TineaCruris wrote: »

Myrddin1357 wrote: »

It seems strange so many people find the performance during MYM better. That has not been my experience at all. Although I do not spend a lot of time in cyrodiil outside of MYM, I do take all my 8 characters to Tier 3 every month. During MYM I spend all my game time in cyrodiil.

MYM performance and peak hour performance outside MYM are both terrible for me. I can't say one is much better than the other.

I do notice slightly better performance during off peak hours outside of MYM. During MYM, prime time or not my skills won't fire at all half the time. Press H to mount takes a full 3 to 5 second before my horse appear and I mount. It is absolutely not an acceptable level of performance.

Any thing ZOS tries to address this is good news based on my experience.

It seemed worse to you during the event because you actually spent time there for a change.

The people who spend nearly 100% of their play time in cyro are not lying about the performance.

Definitely didn't think anyone was lying lol. Was just sharing my experience. As a PVE player who was reluctant to go to PVP at all in the beginning, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it when i did spend some time there. I would spend a lot more time there if performance wasn't so horrible for me. Sure there are some issues with pve with quest and dungeon glitches but cyrodiil is a whole another level of non-functional. Lag is one issue but also other stuff like never ending combat mode that prevents mounting until i find a way to kill myself. The aggravation of all these things outweighed the fun for me.

I do hope for the sake all pvpers they find some solution that works. It's a big part of ESO and it is a shame it is such a mess.

TineaCruris wrote: »

We still haven't gotten an answer on this.

What was done that improved midyear mayhem performance?

Why can't we do what ever that was on a permanent basis?

This would be a step in the right direction, but even during this time performance was not great. It would be adequate for about the first hour of play, but as time went on performance deteriorated. By hour 2 it became almost unplayable. Keep battles were like watching a slideshow.

Why is it good then and trash now? that's simple

during MYM zos allocated the server resources from dungons, trials and areans to cyro..the trade off is..dungons, trials and areans were literally unplayable due to the sheer lag.

Yep that long downtime was them pulling resources from the PvP zone servers, basically it seems to prove that infact it can be ran well without changing/ruining the whole way combat works but they won't because of sheckles

TineaCruris wrote: »

We know things did not improve because the player make-up in the main campaign because it was swamped with PvE players. In the main campaign, only the hardcore PvP'ers were willing to sit through the que. So in Grey Host, the player make up did not change significantly as compared to non event player make up.

It certainly appears that they did a temporary server upgrade of some kind and that is what improved performance.

Why can't we get the MYM performance full time? Why can't we revert to what ever changes were made to make the MYM event work smoothy on a full time basis?

An short term hardware update does not make sense. Pretty sure Amazon run an default server as for most stuff like web pages and cloud applications you can simply use load balancing between servers. This also works for ESO, overland, dungeons, trials, and BG are just instances on an lots of servers.

This does not work for Cyrodil who is one large instance so here you can only use one server for each campaign.
Say they switched to stronger servers, now why should they switch back and do all the costly development and testing ending up doing nerfs who can drive lots of players away from the game.
It does not make economical sense, its just 3 servers after all. You can buy an 100 core monster for around $50K.
This assume you can install custom servers

More likely you got plenty of pve players or others not primary after the large ball group fights who is hardest for the server, they got in early and stayed for some time. Also guess plenty of PvP players stayed out because the queues or farmed emperors on other campaigns, its not like they needed AP hard anyway.

Again I point to the client in the room.
In short if you get serious problems watching an Alkir dolmen zerg during prime time well Cyrodil on an pop locked campaign don't work for you same as an <10k dps player in an vet dlc.
Now this again is complex:
1) Yes it plenty of players with high end rigs who has problems, probably because some weird bu but,
2) Most PC players set up their game to look good and run smooth overland out of combat. Consoles probably set similar.
Now in large fights this don't work well, lots of console players has serious issues in large MoL trash fights.
Same with Cyrodil, now having lower graphic settings for trials and Cyrodil would probably solve a lot of this.
On PC this would be an secondary graphic setting tab.
Next gen consoles will be an paradise for them unless ZoS try to force 4K or other stupid moves.
Again move out trials and Cyrodil to an separate graphic setting.

ZOS bought a 4th server hamster for Midyear Mayhem. shortly after MYM finished, the hamster expired, and they didn't replace it so now we're back to 3 again.

Exercise: take a look at a crown exchange discord sometime. Count the amount of crowns exchanged in an hour’s time (hint: it will be thousands of dollars’ worth). Multiply that by the number of crown discords that exist (there are several). Add on a couple hundred dollars’ worth for the crown exchanges that happen each hour outside of discord-facilitated trades. Ask yourself: how many purchases of actual gameplay (trials, dungeon DLCs, story expansions, PVP DLCs (oh wait there aren’t any), etc.) would it take to equal even a quarter of all that money being exchanged per hour for mere cosmetics?

At this point in its life cycle, ESO is not a video game. It is a cosmetic microtansaction store with various PVE and PVP mini-games attached.

Could we please stop falling for the same old story of slow servers? The processing power in the year 2020 is more than enough to handle those calculations. And it was enough before some patches ruined it.

It's a programming error, maybe not easy to fix, but clearly a software problem.