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All my Truly Superb armor/jewelry glyphs add LESS than the traits on my armor-pls explain to a noob

OmenRIP
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Hi

I’ve been searching for days trying to understand how glyphs affect embedded armor traits (I think I got the terminology right; I know all about set bonuses). I was so happy that I looted at least 20 Truly Superb glyphs that I took the time to examine them closely and apply to my armor and jewelry. To be more clear, this is what I’m wearing now:

Head -Hat of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
Shoulders - Epaulets of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
Waist - Sash of Necropotence (Green)
Hands - Gloves of Necropotence (Green)
Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
Feet - Shoes of Necropotence (Blue)
Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)
Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (Blue)

Honestly, I was very disappointed that all my glyphs added less than the embedded trait of all my armor! Now, I was single focused to increase my magicka pool (I run 2 pets), but I was gobsmacked that I couldn’t.

Please help this CP358 magsorc 2 pet solo PvE-only total noob with enchantments on armor/jewelry.

Thanks in advance for any comments!

Edited by OmenRIP on October 28, 2020 11:54AM

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  • tmbrinks
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    Hi

    I’ve been searching for days trying to understand how glyphs affect embedded armor traits. I was so happy that I looted at least 20 Truly Superb glyphs that I took the time to examine them closely and apply to my armor and jewelry. To be more clear, this is what I’m wearing now:

    Head -Hat of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Shoulders - Epaulets of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Waist - Sash of Necropotence (Green)
    Hands - Gloves of Necropotence (Green)
    Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Feet - Shoes of Necropotence (Blue)
    Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (Blue)

    Honestly, I was very disappointed that all my glyphs added less than the embedded trait of all my armor! Now, I was single focused to increase my magicka pool (I run 2 pets), but I was gobsmacked that I couldn’t.

    Please help this CP358 magsorc 2 pet solo PvE-only total noob with enchantments on armor/jewelry.

    Thanks in advance for any comments!

    If they're the looted glyphs... they are only of white or green quality (very rarely blue or purple)

    The glyphs that come standard with gear are equivalent to the level of the gear itself, and will upgrade when you upgrade the gear.

    You can make higher quality glyphs at an enchanting station, and those may improve the stats on your gear (unless you upgrade the gear to gold quality)
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  • Muttsmutt
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    must be purple or gold to give more. you can buy in guild stores. are cheap.
    PC-EU // UNDEAD
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  • OmenRIP
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    Thanks for both of your answers. Some of my glyphs are gold, but most are white. I didn’t realize that there were several levels of a truly superb glyph. I’ll check the merchants for the appropriate glyphs.

    Again, thank you both for the quick answers!
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  • markulrich1966
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    if you look at your armor pieces, you will notice that the health or magicka they have will depend on the type.

    approx 800-900 (high): chest, legs, head

    Approx 350 (low): hands, feet, shoulders, waist

    So you usually will use gold glyphs on the 3 high value parts, and purple on the 4 low value.
    There would be almost no increase from purple to gold glyphs on the low value parts.
    Even on the high value parts, you will just gain 300 overall using gold glyphs instead of purple.
    Edited by markulrich1966 on October 28, 2020 12:14PM
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  • VaranisArano
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    Similar to the armor trait value, expect the head, chest, and leg pieces to give the full value of the enchantment. Smaller pieces of armor give less.
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  • markulrich1966
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    Focus on gold glyphs for weapons and jewelry.

    To gold out items (talking about the material, not the glyphs), focus on your weapons, then later the armor. Armor mainly if it has the divines trait, that increases the effect of your mundus stone. Golding out will increase that effect by several percent.

    Golding out jewelry using platinum platings is NOT recommended. The effect can be barely noticed, and 4 platings to upgrade a ring cost ~350.000 gold. So just use gold glyphs, not expensive, on purple jewelry.
    Alternatively buy gold jewelry from the golden vendor in cyrodiil for Alliance points, or from guildstores for gold. A golden mothers sorrow ring costs 80.000-120.000 gold. Sold by people who bought them with Alliance points. Less popular sets are cheaper, I have seen gold rings of "non- best in slot" sets like Battlefield Acrobat for as low as 26.000 on xbox.

    Another way to increase the value of jewelry glyphs is to transmute the jewelry to infused.
    This can increase the damage of a spell damage glyph from 174 to 255.
    Edited by markulrich1966 on October 28, 2020 12:31PM
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  • Noggin_the_Nog
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    Hi
    Head -Hat of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Shoulders - Epaulets of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Waist - Sash of Necropotence (Green)
    Hands - Gloves of Necropotence (Green)
    Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Feet - Shoes of Necropotence (Blue)
    Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (Blue)
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    OmenRIP wrote: »
    The glyphs that come standard with gear are equivalent to the level of the gear itself, and will upgrade when you upgrade the gear.

    Hello

    Before looking at Glyphs, I'd improve your mix of Green, Blue and Purple gear. Try to get all to the same colour - ie Purple. You will need to farm a second purple Ring of Necropotence, but all the others you can improve at a crafting station.

    Then buy or craft one purple truly superb glyph of magica which you can then check (without applying it), if it improves any of your gear stats. You will then know how many glyphs you need.

    I'm wondering what you are using for weapons as a third set? Normally your head and shoulders would be a 'monster set' - two items, with Mother's Sorrow and Necropotence as two five piece sets. Try to ensure all three sets are active when you weapon swop.

    Have fun out there and stay safe.
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  • markulrich1966
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    another point:

    I am not certain, if you are aware of it, as you did not mention traits.

    Before you start to upgrade your armor, make sure that it all has the divines trait.
    It increases the mundus stone effect (for your setup the thief and later the shadow recommended).
    You can find mundus stones all over tamriel, it is easier if you are in a guild, as guildhalls usually have a copy of each stone all in one place together.

    Thief increases chance to do crit damage, shadow increases the damage of critical attacks and should be used once you reach a crit chance of 60-70%.

    It is not that easy to reach a crit chance of 70%, so you need to support it by using all armor pieces in divines.
    Edited by markulrich1966 on October 28, 2020 12:58PM
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  • OmenRIP
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    @tmbrinks

    Thanks for the great post! I was not sure what to upgrade next. You’ve made that very clear! I’m using 2 MS staffs-inferno gold and lightning purple. So that gives me 7 MS pieces. I know that I need to swap out my head and shoulders for a monster set, but most I’ve seen suggested is from group play. Since I play exclusively solo PvE with pets, I can solo some dungeons, all delves, and a few overland bosses. But I really need some monster set that I can get myself that would ideally add to magicka, etc for my build.

    Unfortunately I’ve been spending most of the time leveling; that’s a habit from years of playing MMORGs. So my enchanting skills are at 1 😄. I’m now into the psijic grind at level 4. Maybe I need to convince myself to stop the leveling thing and concentrate on other skills that will definitely matter to me at a higher level.

    Again, thanks for your insights.
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  • markulrich1966
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    @tmbrinks

    Thanks for the great post! I was not sure what to upgrade next. You’ve made that very clear! I’m using 2 MS staffs-inferno gold and lightning purple. So that gives me 7 MS pieces. I know that I need to swap out my head and shoulders for a monster set, but most I’ve seen suggested is from group play. Since I play exclusively solo PvE with pets, I can solo some dungeons, all delves, and a few overland bosses. But I really need some monster set that I can get myself that would ideally add to magicka, etc for my build.

    Unfortunately I’ve been spending most of the time leveling; that’s a habit from years of playing MMORGs. So my enchanting skills are at 1 😄. I’m now into the psijic grind at level 4. Maybe I need to convince myself to stop the leveling thing and concentrate on other skills that will definitely matter to me at a higher level.

    Again, thanks for your insights.

    as long as you have no monster set, you can use 2 pieces of a matching 5 piece set.
    For example 2 pieces of queens elegance add 129 spell damage.
    Not that much, but would be at least a small boost compared to 7 mothers sorrow.
    If you can craft it, you also can craft two pieces of the Innate Axiom set, with the same effect. Requires to know only 2 traits to craft it.
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  • Noggin_the_Nog
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    Hi
    I know all about set bonuses

    Hello

    Do you know about the best/ideal traits on gear?

    As a general 'Rule of Thumb', my personal choice would be -

    Head -Infused - monster set
    Shoulders - divines - monster set
    Chest - infused - Mother’s Sorrow
    Waist -divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Hands - divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Legs - infused - Mother’s Sorrow
    Feet - divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Neck - Necklace of Necropotence
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence
    Weapon 1 - Necropotence
    Weapon 2 - Necropotence

    More experienced players will advise a variety of weapon traits. Most popular will be Precise, Sharpened and Infused. Can be Destro/Restro or even dual wield swords.

    For farming sets I've had good results from Public Dungeons - one in each zone.

    Hope this helps
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  • zaria
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    Focus on gold glyphs for weapons and jewelry.

    To gold out items (talking about the material, not the glyphs), focus on your weapons, then later the armor. Armor mainly if it has the divines trait, that increases the effect of your mundus stone. Golding out will increase that effect by several percent.

    Golding out jewelry using platinum platings is NOT recommended. The effect can be barely noticed, and 4 platings to upgrade a ring cost ~350.000 gold. So just use gold glyphs, not expensive, on purple jewelry.
    Alternatively buy gold jewelry from the golden vendor in cyrodiil for Alliance points, or from guildstores for gold. A golden mothers sorrow ring costs 80.000-120.000 gold. Sold by people who bought them with Alliance points. Less popular sets are cheaper, I have seen gold rings of "non- best in slot" sets like Battlefield Acrobat for as low as 26.000 on xbox.

    Another way to increase the value of jewelry glyphs is to transmute the jewelry to infused.
    This can increase the damage of a spell damage glyph from 174 to 255.

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I admit, I know less about the effects of jewelry than armor. At that’s saying something 🙂. I do have 4000 Alliance points, but I’m sure that won’t get me very far.

    I applied gold increased damage glyph (that I bought) to my gold MS inferno staff and a (I think) one of my shock glyphs to my purple quest MS staff. I now realize that I really shouldnt have put that white shock glyph on my lightning staff, but I’m assuming that I can buy a gold shock glyph I can just re-enchant it.

    My enchanting skills are at 1, so it would take me a lot of time to get them up to snuff. I do have what seemed like hundreds of runes from the runestones, since I’ve collected them from the start of my playing. But I never knew what they were for until last week when I finally looked up their use. 😂. Just call me super noob and I certainly won’t be insulted.

    Thanks again.

    yes you can replace a white glyph with a better one once you have it.

    Quickest way to level up enchanting:
    find someone who will craft high level glyphs for you, then deconstruct those.
    I think I used approx 200 purple cp160 glyphs made by a friend to level up enchanting from 10 to 50 in half an hour.
    Gave him 200 rekuta and a mix of oko (health), makko(magicka) and deni (stamina) and repora (cp160) or rekuta (cp150), do not remember the latter. Best take repora if you have enough.

    I am not 100% certain if it were 200 or even less like 60.
    This, easiest if he stand next to you and hand you glyphs, but can also mail.
    Note that starting with cp 160 purple is a waste as its limited how much you learn on each deconstruct, purple will speed up the 40-50 leveling however.

    Edited by zaria on October 28, 2020 1:38PM
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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  • EvilAutoTech
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    I would not recommend seeking expensive Necropotence weapons because you already have expensive MS weapons bound to you.

    I agree that you should swap your head and shoulder pieces to a different set. I would recommend armor of the trainee until you are ready to give group content a try. Armor of the trainee gives a one piece bonus of over 1400 health to go along with the more than 1400 magicka.

    If it turns out you like running dungeons, there are some great sets in the dlc dungeons, but remember that you need to run vet. Easier alternatives are Ilambris (vCoH 1) and Maw of the Infernal (vBC II). Since you mainly run solo, maw is probably the better choice but Ilambris is easier to get.
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  • Noggin_the_Nog
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    @tmbrinks

    Thanks for the great post! I was not sure what to upgrade next. You’ve made that very clear! I’m using 2 MS staffs-inferno gold and lightning purple. So that gives me 7 MS pieces. I know that I need to swap out my head and shoulders for a monster set, but most I’ve seen suggested is from group play. Since I play exclusively solo PvE with pets, I can solo some dungeons, all delves, and a few overland bosses. But I really need some monster set that I can get myself that would ideally add to magicka, etc for my build. .

    It's a good idea to have a plan for your sets, as you can farm particular gear from zones/areas.
    For example -
    Delve bosses drop a waist or foot..
    Overland bosses drop a head, chest, leg, or weapon.
    Public dungeon bosses drop a shoulder, hand or weapon.
    Chests at Dark Anchors drop a jewelry set piece.
    Treasure chests have a chance to grant any set piece that can drop in that zone

    It looks like the easiest plan would be -

    Head -Hat of the Trainee - purple. Maybe a Helm for more protection?
    Epaulets of the Trainee - purple.

    Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow - Purple/infused
    Waist - Sash of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Green to Purple)
    Hands - Gloves of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Green to Purple)
    Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow - Purple/infused
    Feet - Shoes of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Blue to Purple)

    Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (you really need to farm a Purple one to replace your Blue)

    Weapon 1 - Mother’s Sorrow Inferno
    Weapon 2 - Mother’s Sorrow lightening

    I'm showing the ideal traits, but you can use whatever you have.

    This is a flexible list so that if you later want to farm Maw of the Infernal (vBC II) to replace Trainee. Maw of the Infernal does appear sometimes at the Golden Vendor. Maybe head or shoulders - 200,000 AP or gold. Check Benevolent Bowd on Saturdays.

    Khenarthi's Roost is a good zone to farm Armor of the Trainee. Over 70 treasure chest around the coast. Or you can farm easy delves in Auridon for a waist or foot piece of Queen's Elegance. Gives you more spell damage but a less flexible distribution long term.

    Ring of Necropotence in purple does drop regularly - just keep farming the dolmens.

    Personally I would not 'gold' any of your armour. Just keep them at Purple with Purple enchants. There is benefit from golding weapons.

    If you want anything crafted send a message.

    Have fun and stay safe.

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  • Noggin_the_Nog
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    [/quote]
    . Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to open a treasure lock with a pick. I either run out of time or break the pick. Maybe because I’m using. PS4, but I’ve tried dozens of time and never once dis I get more than 1 tumbler to lock. I just end up trying to force the lock hundreds of times until I get it open (or not). That’s another skill I have to learn.
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    Lockpicking is a skill to learn - takes practice.

    Watch the tumblers for audio and visual clues - as you press down one of the five tumblers it will start to wobble. That's the time to release - and release quickly. Even after several years lockpicking, occasionally Master Chests can still defeat me - on the first attempt.

    You can level Ledgermain to improve the chances of forcing locks. Quick level via stealing apples in Craglorn and fencing them, but to be honest even with my alts at level 10 I still manually use the tumblers.

    After 3 or 4 circuits of Khenarthi's Roost you will learn where the treasure chests are and be able to lockpick in your sleep.

    Have fun and take care.
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  • markulrich1966
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    concerning your glyph questions, I think you are not certain which is best.
    It is not that easy to answer, as it depends on many factors.

    The weapon damage glyph you use is a good choice, as it also increases spell damage (spell damage is for magicka builds, weapon damage for stamina builds).

    For the second staff, you will use a different glyph, as glyphs have a cooldown.
    So after you attack with staff 1, you ideally would switch to the backbar to staff 2, so you can use the second, different glyph while the first one cools dow.
    This is one among many other reasons why "rotations" play an important role in ESO, meaning you cycle through skills, light attacks and front/back bar during an attack.

    So you should use an elemental glyph on the other staff.
    Shock adds an AOE damage, damaging other enemies nearby.
    Fire has highest single target damage
    Ice is mainly for tanks

    I personally prefer shock, as I often need AOE damage (daily delve quickruns, Worldbosses with mobs).
    Very advanced players often have different types of staffs in inventory, so that they can switch depending on the type of boss they will encounter during longer runs like trials.


    The difference of 345 and 348 damage might mean, that one is a cp150 glyph, the other a cp160 glyph.
    As you have around 2500 spell damage, you will not notice the difference, you can upgrade it much later at cp810 once you have enough gold or enchanting skills as last slight final optimization.
    Edited by markulrich1966 on October 29, 2020 2:08PM
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  • Noggin_the_Nog
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    OmenRIP wrote: »

    [quote="Noggin_the_Nog;c-7001599"
    It's a good idea to have a plan for your sets, as you can farm particular gear from zones/areas.
    For example -
    Delve bosses drop a waist or foot..
    Overland bosses drop a head, chest, leg, or weapon.
    Public dungeon bosses drop a shoulder, hand or weapon.
    Chests at Dark Anchors drop a jewelry set piece.
    Treasure chests have a chance to grant any set piece that can drop in that zone

    Thank you for the offer of crafting. I’m on PS4/NA so, I’m assuming you are on the PC server ( at least that’s the most popular). I’ve been using all the Truly Superb white/blue glyphs and deconstructed them; I’m now at level 20 now. I also got a hireling to pick up runes for me (I have 31 skill points just laying around doing nothing). I’m also thinking about going into clothing to be able to craft my own armor, but from what I’ve read armor construction is much harder than glyph creation.

    But I’m not here to race through the game. But I do need enough dungeon runs to find my items. [/quote]


    Hello again

    I'm glad you have got all your pieces together.

    CP160 is the maximum level at the moment, so what you have will do, but you may wish to farm for gear in the 'ideal' trait. So, say, if you have a Sash of Mother's Sorrow in well fitted, just run through the delves in Deshaan until a divines sash drops. White glyphs will drop regularly as well - great for decon/levelling enchanting, and of course lots of XP.

    To add a bit of variety run through the public dungeons in Deshaan and Rivenspire, and don't forget the dolmens. Even if I'm materials farming or just collecting surveys I find I can never ignore a dolmen. It's all lots of fun.

    If you do not need the gold, decon as much gear as you can to level your crafting skills to 50, and get researching ASAP. Do it all on your main character. Using some of your skill points in crafting will help with researching. All my alts have Hirelings skill set at 2/3. I started a new account last November and it took about nine months to get my main alt there to reach Grand Master Crafter. Jewelry was the slowest followed by Enchanting - not buying stuff to decon/just using stuff I found whilst levelling. All crafting is straightforward, Alchemy takes a while to learn the reagent traits; so start on all seven crafts. Doing the daily crafting writs after crafting certification will help with XP/crafting XP/ gold and materials. The minimum I do daily on ESO is completing crating writs on all my CP alts.

    Crafting can really soak up your skill points. Around 20 points per trade, but easy to get - I've a level 42 alt (not CP) who's crafting level 50 in all seven trades, with all her main trade skills at 10/10, Hirelings at 2/3, and research finished. I normally do not bother with Motif knowledge unless it is for a Grand Master Crafter title. Only have 3 GMCs - one per account/server.

    You do not 'need' crafting at the moment - you can quite happily farm for your gear - but it will help in the long term particularly with gear improvement (green to blue to purple etc). Just take your time and enjoy the learning experience.

    The new Item Set Collection system will help you in the long term - it drops for PS4 I think in a week?

    Sadly I'm on PC, so unfortunately I can not help - I can not even use a controller!

    Have fun and stay safe.

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  • Noggin_the_Nog
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    I might be able to upgrade my 2 MS pieces myself, but the Necropotence ones I’ll probably have to buy (if they’re ever available). I think I marked the correct upgrades with ***.

    Hello
    Did you notice another thread in the forums - Pet Build Idea - Gearsets. One quote from it:
    'max mag and spell damage as a combined thing. it doesn't matter which you get, however in general spell damage will be slightly better. I think 10.5 max mag == 1 spell damage.
    Then you want at least 55% crit chance buffed, though I prefer 60% with the Shadow mundus. If you don't have that level of crit, don't use Shadow, use Thief instead.'

    The sets you are using - Mother's Sorrow and Necropotence - are very good, but I see you still have have 7 x MS? Personally I feel that's a waste - cut it down to 5 pieces. For long term flexibility replace the head and shoulders you have with either Armour of the Trainee or Queen's Elegance. Trainee is easy to farm in Khenarthi's Roost from over 70 treasure chest around the coast. Or you can farm World Bosses and the Public Dungeon in Auridon for a Shoulder and Head piece of Queen's Elegance.
    Armor of the Trainee
    1 item: Adds 33-1454 Maximum Health
    2 items: Adds 33-1454 Maximum Magicka
    Queen's Elegance
    2 items: Adds 3-129 Spell Damage
    If you have more than one alt make sure you farm with one that is CP level - gear drops according to your alts level.

    Also watch what the Golden Vendor has for sale each week. It may take a while to find appropriate Head and Shoulder of a monster set - but worth the wait.

    I personally would not buy gear at the moment. On PC set item costs are increasing alot due to the new Item Set Collection system, and by farming the gear yourself you will get gear to decon/learn traits/extra gold/more XP to increase your CP level.

    *** Head - Hat of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-Invigorating
    ** Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-well-fitted
    *** Shoulders - Epaulets of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-divines
    Waist - Sash of Necropotence (Purple)-divines
    * Hands - Gloves of Necropotence (Purple)-impenetrable
    Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-infused
    * Feet - Shoes of Necropotence (Purple)-well-fitted
    Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-arcane
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)-arcane
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)-arcane
    Weapon 1 - Inferno Staff of Mother's Sorrow
    Weapon 2 - Lightning Staff of Mother's Sorrow

    So I would suggest a plan with:
    *** Replace with Armour of the Trainee or Queen's Elegance
    ** Farm for Infused or divines
    * Farm for divines

    I sat in the Forgotten Crypts in Deshaan during the Witches event for several hours on my second account characters just at the group boss location. With my kitchen timer set at 3 mins, killed the 3 bosses there, and collected some good Mother's Sorrow pieces. Also 5 chests nearby. Only left when my bag was full - really miss ESO+ on that account.

    Hope this helps, although others may have different suggestions.

    Have fun out there.
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  • Noggin_the_Nog
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    Investing in the Lockpicking passives helps out big time. With maxed out passives all I do is force the lock instead of sitting there fiddling with it. To level the Legerdemain line all you need to do is steal and fence things. Another tip is to turn off vibration on your controller. It actually distracted me while I was lockpicking. I failed with it on more often than I did with it off.

    Last year I actively leveled Legerdemain on a new thief alt. With four skill points in Locksmith I could force locks quickly, but it only gives a 70% chance at max level.

    Most of my CP level alts are at Legerdemain rank 20 but I do not bother with Locksmith and forcing locks - I just do it manually.

    Coming from Skyrim I disliked the ESO lockpicking system when I started out. But Lockpicking in ESO is a skill to learn - takes practice.

    Watch the tumblers for audio and visual clues - as you press down one of the five tumblers it will start to wobble and stop going down. That's the time to release pressure on the tumbler - and release quickly. Even after several years lockpicking, occasionally Master Chests (less time allowed for lockpicking) can still defeat me - on the first attempt.

    Just practice - it will come.
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  • cynicalbutterfly
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    50 individual items total. Would be nice if it was stacks instead. Sucks but you can gradually increase that limit as you level the skill line up.

    And the quest to kill an innocent is for the Dark Brotherhood. In order to get Blade of Woe, you'll need to finish the first step. Rest of the quest line is basically fighting corrupt officials. Anymore killing innocents is purely optional.
    Edited by cynicalbutterfly on November 10, 2020 5:12PM
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  • OmenRIP
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    Focus on gold glyphs for weapons and jewelry.

    To gold out items (talking about the material, not the glyphs), focus on your weapons, then later the armor. Armor mainly if it has the divines trait, that increases the effect of your mundus stone. Golding out will increase that effect by several percent.

    Golding out jewelry using platinum platings is NOT recommended. The effect can be barely noticed, and 4 platings to upgrade a ring cost ~350.000 gold. So just use gold glyphs, not expensive, on purple jewelry.
    Alternatively buy gold jewelry from the golden vendor in cyrodiil for Alliance points, or from guildstores for gold. A golden mothers sorrow ring costs 80.000-120.000 gold. Sold by people who bought them with Alliance points. Less popular sets are cheaper, I have seen gold rings of "non- best in slot" sets like Battlefield Acrobat for as low as 26.000 on xbox.

    Another way to increase the value of jewelry glyphs is to transmute the jewelry to infused.
    This can increase the damage of a spell damage glyph from 174 to 255.

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I admit, I know less about the effects of jewelry than armor. At that’s saying something 🙂. I do have 4000 Alliance points, but I’m sure that won’t get me very far.

    I applied gold increased damage glyph (that I bought) to my gold MS inferno staff and a (I think) one of my shock glyphs to my purple quest MS staff. I now realize that I really shouldnt have put that white shock glyph on my lightning staff, but I’m assuming that I can buy a gold shock glyph I can just re-enchant it.

    My enchanting skills are at 1, so it would take me a lot of time to get them up to snuff. I do have what seemed like hundreds of runes from the runestones, since I’ve collected them from the start of my playing. But I never knew what they were for until last week when I finally looked up their use. 😂. Just call me super noob and I certainly won’t be insulted.

    Thanks again.

    Edited by OmenRIP on October 28, 2020 1:15PM
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    Focus on gold glyphs for weapons and jewelry.

    To gold out items (talking about the material, not the glyphs), focus on your weapons, then later the armor. Armor mainly if it has the divines trait, that increases the effect of your mundus stone. Golding out will increase that effect by several percent.

    Golding out jewelry using platinum platings is NOT recommended. The effect can be barely noticed, and 4 platings to upgrade a ring cost ~350.000 gold. So just use gold glyphs, not expensive, on purple jewelry.
    Alternatively buy gold jewelry from the golden vendor in cyrodiil for Alliance points, or from guildstores for gold. A golden mothers sorrow ring costs 80.000-120.000 gold. Sold by people who bought them with Alliance points. Less popular sets are cheaper, I have seen gold rings of "non- best in slot" sets like Battlefield Acrobat for as low as 26.000 on xbox.

    Another way to increase the value of jewelry glyphs is to transmute the jewelry to infused.
    This can increase the damage of a spell damage glyph from 174 to 255.

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I admit, I know less about the effects of jewelry than armor. At that’s saying something 🙂. I do have 4000 Alliance points, but I’m sure that won’t get me very far.

    I applied gold increased damage glyph (that I bought) to my gold MS inferno staff and a (I think) one of my shock glyphs to my purple quest MS staff. I now realize that I really shouldnt have put that white shock glyph on my lightning staff, but I’m assuming that I can buy a gold shock glyph I can just re-enchant it.

    My enchanting skills are at 1, so it would take me a lot of time to get them up to snuff. I do have what seemed like hundreds of runes from the runestones, since I’ve collected them from the start of my playing. But I never knew what they were for until last week when I finally looked up their use. 😂. Just call me super noob and I certainly won’t be insulted.

    Thanks again.

    yes you can replace a white glyph with a better one once you have it.

    Quickest way to level up enchanting:
    find someone who will craft high level glyphs for you, then deconstruct those.
    I think I used approx 200 purple cp160 glyphs made by a friend to level up enchanting from 10 to 50 in half an hour.
    Gave him 200 rekuta and a mix of oko (health), makko(magicka) and deni (stamina) and repora (cp160) or rekuta (cp150), do not remember the latter. Best take repora if you have enough.

    I am not 100% certain if it were 200 or even less like 60.
    Edited by markulrich1966 on October 28, 2020 1:28PM
  • OmenRIP
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    if you look at your armor pieces, you will notice that the health or magicka they have will depend on the type.

    approx 800-900 (high): chest, legs, head

    Approx 350 (low): hands, feet, shoulders, waist

    So you usually will use gold glyphs on the 3 high value parts, and purple on the 4 low value.
    There would be almost no increase from purple to gold glyphs on the low value parts.
    Even on the high value parts, you will just gain 300 overall using gold glyphs instead of purple.

    Thank you for explaining in clear terms where to place my glyphs. I need to acquire gold/purple glyphs, which I have a couple of gold ones I think (the icon is gold but the writing is white) but they don’t add to my armor. The rest are white and a couple have blue writing. Actually I first thought that the white was platinum which is worth much more in the real economy. That’s why I couldn’t understand why they didn’t increase my stats. You’ve made that very clear to me.

    Thanks again.

  • OmenRIP
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    Hello

    Do you know about the best/ideal traits on gear?

    As a general 'Rule of Thumb', my personal choice would be -

    Head -Infused - monster set
    Shoulders - divines - monster set
    Chest - infused - Mother’s Sorrow
    Waist -divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Hands - divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Legs - infused - Mother’s Sorrow
    Feet - divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Neck - Necklace of Necropotence
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence
    Weapon 1 - Necropotence
    Weapon 2 - Necropotence

    More experienced players will advise a variety of weapon traits. Most popular will be Precise, Sharpened and Infused. Can be Destro/Restro or even dual wield swords.

    For farming sets I've had good results from Public Dungeons - one in each zone.

    Hope this helps

    It sure does! I tried many times in the Dolmens to get better neck and rings of Necropotence, but I gave up (I only looted the one blue Necropotence ring in all those times). No neck ever dropped. Maybe I’d be better looking for some kind of monster set to bring down my 7/5 MS to 5/5, then try for the Necropotence jewelry again.

    I also need to check on that precise, infused, etc. I think one of my staffs are infused, but again there’s so much to comprehend in this game that I get lost sometimes (or maybe all the time🙂).

    Thanks!

  • OmenRIP
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    Focus on gold glyphs for weapons and jewelry.

    To gold out items (talking about the material, not the glyphs), focus on your weapons, then later the armor. Armor mainly if it has the divines trait, that increases the effect of your mundus stone. Golding out will increase that effect by several percent.

    Golding out jewelry using platinum platings is NOT recommended. The effect can be barely noticed, and 4 platings to upgrade a ring cost ~350.000 gold. So just use gold glyphs, not expensive, on purple jewelry.
    Alternatively buy gold jewelry from the golden vendor in cyrodiil for Alliance points, or from guildstores for gold. A golden mothers sorrow ring costs 80.000-120.000 gold. Sold by people who bought them with Alliance points. Less popular sets are cheaper, I have seen gold rings of "non- best in slot" sets like Battlefield Acrobat for as low as 26.000 on xbox.

    Another way to increase the value of jewelry glyphs is to transmute the jewelry to infused.
    This can increase the damage of a spell damage glyph from 174 to 255.

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I admit, I know less about the effects of jewelry than armor. At that’s saying something 🙂. I do have 4000 Alliance points, but I’m sure that won’t get me very far.

    I applied gold increased damage glyph (that I bought) to my gold MS inferno staff and a (I think) one of my shock glyphs to my purple quest MS staff. I now realize that I really shouldnt have put that white shock glyph on my lightning staff, but I’m assuming that I can buy a gold shock glyph I can just re-enchant it.

    My enchanting skills are at 1, so it would take me a lot of time to get them up to snuff. I do have what seemed like hundreds of runes from the runestones, since I’ve collected them from the start of my playing. But I never knew what they were for until last week when I finally looked up their use. 😂. Just call me super noob and I certainly won’t be insulted.

    Thanks again.

    yes you can replace a white glyph with a better one once you have it.

    Quickest way to level up enchanting:
    find someone who will craft high level glyphs for you, then deconstruct those.
    I think I used approx 200 purple cp160 glyphs made by a friend to level up enchanting from 10 to 50 in half an hour.
    Gave him 200 rekuta and a mix of oko (health), makko(magicka) and deni (stamina) and repora (cp160) or rekuta (cp150), do not remember the latter. Best take repora if you have enough.

    I am not 100% certain if it were 200 or even less like 60.

    That’s a great idea about deconstructing the glyphs and getting a lot of leveling from it. At least I can deconstruct the useless ones I’ve looted to get a start. Now I’m not even sure what level of glyphs I put on my purple/gold staffs. After all the comments in this thread, I probably used at least one white glyph. The other I know was gold-increased weapon damage-because I paid relatively a lot for it.

    Great info! Thanks!

  • OmenRIP
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    I would not recommend seeking expensive Necropotence weapons because you already have expensive MS weapons bound to you.

    I agree that you should swap your head and shoulder pieces to a different set. I would recommend armor of the trainee until you are ready to give group content a try. Armor of the trainee gives a one piece bonus of over 1400 health to go along with the more than 1400 magicka.

    If it turns out you like running dungeons, there are some great sets in the dlc dungeons, but remember that you need to run vet. Easier alternatives are Ilambris (vCoH 1) and Maw of the Infernal (vBC II). Since you mainly run solo, maw is probably the better choice but Ilambris is easier to get.

    Thanks for the heads up about the MS staffs. I didn’t notice that message when I quested for the lightning staff and I was luckily enough to buy the gold inferno staff from a vendor.

    I love running dungeons. At least the ones I don’t get instantly killed 😄. But since there’s almost no penalty from dying it’s fun to look around. Also, if you do the human types you can pick up some nice gold in an hour. Some of the easier dungeons I just run back and forth killing everything in sight. All that gold and the armor sells for a little gold but it adds up fast since the mobs are killed so fast.

    Armor of the trainer sounds good for now. Any little bit helps. Also, I’ve never ran a vet dungeon yet so im sure that going to be an experience.

  • OmenRIP
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    It's a good idea to have a plan for your sets, as you can farm particular gear from zones/areas.
    For example -
    Delve bosses drop a waist or foot..
    Overland bosses drop a head, chest, leg, or weapon.
    Public dungeon bosses drop a shoulder, hand or weapon.
    Chests at Dark Anchors drop a jewelry set piece.
    Treasure chests have a chance to grant any set piece that can drop in that zone

    It looks like the easiest plan would be -

    Head -Hat of the Trainee - purple. Maybe a Helm for more protection?
    Epaulets of the Trainee - purple.

    Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow - Purple/infused
    Waist - Sash of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Green to Purple)
    Hands - Gloves of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Green to Purple)
    Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow - Purple/infused
    Feet - Shoes of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Blue to Purple)

    Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (you really need to farm a Purple one to replace your Blue)

    Weapon 1 - Mother’s Sorrow Inferno
    Weapon 2 - Mother’s Sorrow lightening

    I'm showing the ideal traits, but you can use whatever you have.

    This is a flexible list so that if you later want to farm Maw of the Infernal (vBC II) to replace Trainee. Maw of the Infernal does appear sometimes at the Golden Vendor. Maybe head or shoulders - 200,000 AP or gold. Check Benevolent Bowd on Saturdays.

    Khenarthi's Roost is a good zone to farm Armor of the Trainee. Over 70 treasure chest around the coast. Or you can farm easy delves in Auridon for a waist or foot piece of Queen's Elegance. Gives you more spell damage but a less flexible distribution long term.

    Ring of Necropotence in purple does drop regularly - just keep farming the dolmens.

    Personally I would not 'gold' any of your armour. Just keep them at Purple with Purple enchants. There is benefit from golding weapons.

    If you want anything crafted send a message.

    Have fun and stay safe.

    It seems like I need to do the dolmens again and keep at it until I get a purple Necropotence ring. Repetitive but easy and little waiting for the next mobs to spawn.

    Then I can do the chest runs for the Helm and Epaulets. Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to open a treasure lock with a pick. I either run out of time or break the pick. Maybe because I’m using. PS4, but I’ve tried dozens of time and never once dis I get more than 1 tumbler to lock. I just end up trying to force the lock hundreds of times until I get it open (or not). That’s another skill I have to learn.

    PS4 makes it almost impossible to group, since you need to type on that damn virtual keyboard. Since communication is so implying the group, I would be worth zero or less ☹️

    I appreciate you going over my armor and making suggestions. There’s so much info on the web, some of it very confusing (champion points for example) or contradictory. It’s refreshing to have you lay it out in a concise, easy to understand post.

    Thanks.
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    another point:

    I am not certain, if you are aware of it, as you did not mention traits.

    Before you start to upgrade your armor, make sure that it all has the divines trait.
    It increases the mundus stone effect (for your setup the thief and later the shadow recommended).
    You can find mundus stones all over tamriel, it is easier if you are in a guild, as guildhalls usually have a copy of each stone all in one place together.

    Thief increases chance to do crit damage, shadow increases the damage of critical attacks and should be used once you reach a crit chance of 60-70%.

    It is not that easy to reach a crit chance of 70%, so you need to support it by using all armor pieces in divines.

    I was really in the dark about mundus stones. I’m using Shadow now since I read somewhere that Shadow was the best for magsorc. But you suggestion that I should be using the Thief now and Shadow later makes much more sense that the blanket statement “magsorc should use Shadow”. Thanks for that insight.

    Back to glyphs, I found for sale a gold weapon glyph for Weapon Damage. On my gold MS inferno it says ‘increase damage by 345 for 5 seconds’. The gold glyph I was going to buy says it ‘increase damage by 348 for 5 seconds’. I didn’t buy it (yet) because I can’t imagine that +3 damage is worth $5000 gold

    Please someone correct me if I’m wrong. .

    Edited by OmenRIP on October 29, 2020 12:40PM
  • OmenRIP
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    Hello

    Do you know about the best/ideal traits on gear?

    As a general 'Rule of Thumb', my personal choice would be -

    Head -Infused - monster set
    Shoulders - divines - monster set
    Chest - infused - Mother’s Sorrow
    Waist -divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Hands - divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Legs - infused - Mother’s Sorrow
    Feet - divines - Mother’s Sorrow
    Neck - Necklace of Necropotence
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence
    Weapon 1 - Necropotence
    Weapon 2 - Necropotence

    More experienced players will advise a variety of weapon traits. Most popular will be Precise, Sharpened and Infused. Can be Destro/Restro or even dual wield swords.

    For farming sets I've had good results from Public Dungeons - one in each zone.

    Hope this helps

    It sure does 🙂

    I finally got my whole armor set purple (yay), but some of the traits are not optimal for a magsorc. I have a mix of invigorating, arcane, infused, well-fitted,and impenetrable.

    Is this something that I should actively pursue now? If so I need to build up a ton of crowns to acquire the armor with the best trait. Or should I wait for now, assuming I get above CP400 ( I’m 388 now) I’ll be changing armor anyway in the next few months.

    Thanks for your input.
  • OmenRIP
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    OmenRIP wrote: »
    @tmbrinks

    Thanks for the great post! I was not sure what to upgrade next. You’ve made that very clear! I’m using 2 MS staffs-inferno gold and lightning purple. So that gives me 7 MS pieces. I know that I need to swap out my head and shoulders for a monster set, but most I’ve seen suggested is from group play. Since I play exclusively solo PvE with pets, I can solo some dungeons, all delves, and a few overland bosses. But I really need some monster set that I can get myself that would ideally add to magicka, etc for my build. .

    It's a good idea to have a plan for your sets, as you can farm particular gear from zones/areas.
    For example -
    Delve bosses drop a waist or foot..
    Overland bosses drop a head, chest, leg, or weapon.
    Public dungeon bosses drop a shoulder, hand or weapon.
    Chests at Dark Anchors drop a jewelry set piece.
    Treasure chests have a chance to grant any set piece that can drop in that zone

    It looks like the easiest plan would be -

    Head -Hat of the Trainee - purple. Maybe a Helm for more protection?
    Epaulets of the Trainee - purple.

    Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow - Purple/infused
    Waist - Sash of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Green to Purple)
    Hands - Gloves of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Green to Purple)
    Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow - Purple/infused
    Feet - Shoes of Necropotence - Purple/divines (improve your Blue to Purple)

    Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (you really need to farm a Purple one to replace your Blue)

    Weapon 1 - Mother’s Sorrow Inferno
    Weapon 2 - Mother’s Sorrow lightening

    I'm showing the ideal traits, but you can use whatever you have.

    This is a flexible list so that if you later want to farm Maw of the Infernal (vBC II) to replace Trainee. Maw of the Infernal does appear sometimes at the Golden Vendor. Maybe head or shoulders - 200,000 AP or gold. Check Benevolent Bowd on Saturdays.

    Khenarthi's Roost is a good zone to farm Armor of the Trainee. Over 70 treasure chest around the coast. Or you can farm easy delves in Auridon for a waist or foot piece of Queen's Elegance. Gives you more spell damage but a less flexible distribution long term.

    Ring of Necropotence in purple does drop regularly - just keep farming the dolmens.

    Personally I would not 'gold' any of your armour. Just keep them at Purple with Purple enchants. There is benefit from golding weapons.

    If you want anything crafted send a message.

    Have fun and stay safe.

    Thank you for the offer of crafting. I’m on PS4/NA so, I’m assuming you are on the PC server ( at least that’s the most popular). I’ve been using all the Truly Superb white/blue glyphs and deconstructed them; I’m now at level 20 now. I also got a hireling to pick up runes for me (I have 31 skill points just laying around doing nothing). I’m also thinking about going into clothing to be able to craft my own armor, but from what I’ve read armor construction is much harder than glyph creation.

    But I’m not here to race through the game. But I do need enough dungeon runs to find my items.

  • OmenRIP
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    Hello again

    I'm glad you have got all your pieces together.

    CP160 is the maximum level at the moment, so what you have will do, but you may wish to farm for gear in the 'ideal' trait. So, say, if you have a Sash of Mother's Sorrow in well fitted, just run through the delves in Deshaan until a divines sash drops. White glyphs will drop regularly as well - great for decon/levelling enchanting, and of course lots of XP.

    To add a bit of variety run through the public dungeons in Deshaan and Rivenspire, and don't forget the dolmens. Even if I'm materials farming or just collecting surveys I find I can never ignore a dolmen. It's all lots of fun.

    If you do not need the gold, decon as much gear as you can to level your crafting skills to 50, and get researching ASAP. Do it all on your main character. Using some of your skill points in crafting will help with researching. All my alts have Hirelings skill set at 2/3. I started a new account last November and it took about nine months to get my main alt there to reach Grand Master Crafter. Jewelry was the slowest followed by Enchanting - not buying stuff to decon/just using stuff I found whilst levelling. All crafting is straightforward, Alchemy takes a while to learn the reagent traits; so start on all seven crafts. Doing the daily crafting writs after crafting certification will help with XP/crafting XP/ gold and materials. The minimum I do daily on ESO is completing crating writs on all my CP alts.

    Crafting can really soak up your skill points. Around 20 points per trade, but easy to get - I've a level 42 alt (not CP) who's crafting level 50 in all seven trades, with all her main trade skills at 10/10, Hirelings at 2/3, and research finished. I normally do not bother with Motif knowledge unless it is for a Grand Master Crafter title. Only have 3 GMCs - one per account/server.

    You do not 'need' crafting at the moment - you can quite happily farm for your gear - but it will help in the long term particularly with gear improvement (green to blue to purple etc). Just take your time and enjoy the learning experience.

    The new Item Set Collection system will help you in the long term - it drops for PS4 I think in a week?

    Sadly I'm on PC, so unfortunately I can not help - I can not even use a controller!

    Have fun and stay safe.

    All great ideas! Unfortunately some of my ‘non-optimal’ gear I probably will have to buy. I’ve got this setup now:

    *** Head - Hat of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-Invigorating
    *** Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-well-fitted
    * Shoulders - Epaulets of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-divines
    * Waist - Sash of Necropotence (Purple)-divines
    *** Hands - Gloves of Necropotence (Purple)-impenetrable
    * Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-infused
    *** Feet - Shoes of Necropotence (Purple)-well-fitted
    * Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-arcane
    * Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)-arcane
    * Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)-arcane

    I might be able to upgrade my 2 MS pieces myself, but the Necropotence ones I’ll probably have to buy (if they’re ever available). I think I marked the correct upgrades with ***.

    I love running public dungeons, so I’ll start again on Deeshan and Rivenspire. Im finally done the Psijic quest to get CA, and I’m currently leveling it (to what end, I cant find it on the web). I getting tired of the dungeons on Summerset. Way too easy but can get some gold with minimal effort.

    Thanks!


  • OmenRIP
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    Hello
    Did you notice another thread in the forums - Pet Build Idea - Gearsets. One quote from it:
    'max mag and spell damage as a combined thing. it doesn't matter which you get, however in general spell damage will be slightly better. I think 10.5 max mag == 1 spell damage.
    Then you want at least 55% crit chance buffed, though I prefer 60% with the Shadow mundus. If you don't have that level of crit, don't use Shadow, use Thief instead.'

    The sets you are using - Mother's Sorrow and Necropotence - are very good, but I see you still have have 7 x MS? Personally I feel that's a waste - cut it down to 5 pieces. For long term flexibility replace the head and shoulders you have with either Armour of the Trainee or Queen's Elegance. Trainee is easy to farm in Khenarthi's Roost from over 70 treasure chest around the coast. Or you can farm World Bosses and the Public Dungeon in Auridon for a Shoulder and Head piece of Queen's Elegance.
    Armor of the Trainee
    1 item: Adds 33-1454 Maximum Health
    2 items: Adds 33-1454 Maximum Magicka
    Queen's Elegance
    2 items: Adds 3-129 Spell Damage
    If you have more than one alt make sure you farm with one that is CP level - gear drops according to your alts level.

    Also watch what the Golden Vendor has for sale each week. It may take a while to find appropriate Head and Shoulder of a monster set - but worth the wait.

    I personally would not buy gear at the moment. On PC set item costs are increasing alot due to the new Item Set Collection system, and by farming the gear yourself you will get gear to decon/learn traits/extra gold/more XP to increase your CP level.

    *** Head - Hat of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-Invigorating
    ** Chest - Robe of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-well-fitted
    *** Shoulders - Epaulets of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-divines
    Waist - Sash of Necropotence (Purple)-divines
    * Hands - Gloves of Necropotence (Purple)-impenetrable
    Legs - Breeches of a Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-infused
    * Feet - Shoes of Necropotence (Purple)-well-fitted
    Neck - Necklace of Mother’s Sorrow (Purple)-arcane
    Ring1 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)-arcane
    Ring2 - Ring of Necropotence (Purple)-arcane
    Weapon 1 - Inferno Staff of Mother's Sorrow
    Weapon 2 - Lightning Staff of Mother's Sorrow

    So I would suggest a plan with:
    *** Replace with Armour of the Trainee or Queen's Elegance
    ** Farm for Infused or divines
    * Farm for divines

    I sat in the Forgotten Crypts in Deshaan during the Witches event for several hours on my second account characters just at the group boss location. With my kitchen timer set at 3 mins, killed the 3 bosses there, and collected some good Mother's Sorrow pieces. Also 5 chests nearby. Only left when my bag was full - really miss ESO+ on that account.

    Hope this helps, although others may have different suggestions.

    Have fun out there.

    I actually found a good deal on a purple MS robe in Mournhold that was infused. Also, there were lots of cheap Truly Superb white glyphs that I bought to deconstruct for enchanting (I’m now at 21; the higher levels are too pricy for me). Soloed a couple of overland bosses, but they only dropped a purple MS axe and green legs 🤔.

    I must be spastic! I used 40 lock picks on 1 intermediate check and failed every time 😩. I really need to practice; maybe this is the time to do the Khenarthi's Roost chest circuit to try to get a hang of it. I even get hepatic feedback from the ps4 (light and heavy), but I still can’t get the hang of it. Time to buy 500 lock picks and start practicing!

    It was very nice talking with you again!
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