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ESO bails on GeForce Now

  • CallmeFishmeal
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    Please just add ESO back on GeForce Now <3 I haven't been able to play at all since it was pulled. It's not fair, especially with the new chapter right around the corner. If I can't play it I want my money back!
  • Vanos444
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    Little upset here, I bought the game a second time on steam just to be able to play ESO on my PC or on my Shield in the living room. Also love doing things like crafting on my phone while I watch TV. I bought a Shield just for this option. Pls don't do this :/

    Tough luck! unless you're a bigger whale than the rest, then they might join Geforce again.
  • Canasta
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    Rather than use Geforce now, I could hire a computer with a half decent GPU in the cloud from any number of suppliers.

    Then i could install steam on that computer and via remote desktop, I could "stream" that game back to my laptop at home.

    Now, I accept that streaming a game over RDP would not be very good, but at the end of the day it would work and there is absolutely nothing Steam or Bethesda can do to stop me.

    Now, if these companies keep pulling out of Geforce now. Then Nvidia can simply move to the model of renting out computers in the cloud, this would be more expensive, maybe $10 a month rather than what they charge now. As you would need some permanent cloud storage per person.

    These rented computers would have a piece of software that compresses WHATEVER is on the screen and sends it down the line. Basically doing the same thing that they do now to compress and deliver video at the moment, but detached from any gaming platform, it would be installed on the rented computers operation system.

    These are my thoughts on the matter, feel free to pick holes in my argument.



  • Nanfoodle
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    Canasta wrote: »
    Rather than use Geforce now, I could hire a computer with a half decent GPU in the cloud from any number of suppliers.

    Then i could install steam on that computer and via remote desktop, I could "stream" that game back to my laptop at home.

    Now, I accept that streaming a game over RDP would not be very good, but at the end of the day it would work and there is absolutely nothing Steam or Bethesda can do to stop me.

    Now, if these companies keep pulling out of Geforce now. Then Nvidia can simply move to the model of renting out computers in the cloud, this would be more expensive, maybe $10 a month rather than what they charge now. As you would need some permanent cloud storage per person.

    These rented computers would have a piece of software that compresses WHATEVER is on the screen and sends it down the line. Basically doing the same thing that they do now to compress and deliver video at the moment, but detached from any gaming platform, it would be installed on the rented computers operation system.

    These are my thoughts on the matter, feel free to pick holes in my argument.



    Thats the funny thing, GeForce makes no money from the games. You just play the games you bought on their servers. For $5.99 a month you are renting access to a PC for your games. Why game companies are bailing is not on GeForce. It's greed of deals they are signing with companies like Google. It's the whole exclusive thing all over again. Halo for Xbox, FF for Sony, Mario for Nintendo. These game companies are going to have us subbing to 10 different platforms.
  • VaranisArano
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    Canasta wrote: »
    Rather than use Geforce now, I could hire a computer with a half decent GPU in the cloud from any number of suppliers.

    Then i could install steam on that computer and via remote desktop, I could "stream" that game back to my laptop at home.

    Now, I accept that streaming a game over RDP would not be very good, but at the end of the day it would work and there is absolutely nothing Steam or Bethesda can do to stop me.

    Now, if these companies keep pulling out of Geforce now. Then Nvidia can simply move to the model of renting out computers in the cloud, this would be more expensive, maybe $10 a month rather than what they charge now. As you would need some permanent cloud storage per person.

    These rented computers would have a piece of software that compresses WHATEVER is on the screen and sends it down the line. Basically doing the same thing that they do now to compress and deliver video at the moment, but detached from any gaming platform, it would be installed on the rented computers operation system.

    These are my thoughts on the matter, feel free to pick holes in my argument.



    Thats the funny thing, GeForce makes no money from the games. You just play the games you bought on their servers. For $5.99 a month you are renting access to a PC for your games. Why game companies are bailing is not on GeForce. It's greed of deals they are signing with companies like Google. It's the whole exclusive thing all over again. Halo for Xbox, FF for Sony, Mario for Nintendo. These game companies are going to have us subbing to 10 different platforms.

    If you haven't done so already, you might want to do some of the reading on why it's more complicated than that.

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/2/21161469/nvidia-geforce-now-cloud-gaming-service-developers-controversy-licensing

    https://www.pcgamer.com/the-controversy-over-geforce-now-explained
  • Nanfoodle
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    Canasta wrote: »
    Rather than use Geforce now, I could hire a computer with a half decent GPU in the cloud from any number of suppliers.

    Then i could install steam on that computer and via remote desktop, I could "stream" that game back to my laptop at home.

    Now, I accept that streaming a game over RDP would not be very good, but at the end of the day it would work and there is absolutely nothing Steam or Bethesda can do to stop me.

    Now, if these companies keep pulling out of Geforce now. Then Nvidia can simply move to the model of renting out computers in the cloud, this would be more expensive, maybe $10 a month rather than what they charge now. As you would need some permanent cloud storage per person.

    These rented computers would have a piece of software that compresses WHATEVER is on the screen and sends it down the line. Basically doing the same thing that they do now to compress and deliver video at the moment, but detached from any gaming platform, it would be installed on the rented computers operation system.

    These are my thoughts on the matter, feel free to pick holes in my argument.



    Thats the funny thing, GeForce makes no money from the games. You just play the games you bought on their servers. For $5.99 a month you are renting access to a PC for your games. Why game companies are bailing is not on GeForce. It's greed of deals they are signing with companies like Google. It's the whole exclusive thing all over again. Halo for Xbox, FF for Sony, Mario for Nintendo. These game companies are going to have us subbing to 10 different platforms.

    If you haven't done so already, you might want to do some of the reading on why it's more complicated than that.

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/2/21161469/nvidia-geforce-now-cloud-gaming-service-developers-controversy-licensing

    https://www.pcgamer.com/the-controversy-over-geforce-now-explained

    I have and it's not. Always comes to one thing, greed and it's always the customer that ends up paying more because of it. I'm not following ESO to another streaming platform. I paid for another copy of the game to play on Geforce. So even if I get Stadia, Zen has lost me as a customer in that way.
  • Mauzeroth
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    It's getting to be time to push back on the whole ability of companies to execute licenses or give us as consumers a lot more protection and rights with them in the digital world. Companies have been slowly eroding our software rights for years.

    I've moved away from PCs and back toward Macs in recent years. GeForce Now allowed me to play ESO on a Mac. I spent money on computers for my boys recently. It will be quite a while before I buy another gaming PC, so oh well. I'll probably cancel my GeForce Now Founder subscription, but it only makes sense to cancel my ESO one as well. Same thing I told Blizzard. When they make it possible me to play again, I'll resubscribe.

    Honestly, there's probably a lot of other things I should be doing with my time. And, if I really get bored, noticed EVE Online is still on GeForce. See you all around if they work things out.
  • Sergykid
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    hey i just got GeForce NOW (free version for now) to play ESO because it's starting to work worse over time even on lowest settings, and as i see in task manager it's forcing my computer very much (old potato).

    i have ESO on Steam, but i don't find it in the GeForce NOW panel (other games like the Witcher appear there) with Steam library synced. Does it even work? did it use to work? what i must do?
    -PC EU- / battlegrounds on my youtube
  • Vevvev
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    Sergykid wrote: »
    hey i just got GeForce NOW (free version for now) to play ESO because it's starting to work worse over time even on lowest settings, and as i see in task manager it's forcing my computer very much (old potato).

    i have ESO on Steam, but i don't find it in the GeForce NOW panel (other games like the Witcher appear there) with Steam library synced. Does it even work? did it use to work? what i must do?

    ESO is no longer on the GeForce service. You can't play it on there which is why this thread exists.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • BigBragg
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    If I had to venture a guess, this is another change due to Google Stadia contracts.
  • zergbase_ESO
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    Sergykid wrote: »
    hey i just got GeForce NOW (free version for now) to play ESO because it's starting to work worse over time even on lowest settings, and as i see in task manager it's forcing my computer very much (old potato).

    i have ESO on Steam, but i don't find it in the GeForce NOW panel (other games like the Witcher appear there) with Steam library synced. Does it even work? did it use to work? what i must do?

    Google would've answered this but it is not on Geforce now anymore. Stadia yes. But even google giving up on the platform as you can see new chrome casts do not support stadia and it is become a distant memory for them.
  • krayphysh
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    I hate that you never had the pleasure of playing ESO on GeForce Now...it was amazing! I ended up purchasing a gaming pc after ESO was no longer available on GeForce Now, but it was really awesome to experience nearly flawless gameplay on any device via Nvidia's servers. I hope to see it return someday...
  • Inoki
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    This should definitely be brought back. I just subscribed to GeForce Now and am blown away how good the service is.

    One very important reason for me for signing up is that I intend to continue on a Mac in the future, and cloud gaming is a life saver for Mac users.

    On top of that, this game is already made available on several platforms, including PS4 / PS5, Stadia, Xbox and PC, so why not (re)add GFN? It would be a grave mistake not to do so. Forcing users your way, Bethesda / Microsoft, is the worst user experience.

    Let us play on a platform of our choosing. That way they cover more ground and possibly earn even more.
    ☁️ Cloud gamer via NVIDIA GeForce NOW
    Used to game on Mac until we got the 🖕🏻
  • Norgh
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    Hopefully it may come back on Geforce Now when the Stadia contract comes to an end however long that may be.
    Xbox EU-UK Xbox Series X
  • Inoki
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    I really don't get this. Why don't we get an official statement? Check this comment out, sourced from PCWorld,
    “We spoke at length about GeForce Now and why it rocks on a recent episode of our Full Nerd podcast, and its value proposition isn’t limited to gamers alone. Nvidia’s service doesn’t sell you games directly. Instead, it basically rents you a gaming PC in the cloud, and you sign into gaming platforms like Steam, the Epic Game Store, and (formerly) Battle.net to play games you already own. Nvidia doesn’t take an extra cut. By giving you access to more powerful hardware than you might already own, GeForce Now effectively encourages you to buy more games through existing storefronts. It feels like a win-win for everybody involved… It’s not an all-you-can-eat-buffet subscription like Netflix or Hulu. Activision isn’t losing out even if the company decides to start its own rival cloud gaming service.”

    This is the best gaming experience I have. I don't have to worry about buying an ove-rexpensive machine that will be obsolete in the near future, I can rent one in the cloud and play games on ultra details always, AND THEY PULL THEIR GAMES FROM IT???

    Another comment on the press release:
    “I’m devastated by this news. I played Elder Scrolls Online for hours everyday on GeForce Now because I don’t have a gaming PC,” said CallmeFishmeal. “I will wait it out and see what happens while the free Founders membership is active. If I don’t see any improvement when it’s time to renew the subscription, I’m out. I’m not mad at Nvidia, although more communication would be nice, but I understand there are probably things that legally can and cannot be disclosed to customers, I’m just upset that Bethesda chose this path to pull all its games from GeForce Now and not worried about upsetting their fans. Seems to me they should try harder to get their games out to as many people as possible.”

    ^ exactly right.
    ☁️ Cloud gamer via NVIDIA GeForce NOW
    Used to game on Mac until we got the 🖕🏻
  • Tandor
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    Necro alert!
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