs to DDs it means they can focus on damage over sustain and things die much faster. It’s an exponential curve of damage when comparing everybody in selfish/non-meta gear to everybody in meta gear.

Blaming content creators for not providing these set ups isn’t helpful. Do some quick research and you can come up with your own build.

Isn't also selfish for the DPS to build only for DPS? You call a tank that builds to help tank selfish yet want want the tank to build to buff the DPS. What is really the selfish build.