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F2P till bots are addressed? (Watch the video)

  • felixgamingx1
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    Seems only fair sense we not getting 100% of what we paid for.


    Honestly, i think ppl so worried about bots should just rein it in a bit. There will never be an end to them in MMOs. Ever. And you know why? Because some kid with too much cash from mommy and daddy or some rich dude who'd rather pay to win is always gonna be there to buy <insert ingame currency of choice>.

    Yes, ZOS should do something to keep them in check, but there will never be an end to them. Its just flat ridiculous to demand a free sub over it.

    I could ignore 1 or 2 bots but when you have 9 bots clustered killing the boss and stealing the loot it gets annoying.

    Rediculous demands are fun and appropriate to rediculous bot problems
  • felixgamingx1
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvWtG6gCrh4&amp;feature=youtu.be

    Found some bots running a loop in the lv.15-20 area. Sorry for the crappy quality I forgot to change from the default settings on the new screen capture for the game.

    That's amazing footage congratz
  • Spiritreaver_ESO
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    Seems only fair sense we not getting 100% of what we paid for.


    Honestly, i think ppl so worried about bots should just rein it in a bit. There will never be an end to them in MMOs. Ever. And you know why? Because some kid with too much cash from mommy and daddy or some rich dude who'd rather pay to win is always gonna be there to buy <insert ingame currency of choice>.

    Yes, ZOS should do something to keep them in check, but there will never be an end to them. Its just flat ridiculous to demand a free sub over it.

    I could ignore 1 or 2 bots but when you have 9 bots clustered killing the boss and stealing the loot it gets annoying.

    Rediculous demands are fun and appropriate to rediculous bot problems

    Well as long as you acknowledge that your demand is ridiculous, carry on.
  • Rytfield
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    f2p = more bots

    Compensation afterwards would be a better idea but don't count on it.
  • felixgamingx1
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    Rytfield wrote: »
    f2p = more bots

    Compensation afterwards would be a better idea but don't count on it.

    The future of this game remains very uncertain don't be desappointed if it's F2P in a few.
  • Reykice
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    shouteha wrote: »
    Haha sound illegal but it is in their ToS. You paying to use their product aka borrowing the "account". The account is rightfully theirs and they can terminate or do whatever they like with it whenever they want. So, in short, it is legal and you can't sue them for it, but they can sue you if you pay->get ban a week later-> call cc company to deny payment.

    Stop spreading lies... their TOS has no value in most countries... yes they can ban you for no reason(aka they are allowed to refuse your as a client) but they can`t sue you for cancelling.

    In the EU as far as i know they must give your money back in the first 14 days...

    Either way 13 EUR is not even worth the time it takes to ask your bank to reverse the charge but still... you can do it if you want to.
  • Reykice
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    For those of you who rarely see bots. Try a public dungeon. I regularly see a dozen or so camping the boss. All templars. All using Puncturing Strikes.

    This.... 100% this. So annoying they don`t ban them on the spot... by the time they ban them 1 month later they made enough gold to be able to buy another account and just keep on going.
  • Avidus
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    I read the OP, all I have to say is.

    Today a man stole a bottle of water from a store.
    I don't think I should have to pay taxes because the government did not stop this.
  • Sandmanninja
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    Nooblet wrote: »
    I have had 0 problems with bots. Infact I have never seen a bot ingame.
    Then you must sit in a camp, all alone, not going anywhere. They spam in zone, in cities and horrible in dungeons.

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  • Rantog
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    Kloaked wrote: »
    Everyone who has Imperial edition can make their armor into the Imperial style by right-clicking the piece of gear and selecting the option. You can only do it to certain items, such as crafted items and some of what you pick up in the world only. I've picked up items that wouldn't allow me to transmog them.

    Yes, they can, and that is ONE of the SIX listed features.
    One of the OTHER 5 is the ability to Craft in Imperial Style.

    Two, different features .. and nowhere does it indicate that we would be required to play an Imperial character to have that feature.

    And it isn't about Motifs - because those are for All accounts, and this is a feature Only for the collectors edition.


    It's a minor thing, but it IS a feature we were promised -that was not delivered.

    People keep arguing with me that you have to BE Imperial for that to apply - but you don't have to BE Imperial to ride the Imperial horse, or Be Imperial to Convert gear to that style..

    Why would Crafting be special - and if it were, why not indicate as much?

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    Sorry, not trying to sidetrack - just answering :)
  • wiz12268b14_ESO
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    Bots and spammers will leave with the people who are here. I suspect once people MUST pay a sub the population will crash. If what few are left dont buy gold then the bots and spammers will leave.

    Every other game out there is free to play and those games arent crawling with spammers or bots, in fact they have almost zero. The only game that still has an y number of spammers and bots is WoW, because enough people still play that game to make it worth it for them.
  • Nooblet
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    Noswell wrote: »
    Nooblet wrote: »
    I have had 0 problems with bots. Infact I have never seen a bot ingame.

    Not that I doubt you, but I'd like to know what dungeons you've done so I could roll a toon in that faction. I'd love that experience.

    Well I am VR10, so pretty sure i just stayed ahead of the bots. I did however see some today, as i decided to go back and get some skyshards and books that i missed along the way, and I was kinda curious about the bot thing. First few dungeons I didnt see any, but many of the others I did. I still had no issue tagging the boss for kill credit.

    I can certainly see how it would be annoying, but it's hardly game breaking IMO. Regardless action should be taken against them, and I am sure it will in time.
    Edited by Nooblet on April 23, 2014 3:37AM
  • cisadanepajsuxrwb17_ESO
    I played Khenarti's Roost, Auridon, Grahtwood, Greenshade, and now Malabal Tor halfway thru. I am now level 38, and has been playing since day -5. I have NEVER seen a SINGLE bot in dungeons in any shape. Is it happening at the lower levels or what? If its as rampant as it is, surely me or my other friend wouldve spotted one?

    Mind you , boss camping does happen but not done by bots, theyre human bcoz the move around randomly and stuff. Unless its a bot train or unless u observe that particular character for hours on end doing the exact same stuff, or u stayed for more than 20 spawns or something and see he is exactly doing the same thing, then yeah probably

    I'm just saying that just because someone killed a boss 4-5 times in a dungeon before he leaves doesnt mean he's a bot.
  • Saerydoth
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    Rantog wrote: »
    Kloaked wrote: »
    Everyone who has Imperial edition can make their armor into the Imperial style by right-clicking the piece of gear and selecting the option. You can only do it to certain items, such as crafted items and some of what you pick up in the world only. I've picked up items that wouldn't allow me to transmog them.

    Yes, they can, and that is ONE of the SIX listed features.
    One of the OTHER 5 is the ability to Craft in Imperial Style.

    Two, different features .. and nowhere does it indicate that we would be required to play an Imperial character to have that feature.

    And it isn't about Motifs - because those are for All accounts, and this is a feature Only for the collectors edition.


    It's a minor thing, but it IS a feature we were promised -that was not delivered.

    People keep arguing with me that you have to BE Imperial for that to apply - but you don't have to BE Imperial to ride the Imperial horse, or Be Imperial to Convert gear to that style..

    Why would Crafting be special - and if it were, why not indicate as much?

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    Sorry, not trying to sidetrack - just answering :)

    Nowhere in the ad does it say that you can craft Imperial armor as any race. You're assuming things that aren't there. If it's not explicitly stated, they don't have to provide it.
  • RaZaddha
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    Hahahahahahah. You are funny OP. It's not going to happen... ever. I wonder where some people get those ideas
    Rantog wrote: »
    Even w/o the bots, those who paid for imperial Still aren't getting 100% of what they paid for. The purchase page lists 6 - distinct advantages to the edition, one of them is the ability to Craft items in Imperial style.
    - We never got that feature... except those who play imperial race.. but that isn't required for the similar feature of Converting items TO Imperial style, nor to ride the Imperial horse, or anything else.

    They won't take it F2P yet - they have to get that first month or they'll go belly up.
    But I think they are in for a Rude Awakening when they realize just how many of us are going to cancel ~ 4 days before the first payment is due.

    Right click any piece of gear thats not named. You will find a option "Convert to imperial style"
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