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Should ESO make an option to turn off Mystery Meat/Mudballs, etc

  • Guyle
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    Unless it is actually interfering with your ability to do something for what could be considered an excessive amount of time, who cares?
  • Sephyr
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    idk wrote: »
    Sephyr wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    The answer I would choose was not available.

    The best solution would be a time-out on a target from receiving another mudball. It should be obvious Zos would not give us the ability to completely opt-out of mudballs as it would make the moment obsolete and pointless.

    I have never seen the Mystery Meat be an issue. It requires the player to interact with it for anything to happen. Simply move on.

    Edit: Heck, I rarely get hit by the mudball outside of the jester event.

    You probably haven't gotten pranked with it then. I know quite a few people during every Jester's Festival will throw the mystery meat on interactables, including in dungeons like the pinion in WGT (it was even worse when they'd just cake it and you couldn't interact with the pinion at all). You're right that it requires the player to interact with it for anything to happen, but you can cause people to unintentionally click it on interactables. That isn't something that's new and it's been in the game for years. It happens.

    That being said, there's nothing wrong with the option.

    I would suggest I am not quick to interact with just anything that pops up on my screen. Especially when it clearly states it is Mystery Meat.

    I would also suggest running with a more mature group if they are going to try to wipe the group in a dungeon. BTW, it has been in the game since launch. Technically before launch. Ofc, the cake has only been in the game for the or four years.

    So first of all, you must run things pretty slow because when I want to get somewhere and do something - I have a limited time frame on what I can play. You have a subjective experience, just as I have mine -. Secondly, just because I have friends and guildies that prank me doesn't make them any less mature than you or myself just because they choose to partake in Jester festivities around those times. Just because I'm for an option doesn't necessarily mean I'm 'fed' up with their shenanigans, but I do understand it when we're also in the group finder and they're doing it to someone who's a rando that might also have a time-limit. Mara forbid I actually think about someone else's experience other than myself. Thirdly, I know how long Mystery Meat's been in the game? I don't know why/if you're trying to insinuate that I didn't know what it was or when it was added, but given how we had to explain a certain mechanic to you on another thread you should probably know that my forum date isn't my 'game join' date, my guy.
    Edited by Sephyr on November 27, 2020 9:02AM
  • davidtk
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    Other: No change

    Oh c'mon. it's just as annoying (maybe less) as duel invitations or crazy running with restoration staff or any of the AoE from every spell (really hate it) in town what interrupt your emotes or animations.

    So ingore it or just take it back to them :D
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  • AWinterWolf
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    davidtk wrote: »
    Other: No change

    Oh c'mon. it's just as annoying (maybe less) as duel invitations or crazy running with restoration staff or any of the AoE from every spell (really hate it) in town what interrupt your emotes or animations.

    So ingore it or just take it back to them :D

    You can auto decline duels.
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  • davidtk
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    davidtk wrote: »
    Other: No change

    Oh c'mon. it's just as annoying (maybe less) as duel invitations or crazy running with restoration staff or any of the AoE from every spell (really hate it) in town what interrupt your emotes or animations.

    So ingore it or just take it back to them :D

    You can auto decline duels.

    Yes, i know that and i have it turned on :)
    Really sorry for my english
  • spartaxoxo
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    As long as the toggle doesn't prevent you from being mudballed, just prevents interact message from appearing or your character reacting to it. Reason being is that there are achievements tied to hitting people with mudballs and pies, and your settings shouldn't interrupt anyone else's gameplay. So thr setting makes it so the color change happens but the player doesn't get stunned into an animation where they shake off the mud either.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on November 27, 2020 8:54AM
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  • rpa
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    No change. I can tolerate occasional mudball &cet while gathering if it throws bots off track or eases the pain of people who think they own a node at some spot.

    Edit: Of course, if you feel you are being griefed you should report player doing it.
    Edited by rpa on November 27, 2020 9:10AM
  • hexentb16_ESO
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    There needs to be a 3rd option that says that we don't want the option.

    Why? Being hit with a mudball is annoying...and thats why its funny.
  • Guyle
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    You guys can have a toggle for this, when I get a toggle that unsummons other players pets in cities
  • Daemons_Bane
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    Isn't mudballs the item that "interrupts" you.? If so, I would very much like a toggle.. that would stop people interrupting me, trying to annoy me enough that I leave the chest I am trying to open
  • mairwen85
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    other: no change.
  • SilverBride
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    Get rid of the interactions entirely
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    there are achievements tied to hitting people with mudballs and pies

    That's part of the problem right there. Physical "jokes" can be perceived as abuse and are often used by abusers to justify their actions. How many times have you heard someone say "It was just a joke!" after hurting someone else? Yes, I know your character can't be physically hurt, but this can trigger bad reactions in players who have been subjected to that irl.

    And in the game setting it's being used as harassment.
    Edited by SilverBride on November 27, 2020 4:10PM
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  • hafgood
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    3rd option: leave it as it is.

    Its no different to tbagging- if you don't like it ask the player to stop. If they don't report them for harassment.

    And yes players do get reported for tbagging and yes they do get warnings. A friend of mine tbags everyone in Cyrodiil both friend or foe and is on a final warning. So yes Zos do listen and do take action.
  • Pauls
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    Other: leave it as it is
  • PizzaCat82
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    hafgood wrote: »
    3rd option: leave it as it is.

    Its no different to tbagging- if you don't like it ask the player to stop. If they don't report them for harassment.

    And yes players do get reported for tbagging and yes they do get warnings. A friend of mine tbags everyone in Cyrodiil both friend or foe and is on a final warning. So yes Zos do listen and do take action.

    It'd be much easier and less work for EVERYONE involved to just have an option to turn it off.
  • Minyassa
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    This is something that's overdue. LOTRO did it years ago and it went a long way toward stopping people from putting in harassment reports and grousing about it in the forums. People who like to use involuntary emotes still get to use them on other people who like to use them, so nobody loses the ability to play with toys. People who don't want to be affected by them can't use them while toggled off, so that's fair, no one-sided attacks. And people who have had them used on them as a form of PvP that actually gave someone an edge in grabbing resource nodes before they shook off the effect of the emote no longer have to worry about someone doing that to them. Literally the only people that would have anything to complain about with this are the ones who INTEND to use it as harassment or cheating.
  • Minyassa
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    As long as the toggle doesn't prevent you from being mudballed, just prevents interact message from appearing or your character reacting to it. Reason being is that there are achievements tied to hitting people with mudballs and pies, and your settings shouldn't interrupt anyone else's gameplay. So thr setting makes it so the color change happens but the player doesn't get stunned into an animation where they shake off the mud either.

    LOTRO players have no trouble getting the emote-related stuff-throwing achievements with a toggle available. There are always enough people who want to use the emotes and are therefore able to be affected by them.
  • Tremuto
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    Where's the option to give players more things to throw at others?
  • SilverBride
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    Get rid of the interactions entirely
    There shouldn't be any emotes or other such actions that physically affect another player's character in the first place, let alone achievements that require them. Especially without the affected player's permission.

    I've already been harassed by having mud thrown at me when unlocking safeboxes. And I had (past tense) a friend who was constantly throwing things at me to the point that I hated being around him.

    Get rid of these, or at the very least allow players to toggle it off.
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  • erio
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    No Change.
  • spartaxoxo
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    Minyassa wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    As long as the toggle doesn't prevent you from being mudballed, just prevents interact message from appearing or your character reacting to it. Reason being is that there are achievements tied to hitting people with mudballs and pies, and your settings shouldn't interrupt anyone else's gameplay. So thr setting makes it so the color change happens but the player doesn't get stunned into an animation where they shake off the mud either.

    LOTRO players have no trouble getting the emote-related stuff-throwing achievements with a toggle available. There are always enough people who want to use the emotes and are therefore able to be affected by them.

    In PVP the pie achievement would probably be impossible unless they made it so the toggle did not interfere. Your character changing color for a second has no impact on gameplay and should be a fair compromise.
  • renne
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    Warden bears and sorc birds, dogs and monkeys are WAY more of an inconvenience than someone throwing a mudball or you clicking on mystery meat. At least you can get around them.
  • scorpius2k1
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    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    Now depending on where you are, you may not have to deal with this menace. But its a blight on our beautiful cities, rotton meat in front of every daily turn in, and quest giver, etc. Its a low-key form of harassment, and after repeated appeals to stop, the situation has only gotten worse.

    They should also turn off all effects that players spam all over the place on my and others toons without us consenting. Something should also be done about those stinking healers and tanks using their skills to put unwanted visual effects on me while I am at the enclave for no good reason. We should also disallow players who buy mounts on the crown store and sit around showing them off too -- they should be invisible unless I want to see them. Then on top of that, some random person throws poopy looking mud balls at me, destroying my newly dyed outfit I put together. Blasphemy! 💩

    If anything offends and annoys me, it should all be taken away or have an option to toggle.

    /s :trollface:

    I get the annoyance 100%. It's happened to all of us... but seriously are we as gamers at a point now where this is really that big of an "issue" ? If something like a digital mudball altering the color of your toons pixels is truly that upsetting, idk what the solution is. It's an online multiplayer game, so change something like this and players will find something else to compensate. It's a moot point really, and personally, I doubt developers would end up using time on such petty little things as any sort of priority -- especially with the current rough state of ESO.

    At the end of the day, if someone is ACTUALLY griefing (whether it's mudballs or somethinge else), then report them with evidence of it happening. After that, put them on ignore and take the matter into your own hands and just port out somewhere else. The likelihood of them knowing where you went to is slim-to-none and they can't do anything else to you. Simple. Personally, I don't care how many times I get mudballed, it just makes me laugh (as it was intended to do), especially the resulting player animations and sounds coming from my toon. :D

    It's a video game.

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  • PizzaCat82
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    Now depending on where you are, you may not have to deal with this menace. But its a blight on our beautiful cities, rotton meat in front of every daily turn in, and quest giver, etc. Its a low-key form of harassment, and after repeated appeals to stop, the situation has only gotten worse.

    They should also turn off all effects that players spam all over the place on my and others toons without us consenting. Something should also be done about those stinking healers and tanks using their skills to put unwanted visual effects on me while I am at the enclave for no good reason. We should also disallow players who buy mounts on the crown store and sit around showing them off too -- they should be invisible unless I want to see them. Then on top of that, some random person throws poopy looking mud balls at me, destroying my newly dyed outfit I put together. Blasphemy! 💩

    If anything offends and annoys me, it should all be taken away or have an option to toggle.

    /s :trollface:

    I get the annoyance 100%. It's happened to all of us... but seriously are we as gamers at a point now where this is really that big of an "issue" ? If something like a digital mudball altering the color of your toons pixels is truly that upsetting, idk what the solution is. It's an online multiplayer game, so change something like this and players will find something else to compensate. It's a moot point really, and personally, I doubt developers would end up using time on such petty little things as any sort of priority -- especially with the current rough state of ESO.

    At the end of the day, if someone is ACTUALLY griefing (whether it's mudballs or somethinge else), then report them with evidence of it happening. After that, put them on ignore and take the matter into your own hands and just port out somewhere else. The likelihood of them knowing where you went to is slim-to-none and they can't do anything else to you. Simple. Personally, I don't care how many times I get mudballed, it just makes me laugh (as it was intended to do), especially the resulting player animations and sounds coming from my toon. :D

    It's a video game.

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    I love how people think reporting does anything, much less gets the behavior to stop.

    Everyone would save time with a toggle and it would actually work.
  • Thechuckage
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    Options that dont harm anyone else are always good. Why? Because they are optional.
  • Minyassa
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Minyassa wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    As long as the toggle doesn't prevent you from being mudballed, just prevents interact message from appearing or your character reacting to it. Reason being is that there are achievements tied to hitting people with mudballs and pies, and your settings shouldn't interrupt anyone else's gameplay. So thr setting makes it so the color change happens but the player doesn't get stunned into an animation where they shake off the mud either.

    LOTRO players have no trouble getting the emote-related stuff-throwing achievements with a toggle available. There are always enough people who want to use the emotes and are therefore able to be affected by them.

    In PVP the pie achievement would probably be impossible unless they made it so the toggle did not interfere. Your character changing color for a second has no impact on gameplay and should be a fair compromise.

    Why are you assuming everyone would run with the toggle set to keep it from working, if all it does is change color and nobody's using mudballs in PvP to gain an advantage? Seems to me that PvP would be the perfect place to leave the toggle off, nobody is using suspicious meat to decimate the enemy. I think you are overestimating the number of people who would use such a toggle, and when. The main purpose of it is to prevent griefing or cheating, which is mainly a risk of overland PvE situations.

    When I got my Empieror achievement it was through mutually having fun getting it, and you're right, all it does is change your color. So nobody would have any reason to block it, especially during that festival. But the second you step out of Cyrodiil you're subject to people using mudball to slow you down on the way to a treasure chest, so screw that noise. Again...the ONLY people this would negatively impact are the people who have an intent to harass or cheat. People who want to be playful will always be able to find others interested in the same thing.
  • SilverBride
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    Get rid of the interactions entirely
    It's a video game.

    That excuse is used way too often by players who take pleasure in annoying others. Yes, it's a video game, and one I'd like to enjoy without some stranger using me as a target. You like to throw things that much? Go throw at your friends. But don't be surprised if they get fed up with it, too.
    Edited by SilverBride on November 28, 2020 2:16AM
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  • Auberon1983
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    Give players an option to Turn off PVE interactions with other players (No picking up or even seeing meats, or getting hit with balls, etc)
    I don't mind being "mudded" at all, I actually got "christened" last week in Solitude. Happened a couple times since then. However, just because I don't give a hoot doesn't mean others don't. For the record, I don't have that emote, nor do I want it. A simple toggle could be an easy fix, same as auto-declining duels. Also, I have no idea what the "Mystery Meat" thing is, I've never even heard of it until this thread, prior to Mystery Meat meant canned Spam.
  • Vayln_Ninetails
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    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    Now depending on where you are, you may not have to deal with this menace. But its a blight on our beautiful cities, rotton meat in front of every daily turn in, and quest giver, etc. Its a low-key form of harassment, and after repeated appeals to stop, the situation has only gotten worse.

    How convenient you left off the option to say no. Lol. Seems like a biased poll? (Memeing mainly, no worries. I know not being able to edit sucks.)


    Also the correct answer is no.
    Edited by Vayln_Ninetails on November 28, 2020 2:51AM
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