People hoping to get high rewards from chests forget probably that there is RNG involved. Sometimes i get purple set pieces from easy chests and sometimes total trash from master, lockpicked chest atleast saves me time...

Ackwalan wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

allhailskippy wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Nobody should care, it's not a big deal. I don't get bent when I go to loot a chest and there's nothing but trash in it.

Sounds like you may be one of those people who leave items in treasure chests then.

If so, is there anything I can say to convince you to stop? It's really quite selfish.

Why do you feel it is selfish? The next person gets items if they want them that they would not have otherwise received.

Because a player hopes to be getting particular items from a chest be it gold or something else or maybe is farming a set & takes the time to stop at a particular chest - if it's already opened & only has say glyph or trait material & somebody has done it multiple times in the zone/area, then the time adds up.

So it's selfish because the player leaving stuff behind doesn't care if it is wasting or inconveniencing the time of another player only that they get what they want.

That's like claiming the loot that drops for other people belong to you because you are looking for it. Who is really being selfish?

I don't see the correlation nor how you derived that meaning from what I said.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

allhailskippy wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Nobody should care, it's not a big deal. I don't get bent when I go to loot a chest and there's nothing but trash in it.

Sounds like you may be one of those people who leave items in treasure chests then.

If so, is there anything I can say to convince you to stop? It's really quite selfish.

Why do you feel it is selfish? The next person gets items if they want them that they would not have otherwise received.

Because a player hopes to be getting particular items from a chest be it gold or something else or maybe is farming a set & takes the time to stop at a particular chest - if it's already opened & only has say glyph or trait material & somebody has done it multiple times in the zone/area, then the time adds up.

So it's selfish because the player leaving stuff behind doesn't care if it is wasting or inconveniencing the time of another player only that they get what they want.

I mean chests aren't guaranteed to be the good rewards whether you open them or not? Someone disappointed that they got something instead of nothing is supposed to reflect poorly on the character on the person that left something?

Chests are guaranteed to give you some gold & experience & just a chance of something good such as a set item.

Other players take the gold, experience & that chance which may or not matter dependent on whether you are farming chests to possibly get a set item.

It reflects poorly because those players dont care about other players hoping to get that or taking the time to get that.

Narvuntien wrote: »

It's ESO + free week this week but most of the time I am running around with full bank and an almost full inventory and I don't have space for trash form treasure chests.

Why can't I just delete the chest when I am done with it?

Cheap people who don't have crafting bag, banker and merchant.
Just leave the chest for the fat cats who has other problems

Ackwalan wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

allhailskippy wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

allhailskippy wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Nobody should care, it's not a big deal. I don't get bent when I go to loot a chest and there's nothing but trash in it.

Sounds like you may be one of those people who leave items in treasure chests then.

If so, is there anything I can say to convince you to stop? It's really quite selfish.

Why do you feel it is selfish? The next person gets items if they want them that they would not have otherwise received.

Because a player hopes to be getting particular items from a chest be it gold or something else or maybe is farming a set & takes the time to stop at a particular chest - if it's already opened & only has say glyph or trait material & somebody has done it multiple times in the zone/area, then the time adds up.

So it's selfish because the player leaving stuff behind doesn't care if it is wasting or inconveniencing the time of another player only that they get what they want.

That's like claiming the loot that drops for other people belong to you because you are looking for it. Who is really being selfish?

Still the person who left the trash.

They're not stealing the items. Obviously whoever opens the chest is entitled to take the contents.

What they are stealing is the next persons chance at getting a decent quality drop.

The respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not emptied. Nothing was stolen from the person that ran by within 10 min. Not loot, not time not even the inconvenience of only getting a trait stone.

So when I see a chest & go towards it & go to open it only to find it's been opened already by another player who maybe only left behind a trait stone somehow the laws of physics & space time dont apply or get broken & I never did spend that time to do that?

Fascinating.

Those 30 seconds don't matter. You lost nothing real.

30 seconds, are you including travel time & obstacles?

If it always only took 30 seconds to get to & open a chest (whether used or locked) that would be awesome!

Sometimes though it might take less than that & other times way more depending on where a chest is & how difficult it is to get to it - ie up on a tree branch, down on a small ledge off of a cliff drop (yes I'm side eyeing you Malabal Tor lol) or if there are mobs to fight through.

Sevn wrote: »

Always hated wasting my time trying to get to a chest that has already been looted. Nothing will change these types of players minds, nothing.

They'll come up with every excuse in the book to try and justify bad behavior. None of these people want to look in the mirror and see a selfish person.

And it is selfish. You think your time is more important than others so you don't care. Period. Probably the same type of people who throw trash out the car window and justify it by saying someone else has a job because they are a litterbug.

Yeah I think at the end of the day we just have to accept that some people dont care & do whatever they want regardless of how it might affect others while others take everyone into consideration & those people that dont care can play online games & are only constrained by the limits of said game

I wish they would change chests to take all or nothing (not even the exp or gold) - then you wouldn't find chests half-looted.

Most of the annoyance I feel when I come upon a partially harvested node has nothing to do with "lost loot" or "lost time" It's got everything to do with been given false hope /expectations and knowing the person who came before could easily have saved me the disappointment. It's a really minor annoyance in the context provided by RNG though. That is, that hope was against some pretty steep odds to begin with

daemondamian wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

allhailskippy wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Nobody should care, it's not a big deal. I don't get bent when I go to loot a chest and there's nothing but trash in it.

Sounds like you may be one of those people who leave items in treasure chests then.

If so, is there anything I can say to convince you to stop? It's really quite selfish.

Why do you feel it is selfish? The next person gets items if they want them that they would not have otherwise received.

Because a player hopes to be getting particular items from a chest be it gold or something else or maybe is farming a set & takes the time to stop at a particular chest - if it's already opened & only has say glyph or trait material & somebody has done it multiple times in the zone/area, then the time adds up.

So it's selfish because the player leaving stuff behind doesn't care if it is wasting or inconveniencing the time of another player only that they get what they want.

I mean chests aren't guaranteed to be the good rewards whether you open them or not? Someone disappointed that they got something instead of nothing is supposed to reflect poorly on the character on the person that left something?

Chests are guaranteed to give you some gold & experience & just a chance of something good such as a set item.

Other players take the gold, experience & that chance which may or not matter dependent on whether you are farming chests to possibly get a set item.

It reflects poorly because those players dont care about other players hoping to get that or taking the time to get that.

But those players wouldn't have received anything. My loot is set to auto-loot, so I take everything always at all times. I also have ESO plus, so it's not like this causes me any problems. But, I have ran to a flower before and been happy that someone left behind the alchemical resin. Because I use that furnishings.

The choice isn't between gold/etc and trash. The choice is between trash and absolutely nothing. And one man's trash is another person's treasure.

Seems to me like someone is calling others names because they can't manage their own disappointment, tbh. I personally would rather have something than nothing, every bit of coin helps. Sure I might be a bit disappointed it's already open, but I wouldn't think ill of the person that opened it. Just seems odd to me. At least I got some coin out of the chests, that's better than nothing

spartaxoxo wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

allhailskippy wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Nobody should care, it's not a big deal. I don't get bent when I go to loot a chest and there's nothing but trash in it.

Sounds like you may be one of those people who leave items in treasure chests then.

If so, is there anything I can say to convince you to stop? It's really quite selfish.

Why do you feel it is selfish? The next person gets items if they want them that they would not have otherwise received.

Because a player hopes to be getting particular items from a chest be it gold or something else or maybe is farming a set & takes the time to stop at a particular chest - if it's already opened & only has say glyph or trait material & somebody has done it multiple times in the zone/area, then the time adds up.

So it's selfish because the player leaving stuff behind doesn't care if it is wasting or inconveniencing the time of another player only that they get what they want.

I mean chests aren't guaranteed to be the good rewards whether you open them or not? Someone disappointed that they got something instead of nothing is supposed to reflect poorly on the character on the person that left something?

Chests are guaranteed to give you some gold & experience & just a chance of something good such as a set item.

Other players take the gold, experience & that chance which may or not matter dependent on whether you are farming chests to possibly get a set item.

It reflects poorly because those players dont care about other players hoping to get that or taking the time to get that.

But those players wouldn't have received anything. My loot is set to auto-loot, so I take everything always at all times. I also have ESO plus, so it's not like this causes me any problems. But, I have ran to a flower before and been happy that someone left behind the alchemical resin. Because I use that furnishings.

The choice isn't between gold/etc and trash. The choice is between trash and absolutely nothing. And one man's trash is another person's treasure.

Seems to me like someone is calling others names because they can't manage their own disappointment, tbh. I personally would rather have something than nothing, every bit of coin helps. Sure I might be a bit disappointed it's already open, but I wouldn't think ill of the person that opened it. Just seems odd to me. At least I got some coin out of the chests, that's better than nothing

I'd prefer no chest to a half looted chest. I use alchemical resin too but I have 13 chars & make a lot of potions in bulk so I don't like harvesting a plant node only to find it just has AR left in it.

For someone without a lot of money or just starting out the gold & exp from chests can be very useful & item set pieces can be acquired too in addition to from delve bosses or if you can't solo WB or afford buying from the guild traders.

Same goes for safeboxes; I use invisibility potions to speed up accessing them without getting caught where & when I can't sneak/hide & in Bal Foyen where I'm trying to get leads from them I can do two in a row quickly one after the other.

It's a waste of my time & disappointing when one of those boxes turns out to already have been opened.

Just because you're not disappointed at getting the items left behind by others doesn't mean other people shouldn't be or that they have a problem managing their disappointment: why should they have to anyway?

It's great that opening half-looted things is a positive experience for you but it isn't necessarily for others.

Neither level (mild to high)or lack of disappointment is right or wrong; all are valid responses/feelings but it is a fact that some people/players don't care about others feelings while some do.

daemondamian wrote: »

Might be a non-issue for you & that's great but for others it is.

If I can accept it's a non-issue for you or other players why can't you accept it is for others?

I didn't make the original post but am just responding.

Maybe some players like to know how other players feel about something so making a forum post isn't an inconvenience for them but a means of discussing it with others.

That goes twofold. Perhaps that leftover "junk" is an issue for the other player if he were to take it all. In the end, this is a game with many other glaring issues that some players may be coming to the forums to discuss. Leaving partially looted chests/nodes is a petty, non-issue that has been discussed many times prior... Using the search feature would have led the OP to the answer they were seeking. My response is more so directed toward everyone else who seems to think someone has spat in their face by leaving items in a node. Sure, be courteous to one another, but there is a slim to no chance that anyone leaves a partially looted node just to spite others in-game

Ultimately, leaving chests/nodes partially looted does not have any weight in deciding how soon the chest/node respawns which is indirectly related to the question OP had asked. It doesn't affect respawn rates, and is therefore no different than looting everything no matter how many people get triggered by such behavior. The ONLY difference is, the salty player gets some decon/sell-able loot rather than nothing at all. If anything, those players are complaining about coming out ahead. People can complain about the chest/nodes being partially looted, and others can complain about this being a non-issue. What bothers you, may not bother me; there is no right or wrong way to looting a node. Should I go make a post because I am forced to take every garbage, loot diluting item from a chest just so I don't feel like I have "wronged" other players?

... Weird, this almost sounds like a discussion with others after all

daemondamian wrote: »

It's great that opening half-looted things is a positive experience for you but it isn't necessarily for others.

Neither level (mild to high)or lack of disappointment is right or wrong; all are valid responses/feelings but it is a fact that some people/players don't care about others feelings while some do.

Okay. But the person who leaves behind the loot cannot know if the next person will be glad to get the items or would rather have nothing. So making a value judgment about them and calling them selfish, is where I think it's poor management of your disappointment.

It's not inherently selfish to leave loot behind. Some may view as leaving it behind in case someone else wants it. Some may not have anything in their bag they feel comfortable deleting to take it.

I disagree with the idea that because you personally don't like the way someone did something or felt disappointed, that the person that made you feel that way is automatically bad (e.g. selfish). Sometimes you simply have conflicting views on how a situation ought to be handled. That doesn't make them selfish.

I mean they could view you the same way. You expect me to delete things that I need just so you don't have to see trash?

spartaxoxo wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

It's great that opening half-looted things is a positive experience for you but it isn't necessarily for others.

Neither level (mild to high)or lack of disappointment is right or wrong; all are valid responses/feelings but it is a fact that some people/players don't care about others feelings while some do.

Okay. But the person who leaves behind the loot cannot know if the next person will be glad to get the items or would rather have nothing. So making a value judgment about them and calling them selfish, is where I think it's poor management of your disappointment.

It's not inherently selfish to leave loot behind. Some may view as leaving it behind in case someone else wants it. Some may not have anything in their bag they feel comfortable deleting to take it.

I disagree with the idea that because you personally don't like the way someone did something or felt disappointed, that the person that made you feel that way is automatically bad (e.g. selfish). Sometimes you simply have conflicting views on how a situation ought to be handled. That doesn't make them selfish.

I mean they could view you the same way. You expect me to delete things that I need just so you don't have to see trash?

You dont get the gold, experience, possibly set items that you might have wanted, & the chance for a lead.

If you're specifically looking for a lead spending a significant amount of time finding chests that have already been & left as 'used' with minor value items is very frustrating.

Surely other players must know that - if so yes it's selfish because they leave the chest there anyway - calling it an act of kindness or being considerate of other players because 'hey you didnt get the lead but at least I left you a trait stone & or glyph' is ridiculous.

I think we can only agree on one thing here which is that we disagree with each other lol - so you can continue to enjoy half-looted things & possibly half looting things yourself while I others will continue to be disappointed & find half looted things to be a negative experience that we feel reflects poorly on the person/s who half looted them