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What religion is the most beneficial for the Dark Elves?

Grandchamp1989
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I was wondering what people think is the most beneficial for the Dark Elves?
The 3 Good Daedra (Azura, Boethia, Mephala)
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The Tribunal (Vivec, Almelexia and Sotha Sil)

Which do you think would be most beneficial to Dark Elven society and culture?

What religion is the most beneficial for the Dark Elves? 120 votes

The 3 Good Daedra (Azura, Boethia, Mephala)
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The Tribunal (Vivec, Almelexia and Sotha Sil)
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Aedric Worship
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Other (Specify?)
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Their culture should not worship any deity
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  • jahaposada
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    Innoruuk
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    Numidium
  • Grandchamp1989
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    jahaposada wrote: »
    Innoruuk

    Is that an elder scrolls religion? I'm not familiar with it.
  • Mindcr0w
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    Their culture should not worship any deity
    The Tribunal are liar liar pants on fire false gods, the daedra are dangerous enough to be more trouble than they are worth getting involved with, the Aedra...are just kind of lame.

    Better to achieve CHIM or zero sum trying.
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    It's too late baby. Their fate is sealed. The Red Year is on the way:)
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  • Master_Fluff
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    Rollie The Guar. He can be found in all his awesome splendour in the Ascadian Isles. Not until the end of the Third Era, though. :D
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  • VaranisArano
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    My Dunmer characters who survive Red Year prefer the 4th Era Reclamations.

    That being said, I also headcanon that there's a substantial minority of the Dunmer who think that my Nerevarine murdered Almalexia (instead of Almalexia trying to kill her first at the end of Tribunal and thus killing her in self defense), and so they still revere Almalexia as a martyred goddess.
  • magnusthorek
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    I didn't vote yet but, what about The House of Troubles? Although not that much worshipped, there are still followers that, while I was playing ESO's Morrowind, were nastily convincing — like all sorts of cults
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  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    The 3 Good Daedra (Azura, Boethia, Mephala)
    We don't recognize false gods in these parts lol
  • vestahls
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    Unironically the House of Troubles.

    The Dunmer stagnated under the Tribunal, because they were way too protected, and had no way of facing any real issues, and therefore no way to advance, philosophically and religiously.

    The Three Good Daedra have never done a single good thing for the Dunmer.

    Only the House of Troubles - which are kinda/sorta/not quite worshipped under the Tribunal, but appeased - have anything to contribute to the Dunmer by constantly challenging them.
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  • ArchMikem
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    The 3 Good Daedra (Azura, Boethia, Mephala)
    I'm only picking the Daedra for Lady Azurah. She's the only one that legitimately loves what is hers. Mephala and Boethiah just want to kill you.

    The Three are just fake Tyrants. I still am not sure if the Aedra are even "around" as they keep being mentioned as dead Gods yet sometimes you'll see worshippers of them actually receiving blessings and power.

    But then personally I wouldn't WORSHIP anyone. Yes the Daedra do in fact exist and you can very much respect them for what they are, but having to worship something defeats the point of free will.
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  • Raltin
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    Death by argonians! They shall sacrifice themselves to their reptilian overlords! xD

    Jokes aside lets go over some of the pros and cons of the options...

    TRIBUNAL: The Tribunal allows the dunmer prosperity with the outside world without being fully shunned by it like full-on daedra worship does to the majority of the orsimer. The tribunal is organized and has created a very stable society... they are also as much akin to monarchs as they are gods; having a direct hand in events as they lord over their people in their palaces... HOWEVER... Almalexia is a lying, narcissistic, manipulative nutcase, Sotha Sil is a despondent negligent shut-in, and Vivec... DESPITE being a poetic hump-jockey... is kind of the middle ground between the other two and isn't all that bad a guy. One of those 'our gods are flawed but they share our flaws' situations. It favors prosperity at the cost of honor and integrity, covered by a mask that shallowly mimics those two things. And of course, like any house of cards, it is one day fated to crumble.

    DAEDRA: The 'good daedra'? Don't even have to get into that one, but I might as well... Malacath at least has the sort of bond with his orcs that the Tribunal has with their dunmer, but the Reclamations... Azura's really the only 'good' one among them that has any sort of sympathy for the dunmer, though she can be one stern mother that's for sure. When it comes to Mephala and Boethia? Weeeelllll... mercy isn't anything high on their list of priorities, with their worshipers basically being ants that they play with as they see fit, though JUST humanely handled enough that they aren't labeled bad daedra like molag bal. In my honest opinion, were the dunmer as a whole to worship the daedra again, they'd be as shunned, weakened, and diminished to the rest of the world as the Reachfolk and the Orsimer are, with the only thing on their side being the ownership of larger swathes of land and a higher population density than the other two. That said, you have the Red Year happening, which puts a dent in those two advantages... and so the dunmer we meet by the 4th era are naught but a shadow of their former selves. That said though, it comes with the benefit of retaining their cultural identities and their pride, which is a top priority for any race.

    AEDRA: In terms of Aedra worship... it would certainly benefit the dunmer and bring them into the mainstream society with the rest of the world, namely the other races of mer and the races of men, who by vast majority worship the aedra. They'd finally have some level of acceptance, and even aid, from their neighbors if they did this... however, that's not going to happen. Daedra worship, being different, is deeply ingrained into dunmeri culture and society... shunning the aedra is the very reason they became dunmer in the first place, all the way back to becoming chimer and being banished from Summerset in a mass exodus. The dunmer, like their altmer counterparts, would not spit on and dishonor the choices of their ancestors (for ancestry is just as important to the dunmer as it is the altmer) and embrace the very ideologies that their bloodlines shunned to birth their own race and culture.

    OTHER: Now, we get to the "Other" category... aside from daedra, the tribunal, and aedra, there isn't much left out there to worship other than full-on ancestor worship (no daedra or tribunal), which the dunmer MIGHT embrace, though unlikely, and it could earn them a place on the civilized world's stage in the process... or non-daedric and non-aedric entities... of which there are really only two: Sithis and the Hist, which are pure Padomaic and Anuic, respectively. The hist, in all honestly, is pretty much just for the argonians, and aren't really interested in 'worship' in the traditional sense... the Hist are more... family-oriented entities? They love their lizard-bebbies, and that's pretty much it... they don't really care about what the rest of the world does as long as they're left alone. Sithis on the other hand? Sithis isn't worshiped in the traditional sense, just like the Hist, though honoring Sithis comes closer to religious worship than honoring the Hist does. I could see a SMALL chance that the dunmer could learn to embrace Sithis, what with their daedra worship previously, and of course the argonians would be able to teach them a butt-load about it... but of course, this would mean embracing ideologies of their former, favored, target of slavery... and the dunmer as a whole absolutely despise argonian culture... so very unlikely.

    If they did, though? I can see it benefiting them in that the dunmer would be able to learn how to become a much more chill culture, enlightened like the argonians, at peace with itself in most regards, though it would come at the cost of alienating them from the rest of Tamriel, just as the argonians are alienated. It could, however, open the doors to true peace between two former enemies, and spark the flames of an alliance that could protect both rather effectively from outside threats, especially with how the environments of both homelands are in of themselves fortresses to the outside world (morrowind joining blackmarsh now as a truly hazardous landscape, what with the vast amounts of ash coverage due to Red Mountain popping its top... not QUITE as dangerous as black marsh, but still dangerous).
    Edited by Raltin on December 8, 2020 7:54PM
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  • rpa
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    Sithis of course. As a bonus no worship is even required.

  • Luke_Flamesword
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    Most beneficial? Be Hlaalu and worship gold :)
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  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Mothman, praise be unto him!
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    Church of the Sweetroll!
  • Thevampirenight
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    The Tribunal (Vivec, Almelexia and Sotha Sil)
    Well here is the thing, the good daedra and the Tribunal play huge roles and have benefited them. But I voted for the Tribunal and here is why I did so.
    Even though they might not be the best of people might have murdered Neverar. Without them, the Daedra could have been much more a threat and Molag Bal's Invasion would have been much more serious then without it. Without Sothia Sil there would have been no Coldharbour compact. To limit how they Manifest on Nirn that is a big big deal. The Tribunal because of this are another defense for Nirn and without the Dragonfires are an important line of defense for Nirn. So they not only benefit the Dunmer everyone else too. Plus if a Daedric Prince were to fully manifest they could join together and do what the Avatar of Akatosh did in Tes 4. Like two of them could do that to Dagon for example.

    So its a mixed bag, they benefit the Dunmer but then I think it holds them back as well. In the end it ends up destroying Vivec City and them being revealed for the Frauds they were. They still ended up as saints though. So yeah they played a huge role in their culture and also protection. I don't think they are the best for their society and culture. But yeah without them their society and culture may have been destroyed in whatever scheme Molag Bal or Dagon had in store if not for the compact.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on December 9, 2020 12:42AM
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  • Ratzkifal
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    The most beneficial in ESO's time is the Tribunal. The most beneficial across the entire timeline is the three good Daedra simply because you don't want to get on their bad side but the Aedra hardly care if you don't worship them, they won't retaliate.
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  • ankeor
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    Azura only.
    Mephala and Mephala, even tho they helped dark elves a lot in the past, are far from being "good".
  • nukk3r
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    The 3 Good Daedra (Azura, Boethia, Mephala)
    Most beneficial? Be Hlaalu and worship gold :)

    It will surely help during the Red Year.
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    ankeor wrote: »
    Azura only.
    Mephala and Mephala, even tho they helped dark elves a lot in the past, are far from being "good".

    Azura is...the crazy partner. Like I get it she loves you and all but if you ever slight her even a little and she will cut you.
  • ArchMikem
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    The 3 Good Daedra (Azura, Boethia, Mephala)
    Narvuntien wrote: »
    ankeor wrote: »
    Azura only.
    Mephala and Mephala, even tho they helped dark elves a lot in the past, are far from being "good".

    Azura is...the crazy partner. Like I get it she loves you and all but if you ever slight her even a little and she will cut you.

    Betrayal cuts a lover's heart deep.
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  • Jaraal
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    Akulakhan is the only true Dunmer god.
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    Hinduism... no jk.

    Just Azura

    The other two are less then meh.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Akulakhan is the only true Dunmer god.

    Then its a little awkward that my Nerevarine cut up "his' heart and dumped him in a volcano, isn't it?
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    Isn’t discussing religion a violation of the tos?
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    linuxlady wrote: »
    Isn’t discussing religion a violation of the tos?

    Actually, the forum rules specifically forbid discussing "Real-world religion and politics."

    While I totally understand wanting to escape the complete mess that is real-world 2020 by jumping wholly into Tamriel, but I'm not sure that I'd want to live in Tamrielic Morrowind either. Regardless of whether I'd wind up worshipping the Three Good Daedra, the Aedra, or the Tribunal, its not the nicest place to be an n'wah, if you know what I mean. :smiley:
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    The Tribunal (Vivec, Almelexia and Sotha Sil)
    Mindcr0w wrote: »
    The Tribunal are liar liar pants on fire false gods, the daedra are dangerous enough to be more trouble than they are worth getting involved with, the Aedra...are just kind of lame.

    Better to achieve CHIM or zero sum trying.
    At least Vivec showed them the walking ways. It's probably good the Tribunal is gone, but the Dunmer had a good run under their watch. I'm not sure the Reclamations will be as benevolent.
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    The 3 Good Daedra (Azura, Boethia, Mephala)
    Most beneficial? Be Hlaalu and worship gold :)

    As someone who's main Character is Named Hlaalu and always joined House Hlaalu in original Morrowind, in the end, it did not exactly work out well for them :tongue:
  • Luke_Flamesword
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    Well, now in ESO we are in second era and Dunmers lives 200-300 years maximum, so they won't participate in Red Year :D
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