Are Zos having a flipping laugh?

Theyve made the mag set into stam and the stam set into mag... WTF Zos. At least keep the mag set as Infiltrator for goodness sake!

Could you screw over players any more? The farms for these sets, the Undaunted Infiltrator set in particular (cos you really need a shock staff), has been for a great many people, an absolute nightmare. I've ran Arx Corinium in excess of 300 times, probably closer to 400 times. NEVER ONCE DROPPED SHOCK STAFF.

This farm became a thing of principle for me, I dont even care about using the set anymore, cos my version of the "Easy Sorc" is so different now anyway its my own thing. Funnily enough its become a running joke in my guild, that I keep running this dungeon with no success and that obviously eventually Infiltrator would get changed by Zos. Well now it has and I feel like writing a list of expletives a mile long.

Off to make a cuppa and calm down.

I think you didn't understand what I said. Here it is again:

"For people like me using gear similar to the Xynode Easy Mode Sorc vids"

I didn't say I play exactly like the build and I definitely have never LA weaved at all or even close to it.

I, like many others, started with the Xynode video for build advice. I used the gear and not much else. I learned a lot about the game over time and became pretty good at theorycrafting and putting together my own skills that I like to use and a playstyle that's easy to play but still powerful enough to pass almost everything in the game. I have what I feel is an "Easier mode sorc" or "Easiest mode sorc" build where I use a few AOE skills and just heavy attack. His build at this point really is not easy at all. Both in gear needed and in light attack weaving. I'm sure it's great for DPS if you use exactly what his last build recommended but he should seriously change the name at this point.

Luckily for me I already had 2 Infallible Aether lightning staffs and the jewelry too. So I just farmed Blackheart and got the Undaunted Unweaver armor and it took maybe a day. I just have to transmute a couple things and I'm basically back to the same gear as before. Although using Unweaver instead of the old version of Infiltrator adds another 4% crit chance and the heavy attack buff was raised a good amount also. So for people switching sets like I did I'd expect your DPS to increase with everything else staying the same. I just wish I could avoid having to cast an annoying stam ability to proc a buff for a mag character. Pretty stupid if you ask me. I don't want to use a single stam skill that exists in this game but yet I'm forced to now to play the way I want to.

ZOS, you can do better than this. Change the proc on Unweaver to a mag ability like it was on Infiltrator or get rid of it altogether! I'm not one yet, but there are people who can't physically LA weave, don't want a stam skill on their 1 bar, and you're making it more difficult for them to have a viable build that they can use to pass most of the game content.

Yeah combining Undaunted Unweaver and Noble Duelist seemed like a pretty decent go to for replacing IA for these type of builds, especially for those that are comfortable with weaving a few Light Attacks in.

Ignore, answered wrong thread.

Yeah, everything's been slotted to stam dps for years. Just look at all the skills and all the sets. I care barely find skills worth using as a mag sorc dps. Oh well, some day maybe they'll make comparable gear to stam for mag. There are stam sets that buff heavy attacks a lot more than mag sets do and some you don't even need to proc. I really hope they reverse this stupid decision to have Unwearver proc. with a stam-using skill. Trap is a weak waste of time and I don't want to cast it but am forced to. This game is becoming less fun to play every update.

Celestro wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

@malistorr I can certainly sympathise.
Thinking about it I came up with 4 different options for you.
1) Circle of Protection. the minor protection and endurance buff are really good if you have to go melee. Plus you get a small heal.
2) Barbed Trap. Come on, keep an open mind! DOT plus buff is really nice.
3) Crushing Weapon. The Stamina morph heals you for a bit and if not used you get about half the stamina cost back! That makes it much less inconvenient to use. Plus you can use it on the front bar to proc crystal frags.
4) Echoing Vigor I mean come on! It is the most useful stamina support skill. Even as a magsorc you can get a lot of out of it!

Crushing Weapons wouldn't proc Crystal Frags since its a stamina ability.

Right! Ahhh!
I made a BooBoo and posted it!

Your comment that all builds need Minor Force is just plain wrong, sorry. It may be desirable to have but not at the expense of actually doing damage for a DPS. I've never used either of those skills and have done very well playing. This is a heavy attack build. Not a crit chance and crit damage increase build like almost every cookie cutter copycat build is these days. I'm not Alcast and I don't use Mother's Sorrow. And I heavy attack and don't have sustain issues. For my build, the only things that really matter is that I stay alive and can buff my heavy attack as much as possible. This is NOT a light attack weaving crit build.

Sorcs have no points in stamina and no gear giving stamina or recovery. So just running a few feet and I feel like I'm out to stam or I literally am. I don't even have enough to break free from things in Cyrodil in PVP fights. I get trapped all the time, because most stam players play exactly the same way, and can't move or get out. So now I have to use my non-existent stam just to get a DPS buff that should be given without any proc condition at all like in many stam sets. Why not have us use a skill that takes a resource we have 400% more of. We're left with too little stam as it is to effectively play. Having basic game functions like break and roll use stam is already giving a huge unfair advantage to stam characters vs. mag. I swear every dev plays the game and uses stam characters so they enjoy screwing anyone using a sorc or other mag character.

I am using Trap. It's the only option really. I love playing a game where the dev dictates exactly how you play. This is the 1st game where I'm told how I have to play. I hope they know that they've further excluded anyone with physical limitations or sore hands from being able to play the game effectively. Some people needed to use 1 bar and mostly just heavy attack to play. Now they have to slot a weak stam skill on an already overcrowded 1-bar to get a buff they need to try and pass even basic content. I just don't get it. These decision make no logical sense at all. I guess they're all working from home and are just in coast mode so they're not really putting any effort into the game except to push out more buggy content in an attempt to raise the stock price.

I'm familiar with those sets and they buff heavy attack a small fraction as much as using the 2 sets I'm currently using. Roaring is good for trials but I personally wouldn't ever wear it because my heavy attack damage would drop too much.

Most mag characters are not in melee range because of the light armor and range dps that they're intended to be. That immediately throws out just about all of what you suggested but thank you for the comments anyway. I heavy attack from far away and there are much better sets than Zaan for that. Even if I was going to stay close I'd probably use Grothdar instead. And I don't use a lot of the skills you mentioned.

This post is starting to go pretty far off topic so I'm going to abandon it and just hope that they reverse the horrible decision about changing the proc condition that used to be using a magic based skill for Undaunted Infiltrator to using a stam skill.
For now I'll just trap because I have no choice to otherwise play the way I want to and make it a viable play style. I really which this company would stop trying to force everyone into LA weaving and using just a few sets to be able to pass end game content. Oh well, I guess expecting intelligent and common sense decisions can't be expected these days.