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quester immunity
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Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »I will just say it takes 0 effort to not be a jerk and not ruin the days of some casual players.
Sadly, too many players say "oh, but this is a PvP zone, so I am entitled to do this". As we've seen before, zos give you the choice to be an arse, but whether you take it or not, that's up to you....
If your idea of a good time is to make someone else miserable, your life is lacking something.4 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »I will just say it takes 0 effort to not be a jerk and not ruin the days of some casual players.
Sadly, too many players say "oh, but this is a PvP zone, so I am entitled to do this". As we've seen before, zos give you the choice to be an arse, but whether you take it or not, that's up to you....
If your idea of a good time is to make someone else miserable, your life is lacking something.
Same can be said about the PvE Fanatics as well.5 -
Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »How about make the interior of the buildings where quest givers are sanctuary zones and add an item you can buy for a certain amount of AP such as 10k or 20k provide temporary 5 minute sanctuary upon consumption?
Going into an enemy keep while this is active would remove the effect as to not be exploited.
I like the idea of this but also making it work for Cyrodiil Delves. The reason why is well sometimes you go in to clear a skyshard and well some enemy player is there and at times have to make sure to avoid them or get well killed if they attack you. So for those purposes I would support this item that way delve achievement and skyshard farmers would have protection from being butchered and having to travel all the way back to the delve only to be killed again. Though it should only work in those kinds of areas.
Open world still will be fair game to getting killed by other players. All it would do is protect you at quest locations and then the delves. Open world quest locations should be a certain feet away from a quest npc and that npc has a protection circle leave that circle and still get killed by other players. So it won't just be active everywhere just in some locations. That way its not exploited. Oh while having it active you can't attack other players for the duration or lose it. So that would be another draw back.
Edited by Thevampirenight on April 8, 2020 7:38AMPC NA
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bearbelly✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Thevampirenight wrote: »TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »How about make the interior of the buildings where quest givers are sanctuary zones and add an item you can buy for a certain amount of AP such as 10k or 20k provide temporary 5 minute sanctuary upon consumption?
Going into an enemy keep while this is active would remove the effect as to not be exploited.
I like the idea of this but also making it work for Cyrodiil Delves. The reason why is well sometimes you go in to clear a skyshard and well some enemy player is there and at times have to make sure to avoid them or get well killed if they attack you. So for those purposes I would support this item that way delve achievement and skyshard farmers would have protection from being butchered and having to travel all the way back to the delve only to be killed again. Though it should only work in those kinds of areas.
Open world still will be fair game to getting killed by other players. All it would do is protect you at quest locations and then the delves. Open world quest locations should be a certain feet away from a quest npc and that npc has a protection circle leave that circle and still get killed by other players. So it won't just be active everywhere just in some locations. That way its not exploited. Oh while having it active you can't attack other players for the duration or lose it. So that would be another draw back.
Nope. Not the delves. That's a step too far.
Making the quest turn-in buildings a safe zone would be one thing, but the delves in a PvP zone should retain the level of risk that is endemic to the zone.
If people are going to go into a PvP zone to do PvE quests, then they need to take on some responsibility and prepare themselves for some adversity. It doesn't take that much effort, and it's not difficult to do.
Expecting complete immunity for choosing to enter a PvP zone is asking too much.
And I'm a PvEer.5 -
Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well... Atleast cyro is like 10% of the game, so you still have 90% left of places where we cant do you nothing, why not just stay there lol3 -
madman65✭✭✭✭Then take the achievements away, I don`t like having an incomplete character on the achievements.1 -
madman65✭✭✭✭There is a Telvar Gathering Tank Build out there. You are basically unkillable, although you can't really do any damage. But you can absorb damage all day long if you keep your rotation going.
That is the best revenge against gankers, not dying. They will leave you alone once their fingers start cramping.
I`m guessing that you are referring to Imperial Physique, this set is for Imperial city.Edited by madman65 on April 8, 2020 8:14AM0 -
Monte_Cristo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have a rule when I quest in towns during special events.
I don't attack the questers.
Though if they attack me or other AD players or the flag guardians they are toast!
If by any chance you attacked the poor NPCs guarding the flags, you deserve what you got.
The guards at the central flag in Vlas and Cropsford are fair game, since they prevent players from turning in quests. But fliping the flag over to your faction is a sign that you're pvping, so you're fair game then, too. Just kill the guards and turn in the quest.3 -
Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭They should make something called "PvPer immunity" too immortality outside cyrodiil 😂Edited by Karmanorway on April 8, 2020 9:45AM2 -
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Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »WuffyCerulei wrote: »I will just say it takes 0 effort to not be a jerk and not ruin the days of some casual players.
Sadly, too many players say "oh, but this is a PvP zone, so I am entitled to do this". As we've seen before, zos give you the choice to be an arse, but whether you take it or not, that's up to you....
If your idea of a good time is to make someone else miserable, your life is lacking something.
Same can be said about the PvE Fanatics as well.
Oh wow, a gotcha moment.
I didn't specify PvP or PvE, did I. In fact, I didn't even specify gamers.
Guilty conscience?0 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »How about make the interior of the buildings where quest givers are sanctuary zones and add an item you can buy for a certain amount of AP such as 10k or 20k provide temporary 5 minute sanctuary upon consumption?
Going into an enemy keep while this is active would remove the effect as to not be exploited.
I think that's just inviting abuse by PvPers who aren't questing but just want to get out of trouble.1 -
Flaaklypa✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »If you don't want to do PVP, stay out of PVP areas. It's just that simple!
this^^1 -
Dovakhan✭✭✭This again, how boring.
First of all, for all those "OMG THIZ IZ A PIVIPI ZONE OMG LOL GET OUTAAA HERE NOOB!": Like it or not, it's a MIXED PVP/PVE zone. Get that fact already once and for all.
Second of all: "OMG LOLZ UZE INVISZ POTIONSZZS!": Yeah, do try to use them in the middle of combat against NPC's, see if you can.
And third of all: learn to respect those who only want to PvE in that MIXED zone, and maybe you'll get some respect back.
Personally, I'd go for a small PvE-only server set in Cyrodiil and the IC and be done with this stupid drama already. PvE'rs would be happy, and PvP'ers as well, maybe except those "heroes" who likes to hunt PvE'rs which have no voice in this debate anyway, for obvious reasons.
Or at least do that in the IC. That'd be something already. I'll admit that Cyrodiil may be a bit more PvP-designed, but the IC is purely a PvE zone where they put one stupid flag per district and called it a PvP area. Heck, they wouldn't even have to change anything lore-story wise if they just added a few Alliance NPC's fighting each other here and there for the players to kill.
And as for Tel Vars...I'd just leave them the way they're in the PvE IC server (killing NPC's give you some, etc). That way it'd be balanced between PvE'rs needing Tel Vars not having the need to go to PvP servers, and PvP servers having more risk-reward gains. Again, everybody would be happy.Edited by Dovakhan on September 13, 2020 10:05PM1 -
Gaggin✭✭✭✭ZOS please give pvpers immunity in pve zones! There i was, minding my own business looking for some sweet pvp action in kynes aegis and all of the sudden Yandir ganks me! Totally unfair...2
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Dovakhan✭✭✭ZOS please give pvpers immunity in pve zones! There i was, minding my own business looking for some sweet pvp action in kynes aegis and all of the sudden Yandir ganks me! Totally unfair...
And fourth of all, stop being **** ridiculous and infantile like that, and let people to play the way they want.
If you want PvP in PvE zones, that's what duels are for, where BOTH players agree to fight each other. But leave people to mind their own business if they don't wanna fight or play with you.Edited by Dovakhan on September 13, 2020 10:07PM3 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭mozers1908b16_ESO wrote: »ZOS please give questers immunity of some kind in Cyrodil. im sick and tired of getting ganked by [snip] just because im there questing. i leave people alone in do my thing yet they feel the need to ambush and attack for no reason, so far ive been done in by 3 playes some more than once even though i didnt fight back. one inside a quest hub, i left him alone and how did i get repaid? oh right i got ganked instead of left alone. i tried running but nope this [snip] just kept doing the [snip] spear then continued his own questing!!! rude to say the least. scummy yes..... this needs to stop. all factions do it granted but it still needs to stop. all some people want to do is quest quietly and not get abused and ganked by [snip] on a pvp trip.
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I'm sorry that you feel bad, but that is how it works inside a PvP zone.. It's annoying as hell, but it's the name of the game in there.. I would never vote for a quester immunity, even though I am a hardcore PvE player..0 -
Dovakhan✭✭✭
Also, forgive me if I miss something, but if the topic is still relevant and nothing has changed ever since the first creation of the post, then what's exactly the difference between resurrecting a discussion and creating a new one?
if answer = null, then stop posting stupid necromantic pics already.0 -
abzdeman✭✭✭Just get pvp items and fight back you'd be surprised how many people run away because their zergs aren't there to back them up. I loved the cyrodil questing0
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redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If you're going into a PvP zone to do nothing related to fight other players you still need to equip pvp gear, relocate your cp (only costs 3k gold) and slot (some, at least) different abilities > you won't die easily when you may encounter other players and you will still manage to do PvE quests.
Other option you have, if you're trying to avoid combat, is to try to do the quests in a low population campaign or at low population hours of the day (earlier in the morning or late at night > ALWAYS outside the prime time hours).
Don't forget, invisibility pots are your friend if you think you can't confront the other player(s) at some point.Edited by redlink1979 on September 14, 2020 9:58AM"Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
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- Bacon Rats | Silverlight Brotherhood | Canis Root Tea Party | Vincula Doloris [PC][NA] 2300 CP
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Dovakhan✭✭✭redlink1979 wrote: »If you're going into a PvP zone to do nothing related to fight other players you still need to equip pvp gear, relocate your cp (only costs 3k gold) and slot (some, at least) different abilities > you won't die easily when you may encounter other players and you will still manage to do PvE quests.
Other option you have, if you're trying to avoid combat, is to try to do the quests in a low population campaign or at low population hours of the day (earlier in the morning or late at night > ALWAYS outside the prime time hours).
Don't forget, invisibility pots are your friend if you think you can't confront the other player(s) at some point.
Nice. Now our turn to tell you how you're supposed to play the game. Please do tell me what you don't like, and I'll insist on you playing it.
Let me guess: surely questing. So go ahead, create a PvE build, learn all of the TES lore, and enjoy every bit of dialogue out there. After all, story mode is basically 95% of the game's content. So be sure to do ALL of it.
People definitely must be talking some kind of Alien language every time anyone says that the IC is both a PvP and a PvE zone, because seemingly that little notion doesn't get hold on anyone's brain apparently.Edited by Dovakhan on September 14, 2020 10:05AM0 -
redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nice. Now our turn to tell you how you're supposed to play the game. Please do tell me what you don't like, and I'll insist on you playing it.
Let me guess: surely questing. (...)
Ranting comment, why?
Your assumptions are wrong.
And I like to play all the content, PvE and PvP.
I got no issues/problems besides the lag.
"Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
- Daggerfall's Mightiest | Eternal Champions | Legacy | Tamriel Melting Pot [PS][NA] 2300 CP
- SweetTrolls | Spring Rose | Daggerfall Royal Legion | Tinnitus Delux [PC][EU] 2525 CP
- Bacon Rats | Silverlight Brotherhood | Canis Root Tea Party | Vincula Doloris [PC][NA] 2300 CP
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Dovakhan✭✭✭redlink1979 wrote: »Nice. Now our turn to tell you how you're supposed to play the game. Please do tell me what you don't like, and I'll insist on you playing it.
Let me guess: surely questing. (...)
Ranting comment, why?
Your assumptions are wrong.
And I like to play all the content, PvE and PvP.
I got no issues/problems besides the lag.
So, would you have complied anyway even if you didn't liked questing indeed? Good to know.0
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