I agree its crazy.

<shrug> Its a gold sink. And losing durability from fighting regardless of whether you are getting hit or not makes it kinda fair for the tanks out there.

It may make no sense from a realism point of view, but it makes sense from a game balance point of view.

Sharee wrote: »

<shrug> Its a gold sink. And losing durability from fighting regardless of whether you are getting hit or not makes it kinda fair for the tanks out there.

It may make no sense from a realism point of view, but it makes sense from a game balance point of view.

Other then the fact the tanks suffer from the same Loss.... they are just getting it twice as bad.

robertstollster wrote: »

So I don't know how many people have noticed, You armor loses durability without Death Without being Hit just simply killing mobs will take your item durability to 0... So If lets say I go farming with a friend who's a tank... I never once get hit or take damage I never once Die... and yet 3k -4k repair bills without fail. I've always believed repair bills might be a little high at some levels but finding this information out makes the repair coast insane... I've tested this for some time with the same result.

I dont see why thats a bad thing, I personally dont mind it! Stop crying and play the game!

I can't seem to figure out why repairing cost like 5 times as much as selling the armour.

yes its clearly to even out the costs with DPS /healers to tank ratio. honestly i think its a good thing. tho prices are a bit extreme at vet ranks.

mt

Truthfully, I know early on in the game it seems like a lot of moula... But I quested my way from v3 to v6 over the weekend, and while I admittedly wear my gear to breaking point and beyond?

I ended up with more gold than i know what to do with.

I agree with some of you, its all about game balance. I play with tanks, healers, casters, archer, you name it. When ever we go out to do some serious business we always fix all our gear at the same time and we return at the same time. So far as far as I can tell with us all having about the same level and quality of gear our repair bills are pretty close unless someone died then it maybe off 20-100 gold but usually its the same across the bored. Also like someone mentioned before, it has been a few years since I played the other ES games but some builds I had took no damage most of the time but I still had to repair alot of my gear (Will have to look into this a bit).

Good.

Finally a game that keeps the farmers in the barn where they belong.

The fact that most mobs drop around 3 gold pieces and that long quests give around 300 gold and at level 10 my repair bill is just over 1000 gold I can safely say it's broken from a economic view.


So craft the whites and save the improvement mats.

I agree with this, haven't repaired since level 1 (Vet 1 now) because the price is insanely high (2-3k every 2-3 hours of leveling).

The way armor degrades needs to be addressed and the price it costs to repair too. There's plenty of other gold sinks that are more interesting and rewarding than repairing armor. (Bank slots, inventory slots, mounts, pets etc.)

Repair either needs to be changed or removed completely.

Laerian wrote: »

KerinKor wrote: »

Isn't this how durability has always been handled in TES games? I know one other MMO where this mechanic is used.

Morrowind and Oblivion used weapon and armor degradation; Skyrim did not

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To be honest, I'm not against weapon & armor degradation in mmorpgs I think it is a must, however how fast they degrade can be game breaking.

Repairing is ridiculously overpriced. In the end I have to craft extra sets or I simply run with all the equipment broken.

I think the devs are missing the point here, repair prices affect the player behaviour, making improving and enchanting a waste of time.

This craze to make almost every useful feature a huge gold sink is ignore the human nature.

Nail on the head.

The current mechanic might have flown in a single-player game that has no player-run economy. But in an mmorpg, it is a drastic matter. I've only repair once or twice in my lower levels, then did the math... I switched to either crafting new stuff, or hoarding medium gear drops from quests and mobs, and using them once my current stuff is broken.

When I go out to farm, I just get naked. There is no point to even bothering with gear when farming for mob mats, because of the durability cost. Hell, I finished the Molag Bal fight in Cold Harbour at level 48 (like everyone else), but literally every last piece of my gear was broken before even starting. I died the first attempt due to unfamiliarity with mechanics, then stomped him the second time. I was expecting to not even be able to complete the fight, because I was practically naked. But no...

I also don't mind there being armor/weapon degradation. However, the rate of degradation, as well as the cost per point to repair, is seemingly out of whack. I've been able to save loads of money to buy bags space, mounts, etc, but some other folks I know, who are repairing gear to keep the set bonus, aren't even close to being able to get the 17k mount (not that the mount matters, but a frame of reference for money incoming and outgoing).