The Elder Scrolls Online

brianzim87 · July 2020

solasub wrote: »

So imagine you live in an house where there are some broken pipes ; and so, the water compagny announce that they will cut off the water to check what are the issues ; and you just say .... "No"...

Those are TESTS ; it's not changes announced to be perma ; it won't be in pve ;
tho, it seems 50% of the people post here without even reading the OP from Zos. They all begin to scream and cry, even some pve players (l2read issues it seems...) for something that is clearly described to a way to test and get some datas...........

It's good news that Zos look at the pvp issues, and good news that they will try to make tests on live (pvp on pts is useless to test it) ; and omg it feels so good to have finally an official speech about those aoe cancer groups!!

So what people want? to continue like this, with unplayable pvp 50% of the time, and crying in the forums but refusing the tests and the cure?
Anyway atm, with the lag, my dizzy, between 6 and 12 pm, has a 20 seconds cooldown minimum lmao.

Man, I see what you're trying to say, but come on. Changing the game play thats been around for years to fix lag seems like an illogical route to take. MyM the servers ran pretty well. Im guessing it has to do with redistribution of server resources and/or adding more temporarily. Why not try adding some permanently. I'm aware this is just speculation but who know. Maybe it will help. I still feel like this isnt going to impact ball groups the way everyone expects it to. I just feel like they'll shift group composition, playing around the cooldown, and become even harder for chaotic zergs and casuals to kill. Don't start counting your chickens man.

zaria · July 2020

solasub wrote: »

So imagine you live in an house where there are some broken pipes ; and so, the water compagny announce that they will cut off the water to check what are the issues ; and you just say .... "No"...

Those are TESTS ; it's not changes announced to be perma ; it won't be in pve ;
tho, it seems 50% of the people post here without even reading the OP from Zos. They all begin to scream and cry, even some pve players (l2read issues it seems...) for something that is clearly described to a way to test and get some datas...........

It's good news that Zos look at the pvp issues, and good news that they will try to make tests on live (pvp on pts is useless to test it) ; and omg it feels so good to have finally an official speech about those aoe cancer groups!!

So what people want? to continue like this, with unplayable pvp 50% of the time, and crying in the forums but refusing the tests and the cure?
Anyway atm, with the lag, my dizzy, between 6 and 12 pm, has a 20 seconds cooldown minimum lmao.

This is the wrong way to look at it.
The way we learned is how to react then government want to take away a vacation week to "improve economy". You don't wait for it to pass trough committees you do an general strike to kick the idea down the idea ASAP.

And unless ZOS does an public 180 degree change of policy the mother of all nerfs will hit PvE too.

As posted in other tread, almost all my most memorable moments in ESO has been in Cyrodil.
But making it an PvE zone is an better option than anything on the list.

Had a lot of fun during midyear mayhem, non issues, yes mostly on an overflow server with guild.
Or baby leveling an second necro who was a bit weird.

solasub · July 2020

@brianzim87 "Man"?????

ahah one more who has not enough women around him to figure out that 50% of the world is not a "man"

zaria · July 2020

solasub wrote: »

@brianzim87 "Man"?????

ahah one more who have not enough women around him to figure out that 50% of the world is not a "man"

True, however, human will *** off all the elves of sort, Orcs, Khajiit and Argonians who is probably more than 50%
Probably have some goblins scream at you too but they can be ignored.

brianzim87 · July 2020

solasub wrote: »

@brianzim87 "Man"?????

ahah one more who has not enough women around him to figure out that 50% of the world is not a "man"

WOOOW. Even my wife laughed at this. She says man all the time. Its an expressive phrase not met to place you in a gender roll. When she bumps her toe.. AGH maaan!! That hurt. Words are arbitrary anyway. Im not even the slightest bit sorry lol. She says dude too come to think of it.

*edit*
Also reminds me of bartending when instead of saying hey yall (not from texas but i live here) I say hey guys. All the women at the table go.. uuugh.. GUYS?! We aren't men!

Lets just take it a step further and remove all masculine and feminine influences on nearly all latin derived languages while we're at it.

solasub · July 2020

@brianzim87 no pb sis

Tigerseye · July 2020

You know why they're almost certainly really doing this, right?

To stop people making as much gold from Soul Spitting Trap...

brianzim87 · July 2020

solasub wrote: »

@brianzim87 no pb sis

Aye mira! Que delicada!

xWarbrain · July 2020

JamuThatsWho wrote: »

Counter-suggestion; scale AoE damage to the amount of players targeted.

The more players you hit, the higher you hit them all for.

Let us 1-shot ball groups, completely disrupt it as a form of gameplay, and fix the server issues ourselves.

Lol you don't understand what a ball group is. Or proxy det for that matter (which does exactly what you described and was implemented specifically to take down groups... how'd that work out?)

You are are literally suggesting that a change should be made that will inevitably make ball groups stronger.

None of these AoE changes are going to prevent an organized group from farming large groups of meta players over and over and over. As long as there are large zergs, there will be smaller, more organized groups there to wipe them out, regardless of any changes made to prevent it.

Everyone has access to the same skills, sets, classes and combinations of such. Ball groups are just using them more efficiently.

brianzim87 · July 2020

xWarbrain wrote: »

JamuThatsWho wrote: »

Counter-suggestion; scale AoE damage to the amount of players targeted.

The more players you hit, the higher you hit them all for.

Let us 1-shot ball groups, completely disrupt it as a form of gameplay, and fix the server issues ourselves.

Lol you don't understand what a ball group is. Or proxy det for that matter (which does exactly what you described and was implemented specifically to take down groups... how'd that work out?)

You are are literally suggesting that a change should be made that will inevitably make ball groups stronger.

None of these AoE changes are going to prevent an organized group from farming large groups of meta players over and over and over. As long as there are large zergs, there will be smaller, more organized groups there to wipe them out, regardless of any changes made to prevent it.

Everyone has access to the same skills, sets, classes and combinations of such. Ball groups are just using them more efficiently.

DING DING DING!!! Thank you. This is what people are missing some how.

ealdwin · July 2020

Tigerseye wrote: »

You know why they're almost certainly really doing this, right?

To stop people making as much gold from Soul Spitting Trap...

This does make me wonder what the differences between Ground AOE abilities and AOE applied DOTs are in terms of server calculations. (Such as Elemental Blockade vs. Soul Splitting Trap.

I would imagine that the latter would be less intensive in general, since it does not have to constantly check whether the target is in an AOE or not.