hakan wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

hakan wrote: »

ZarkingFrued wrote: »

Gankers have it extremely easy in this game. Its insanely easy to pull off a gank on ESO, to the point where it's not even impressive.. Stamblade is literally top tier right now, and they just added a buff set for snipe right after making proc sets way overtuned. Is there something I'm missing?

just cuz you died in your pve gear doesnt make it easy dude. try yourself against non potatos.

Yep, it's easy. Stealth causes desync and cc delay.

with that logic

stam sorc is way too easy even easier(it already is lul) then nb cuz streak stun is unblocakble and with desync, lag you die before you break free.

same for toppling charge, cant break free but you are stunned even before the templar hits you. cant free until then.

knockbacks, knockdowns are same too. thats one of the reasons why they removed it from dizzy.

There is a difference between desync during calculation phases and simple latency issues. The desync @FENGRUSH is talking about is improper calculations happening that cause a difference between the serverside and clientside calculations. Zos still hasnt found out the issue with invis that is happening. The last time we saw this issue was when Gottbeard and I worked out a similar calculation issue serverside on some cast timed abilities that was off by a factor of 2 which essentially said you took 10k damage >death on the server side vs taking only 5k damage client side> alive. This issue was reverse of what we see where the player should have died but they stayed alive with 0 or negative hp regardless of any amount of other incoming damage.

Sure if there is a server wide delay of XXX ping than any cc break will feel broken since the input you made has the possibility of not going through causing you to not break out> time wasted until you realize the server *** itself > then you press break free again.

I never looked into the issue we see with invis, but it looks similar to what we saw a few patches ago with cast timed abilities described above. Not saying desync and lag arent annoying or one is more annoying than another, but the issues are different.

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Toppling has the issue of the animation being late from what is actually happening, but the break free oportunity is synced to the animation timing not the actual stun timing. Javelin has this same issue. Dodge roll has a similar issue where the immunity isnt synced to the animation.

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imo the random nontelegraphed offbalance stun that causes you to slide across the floor for up to 3-4 gcds is worse than not being able to move while still in midair even if you break free. The main reason dizzy was changed was because onslaught became too strong originally and instead of reverting that terrible change, they tried nerfing dizzy first. Before the onslaught change dizzy was rarely used compared to reverb or master dw builds.

Good. Ganking shouldn't even be a thing in ESO...nor bomb builds for that matter.

Zelos wrote: »

Fantalior wrote: »

He why nerf gankers in each patch?

At first: the nerf grimfocus - 8%
- Balorgh for 50% but they give a vampskill to help (is ok? maybe) -50%
- then they nerf mundusstone down -2%
- they make Titanborn Strength useless -15% ( Strength of the Automaton)
- now the hard NB nerf Master Assassin at first from a percentage (%) to 258 and now no Damage -> is now penetration, this is not correctly
- and the nerf of Minor Berserk to 5% -3%

Please buff Balorgh, this set should put 150% of ultikosts to damage 500 ulti= 725 damage. This would be better in PVP all in all because if you use a cheap ulti this set is useless then it is better to have 1 item from Balorgh and 1 other damage set.
Ore buff Automaton (Strength of the Automaton) because War Maiden the counterpart in magicka has also been improved

If you wanna know why people have 35k plus health and others cant kill them anymore, its because of gankers. This results in fights last a lot longer and causing more lag to the server then there should be. Yes Gankers are annoying but that alone isnt why they are getting nerfed, its because a small portion of the player base that does gank makes players keep raising their health to stop getting one shotted with no counterplay, which keeps enabling a tankier and tankier meta with more and more health. To which people like you and others will come on and complain about without realizing that the playstyle of ganking to which you do is the soul reason for players to keep uping their health and tankiness:)

this is not entirely true, the 35khp standard that most people run at is due to two build paths being popular.

1. Proc builds where stats really mean nothing other than pen and hp
2. Meta stat efficiencies present. ie: triglyphs+sugarskulls+infused big pieces+5/1/1

Higher hp pools also give more response time as a sort of buffer zone during lag. Generally lag is so bad that so long as you can get atleast one heal ability off, nomatter how low hp you are there is a good chance you will be able to survive.

Sahidom wrote: »

Maybe the OP gank build but the extra Penetration change is actually good for gank builds because you need that to drop some staggering killing hits. They have tried to rain that in but have not been all successful; I could point you to a build that stills one shots players and it will get better Update 28. I'm all for people moving into high health builds b/c it will drop their offense potential even with proc sets.

agreed, many people also dont realize that we are in a huge proc meta. Only a few things affect procs, %damage or %mit being changed is one massive difference. Pen being boosted beyond belief is also another.

Nocp pvp is likely to become impossible to play without running into a proc user