How do so many idiots get to rule in Tamriel?
FlopsyPrince
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The Alik'r think killing the undead is wrong if they are from their ancestors.
Now the kind of Western Skyrim is a paranoid fool. I almost want to let his area burn and/or put an arrow in the back of his head, but the quest line doesn't allow that.
Now the kind of Western Skyrim is a paranoid fool. I almost want to let his area burn and/or put an arrow in the back of his head, but the quest line doesn't allow that.
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M_Volsung✭✭✭✭✭That's when I fire up TES5, make sure no one is marked essential, and go on a happy little murder spree."In the Deep Halls, Far from Men;
Forsaken Red Mountain, Twisted Kin;
Hail the Mind, Hail the Stone;
Dwarven Pride, Stronger than Bone"
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✭For every idiot leader there are legions of weak superstitious submissive types making excuses for them and fawning all over their totally unjustified self confidence, and an equally large mass of people just as idiotic as the leader to do enforcement whenever the sheep get uppity.
Basically, Tamriel is still the dark ages. Shame the Dwemer blasted off into space instead of helping fix things.
Cowards.
Edited by WhyMustItBe on September 27, 2020 5:43AM8 -
FlopsyPrince✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭At least let me kick the king in the gut and rough up his guards a bit!
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »And I am from the AD, not King Jorul. Idiot!
Yeah, AD, who decided letting the new queen in her twenties abruptly supplant her brother right before his coronation (and not put him in therapy, pronto) was a good idea...
The one who gets me the most is Grandmaster Tanval Indoril. His son dies, which is sad, but in his rampage to get revenge, his immediate response is to kidnap another grandmaster's son and hold him hostage. Like, dude, seriously?5 -
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✭✭✭I would say that the fact he went wacko means he should not have been the AD king after all. Though I have never seen the backstory of why she was the queen. I always assumed her brother was younger, but that is certainly not completely clear.PC
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✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »I would say that the fact he went wacko means he should not have been the AD king after all. Though I have never seen the backstory of why she was the queen. I always assumed her brother was younger, but that is certainly not completely clear.
The main AD storyline makes it clear he is her younger brother, and only got a place in line for succession after Ayrenn went off to travel the world and dance with bears and make sweet love to khajiits or whatever.
Some say she abdicated her responsibilities, but it also sounded like the king died AFTER she left to sow her wild oats, and coincidentally being away from home when the reining monarch dies doesn't necessarily disqualify an eldest sibling from taking priority.
But succession rules are weird.
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✭✭I’m EP to the core, but I would merrily throw Jorunn under a stampeding wamasu.
There are several others (non-Nords) who would be so much better as the leader of the EP.4 -
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Naemon is younger. A quote from The Improved Emperor's Guide to Tamriel:FlopsyPrince wrote: »I would say that the fact he went wacko means he should not have been the AD king after all. Though I have never seen the backstory of why she was the queen. I always assumed her brother was younger, but that is certainly not completely clear.As the presumed (and now former) heir, Naemon had not anticipated his older sister's return.The Three Storm Sharks, episode 8 released on january the 8th.
One mer to rule them all,
one mer to find them,
One mer to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them.1 -
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but without them would we have any stories to chase
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Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »I would say that the fact he went wacko means he should not have been the AD king after all. Though I have never seen the backstory of why she was the queen. I always assumed her brother was younger, but that is certainly not completely clear.
I give Naemon a small pass, given that he's even younger than Ayrenn, stepped up to fill her shoes when his father died, underwent the proper training of an heir, and was preparing for his coronation...only to have it yanked away from him when she returned and grudgingly support her only to find out that his wife is leading a rebellion, his wife tried to kill his sister, his sister did kill his wife, and then Ayrenn sends him off to make nice to the Wood elves and gives him the task of proving once and for all that Ayrenn is the better ruler than he will ever be...
Yeah, Naemon tried to overthrow his sister and in the doing proved why he would be a worse ruler after all. But as a tragic figure, I can certainly understand why he did it.10 -
ayu_fever✭✭✭✭✭divayth fyr gets my vote.
living by house telvanni customs do make for a happy life.
dark elf master race !!!Edited by ayu_fever on September 27, 2020 11:44AMPS4 NA
all characters are members of the ebonheart pact master race
BLOOD FOR THE PACT
main character:
Rebekah Straight-Fire, breton templar healer: THE FATEBRINGER (dungeons, trials, pvp)
—MERIDIA’S LUSTRANT— 1100+CP; alliance rank 21 (major grade 1); Rebekah is the most devoted and loyal follower of the lady of infinite energies and the highest ascendant of meridia’s purified legion and was forged from meridia’s brilliant radiance of purity.
other meta toons-
Alexa Straight-Fire, breton warden healer: THE ALCHEMIST (dungeons, trials)
Sasha Straight-Fire, nord dragonknight tank: THE UNBREAKABLE (dungeons, trials)
Freyja Straight-Fire, nord warden tank: THE ICEBERG (dungeons, trials)
Ororo Straight-Fire, dark elf magsorc: THE SHOCKWAVE (dungeons, trials)
Michonne Straight-Fire, redguard stamDK: THE EVISCERATOR (dungeons, trials)
just for fun toons-
Rhea Straight-Fire, wood elf warden stam healer: THE RANGER
Shiva Straight-Fire, high elf warden ice mage: THE CRYOMANCER
Morgana Straight-Fire, dark elf necromancer solo play: THE DEATHSINGER
Lucille Straight-Fire, dark elf nightblade solo play: THE VOIDWALKER
Diana Straight-Fire, nord templar tank: THE CLERIC
Falsetto Straight-Fire, orc stamsorc werewolf: THE THUNDERHOWL0 -
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^ This. Irl there are similar cases of idiots/fools around the world. There were also in the past and it's very probable that we will have some more in the future...
Human kind, to whom the ends/goals justifies the means...
Edit: added a couple of lines.Edited by redlink1979 on September 27, 2020 11:51AM"Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2360 CP
- Daggerfall's Mightiest | Eternal Champions | Legacy | Tamriel Melting Pot [PS][NA] 2190 CP
- SweetTrolls | Spring Rose | Daggerfall Royal Legion | Tinnitus Delux [PC][EU] 2345 CP
- Bacon Rats | Silverlight Brotherhood | Canis Root Tea Party | Vincula Doloris [PC][NA] 2090 CP
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✭Jorunn, Emeric and Ayrenn are actually not all that bad, compared to many of their scheming underlings, nasty relatives and wannabe usurpers. Ayrenn in particular comes across as a reasonably intelligent and somewhat reluctant leader who means well and is not blindly following tradition. The sad fact that she will be unable to root out the racists among the Thalmor and lose to isolationists and Altmer supremacists in the long run does not make her effort less commendable.
(And I'm not saying that just because she is good looking. That would be awfully shallow of me.)4 -
VoxAdActa✭✭✭✭✭stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »Jorunn, Emeric and Ayrenn are actually not all that bad, compared to many of their scheming underlings, nasty relatives and wannabe usurpers. Ayrenn in particular comes across as a reasonably intelligent and somewhat reluctant leader who means well and is not blindly following tradition. The sad fact that she will be unable to root out the racists among the Thalmor and lose to isolationists and Altmer supremacists in the long run does not make her effort less commendable.
(And I'm not saying that just because she is good looking. That would be awfully shallow of me.)
You might be being a bit harsh on the Thalmor and the AD. I think managing to create a 1000-year period of "staying out of other peoples' business" is a pretty damn good legacy.4 -
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erliesc✭✭✭WhyMustItBe wrote: »For every idiot leader there are legions of weak superstitious submissive types making excuses for them and fawning all over their totally unjustified self confidence, and an equally large mass of people just as idiotic as the leader to do enforcement whenever the sheep get uppity.
Basically, Tamriel is still the dark ages. Shame the Dwemer blasted off into space instead of helping fix things.
Cowards.
They are known as "the dummies".I know nutting....0 -
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alanmatillab16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Because just like in real life the ability to lead is not always the only consideration for the choice of a leader.3
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Yes, you can understand his motives and why he fell in with the veiled heritance, guess he lent a lot into their politic in the first place too, so an nasty piece of work.VaranisArano wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »I would say that the fact he went wacko means he should not have been the AD king after all. Though I have never seen the backstory of why she was the queen. I always assumed her brother was younger, but that is certainly not completely clear.
I give Naemon a small pass, given that he's even younger than Ayrenn, stepped up to fill her shoes when his father died, underwent the proper training of an heir, and was preparing for his coronation...only to have it yanked away from him when she returned and grudgingly support her only to find out that his wife is leading a rebellion, his wife tried to kill his sister, his sister did kill his wife, and then Ayrenn sends him off to make nice to the Wood elves and gives him the task of proving once and for all that Ayrenn is the better ruler than he will ever be...
Yeah, Naemon tried to overthrow his sister and in the doing proved why he would be a worse ruler after all. But as a tragic figure, I can certainly understand why he did it.
Ayrenn, her weakness is that she is young an naive, her years adventuring teach her a lot of things, intrigues at court was not one of them.
Edited by zaria on September 27, 2020 9:51PMGrinding just make you go in circles.
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✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »The Alik'r think killing the undead is wrong if they are from their ancestors.
Now the kind of Western Skyrim is a paranoid fool. I almost want to let his area burn and/or put an arrow in the back of his head, but the quest line doesn't allow that.
Without spoilers, finish the story.1 -
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✭✭✭Emeric is the one who irritated me the most. How many of his people end up dead, tortured and dead, turned into vampires, and had their homes destroyed because wise King Emeric can't make a decision?
He takes the first random stranger wandering by, sends them out to fix things and wade through rivers of blood to finally pick who will be his subordinate ruler. He is so pointless that when he finally does make a statement, he gets his entire royal guard killed and himself kidnapped. He makes such a great impression on the Guardian that he isn't allowed to stay in the afterlife. I was so hoping to leave him there so his sister could be in charge.
EDIT: tablet and autocorrect that doesn'tEdited by JKorr on September 28, 2020 2:30AM11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Generic is the one who irritated me the most. How many of his people end up dead, tortured and dead, turned into vampires, and had their homes destroyed be wise King Emeric can't make a decision?
He takes the first random stranger wandering by, sends them out to fix things and wade through rivers of blood to finally pick who will be his subordinate ruler. He is so pointless that when he finally does make a statement, he gets his entire royal guard kill and himself kidnapped. He makes such a great impression on the Guardian that he isn't allowed to stay in the afterlife. I was so hoping to leave him there so his sister could be in charge.
and he is an awful AWFUL husband to boot (his spinelessness rears its ugly head there as well). I stayed around listening to him talking to his queen after finishing the story and just... UGH. UGH.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Generic is the one who irritated me the most. How many of his people end up dead, tortured and dead, turned into vampires, and had their homes destroyed be wise King Emeric can't make a decision?
He takes the first random stranger wandering by, sends them out to fix things and wade through rivers of blood to finally pick who will be his subordinate ruler. He is so pointless that when he finally does make a statement, he gets his entire royal guard kill and himself kidnapped. He makes such a great impression on the Guardian that he isn't allowed to stay in the afterlife. I was so hoping to leave him there so his sister could be in charge.
and he is an awful AWFUL husband to boot (his spinelessness rears its ugly head there as well). I stayed around listening to him talking to his queen after finishing the story and just... UGH. UGH.
It really says something when Emeric literally fought a war over marrying his wife instead of Ranser's daughter and yet he still ignores her advice about Alikr and runs after old flame Septims Tharn.3 -
d0e1ow✭✭✭✭I can't stand Emeric. I was Daggerfall Covenant when I first started the game but switched to Aldmeri Dominion long ago due to how much I disliked King Emeric."Her mystery was as essential to her as savagery was to Boethiah or treachery was to Molag Bal. To understand Nocturnal is to negate her, to pull back the curtains cloaking her realm of darkness." - Sigillah Parate "Invocation of Azura"1 -
Deter1UK✭✭✭✭✭and he is an awful AWFUL husband to boot (his spinelessness rears its ugly head there as well). I stayed around listening to him talking to his queen after finishing the story and just... UGH. UGH.
Well done the writers for making supporting characters difficult.
Literature is packed with people like this - and worse
If I were to summarise the plot of Shakespeare's "Titus Andronicus " for example I would probably get my account banned!
It makes for much more interesting stories.Edited by Deter1UK on September 28, 2020 12:00AM3
