PvP in ESO, what killed you?

Thunderclap · July 2020

lag or the new slow down bug

NeillMcAttack · July 2020

S&B stamwardens!!

Knockmaker · July 2020

Lag, desynch, hence the abilities not going off. Sometimes I just give up and wait to die.

But, if I were obliged to say something different, I'd say oils. They really hurt after the latest changes.

EvilAutoTech · July 2020

I was with a Pact group that was attacking Aleswell. I don't know how the Covenant got so may players inside there, but the fight went on for quite a while. After about 10 minutes or so, the game crashed. It took two tries to get back in and when I did, I was the only Red left. It did not look like any of the Blues were disconnected. Needless to say, I was resurrecting at another keep seconds later.

So I wasn't actually killed by the disconnect, just by facing a 20:1 situation. That doesn't even count the guards who had all respawned. I was standing just in front of the front door when this happened.

Mrtoobyy · July 2020

Xargas13 wrote: »

Everyone tries to be funny these days... As for OP, you describe it as it's a good thing, it very well could be, but I don't think it has a place in RPG genre, now most defensive abilities are not even worth firing up, since now it is who will kill faster, most defensive abilities are now obsolete, they may as well remove them. I prefer a mix of both action and tactics, which we had to some extent before this "awesome" patch, now it's MMOFPS with abilities.

This!
Well put sir. I could not agree more.

The_Lex · July 2020

2 things:

1) lag/performance - this by far

2) I made a mistake - either I pushed too hard/fast or failed to watch my surroundings (tunnel vision).

DUTCH_REAPER · July 2020

The answer is ZOS.

Vinterskald · July 2020

Well... honestly? Zone chat being filled with people mindlessly insulting each other, group chat being a mess because some person yells at the group leader for not wanting to join a fight where we'd be ridiculously outnumbered, me gleefully running after the person of my alliance who's wielding Volendrung only to see them willingly be killed by a player of the opposing faction that's pushing for Emperor... that's when I just give up, respawn at base, and take a minute to breathe and get some tea before I join back into the fight

I know people say it's not a good trait to have when you want to PvP, but I honestly can't handle mean people, which then usually results in me tiring out of combat and getting myself killed.

Aside from that, I get killed by pretty much everything and everyone, I play a squishy healer after all. The only time I win 1v1s is when my enemy is either very inexperienced or forgot that critical resistance is a thing at all

I've gotten better at surviving this Midyear Mayhem, but once I run out of stam and get CC'd, I'm done for

Bradyfjord · July 2020

ScardyFox wrote: »

Stuhns dizzying swing fest usually - its the newsest cheese.

It works for a lot of abilities.

Kram8ion · July 2020

Ima sucker for chase and its usually ends badly or racing into fights on my glass cannon just for the slight inconvenience I’ll be to a tanky ball group on the flag

Oh and jabs

MincVinyl · July 2020

holden_caulfield wrote: »

Hope is pertinent.
Many times my death recap lists a bunch of skills that hit me but on my monitor I don't see any effect that shows those incoming attack and I just find myself dead.

Can it be lag? If so has anyone experience with gaming vpn?

No amount of vpn that gets you 1ms better connection will save you from zos's server that takes 150ms to process one calculation.....Issue is out of our control. All we can do is hope zos actually reinvests back into the game with all of the money we spent on them. Last time they reinvested our money was to make the console version using the money from the pc players who were starting to have server issues.

The server strain could be drastically reduced, but zos likely wont make the necessary changes because the changes would directly hurt average/lower skilled players. If you have kept up with zos's PR statements over the past year it is pretty clear we wont be seeing these improvements anytime soon with the current combat team.

Tammany · July 2020

MincVinyl wrote: »

holden_caulfield wrote: »

Hope is pertinent.
Many times my death recap lists a bunch of skills that hit me but on my monitor I don't see any effect that shows those incoming attack and I just find myself dead.

Can it be lag? If so has anyone experience with gaming vpn?

No amount of vpn that gets you 1ms better connection will save you from zos's server that takes 150ms to process one calculation.....Issue is out of our control. All we can do is hope zos actually reinvests back into the game with all of the money we spent on them. Last time they reinvested our money was to make the console version using the money from the pc players who were starting to have server issues.

The server strain could be drastically reduced, but zos likely wont make the necessary changes because the changes would directly hurt average/lower skilled players. If you have kept up with zos's PR statements over the past year it is pretty clear we wont be seeing these improvements anytime soon with the current combat team.

150 is 0.15 milliseconds

that does not explain how you can die within 1 second and see x3 abilities listed in a death recap, rumors say there shuld be a gcd somewhere
this game pvp mechanic is a big wierdo in general

ScardyFox · July 2020

Bradyfjord wrote: »

ScardyFox wrote: »

Stuhns dizzying swing fest usually - its the newsest cheese.

It works for a lot of abilities.

Oh I know, this one in my personal experience is the most prolific.

RogueShark · July 2020

What killed me in PvP? Easy: being bad at PvP.

But I have a great time dying and usually meet pretty awesome people.

gronoxvx · July 2020

Invisible attacks due to the lag.

revonine · July 2020

I die a lot because of load screens. Three 5min + load screens trying to get from Bleakers to Dragon just now.
Happens in the middle of combat all the time.

TineaCruris · July 2020

teladoy wrote: »

This game has a quick combat mode, without CD and short cast times. Is like a frenzy without stop.

Visually in pvp is hard to see from where damage comes and then suddenly your hp bar goes down in 0,5 seconds.

Then you have to watch the board to see wtf killed you.

Is this a tactical game? No really, is about to know how to manage resources, being good in moving and using walls to hide, but that's it, then the rest is rush over your enemy.
This game requires skill? Yes, but to be quick with the buttons and being good with your fingers. Not too much about thinking.

To be good in pvp is more a feeling, when you do pvp a lot then you feel the things happen before they really happened, then you know when to roll, heal or back off without need to have a visual feedback.

Sad, but that is pvp in ESO, no what you see, but what you don't see. Otherwise you are a dead man walking.

So what killed you? I'm pretty sure that 80% of the people that does pvp don't know what killed them. All have to take a look to the recap to see what was it.

I think this kind of pvp Is bad for new players that try pvp. I think it makes them quit before really try. I know because it happened to me, I went through the same, then I got good gear, make everything in gold, tune my character to the maximum and then anyways play and play and have a *** bad time in the beginning, till I finally start to get it. In the end I just play by enertia, like the *** Neo in matrix, you just see the code and you don't need any visual feedback.

Lag.

9 of 10 deaths for me are due to lag. I hit my skill buttons, watch the skill box blink many times to show me I hit the button, but nothing happens. The skill box just blinks over and over. Or, even more frustrating, the animation for the skill goes off over and over, but the skill doesn't actually fire off.

The vast majority of the time I die, it's lag that kills me. It's bad code or inadequate investment is server capacity that kills me. ...in more ways that just in game. I will never understand how a company can do business this way and get away with it.

Shardaxx · July 2020

A coldfire ballista bolt which the game couldn't be bothered to draw a red marker for.

A surge of 20 enemies all dropping dawnbreakers and AOE's as they run over us.

A sniper whose shots all hit you at once due to lag.

WySoSirius · July 2020

Load Screens and Lag are the Ultimate PVP champion in this game , Greatest FOE

jlmurra2 · July 2020

Most of my deaths in pvp make sense, but there are times like today when suddenly I go from full health to dead in less than a second, and I check the recap to see the same player used five skills on me within that one second, and I am left wondering how.

Any theories how that happens?

technohic · July 2020

jlmurra2 wrote: »

Most of my deaths in pvp make sense, but there are times like today when suddenly I go from full health to dead in less than a second, and I check the recap to see the same player used five skills on me within that one second, and I am left wondering how.

Any theories how that happens?

It's the desync. I often have where I'm running from a zerg, can see ranged attacks pelting me, die and theres a bunch of dizzy swings and executioner. Watch for the your character to jump locations while dead. To them, I was just standing there eating it.

Kram8ion · July 2020

WySoSirius wrote: »

Load Screens and Lag are the Ultimate PVP champion in this game , Greatest FOE

Load screen emp!

relentless_turnip · July 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdskfovyhCQ

Pretty much this everytime...

Athyrium93 · July 2020

-I'm on the wrong bar
-I slotted the wrong skill because every freaking templar skill is yellow light rays and I wasn't paying attention when swapping them
-I forgot I moved all my skills around because this isn't PVE.....
-I did my PVE rotation
-Food ran out and I forgot to check it
-Ran out of potions
-Popped the wrong potion
-I thought I was being cool jumping around but instead fell off the keep to my death
-Stupid slaughter fish in all the water (also I forgot this wasn't PVE)

....And most importantly...

I really really suck at PVP
(but it's fun and everyone is super nice to the incompetent healer)

jlmurra2 · July 2020

technohic wrote: »

jlmurra2 wrote: »

Most of my deaths in pvp make sense, but there are times like today when suddenly I go from full health to dead in less than a second, and I check the recap to see the same player used five skills on me within that one second, and I am left wondering how.

Any theories how that happens?

It's the desync. I often have where I'm running from a zerg, can see ranged attacks pelting me, die and theres a bunch of dizzy swings and executioner. Watch for the your character to jump locations while dead. To them, I was just standing there eating it.

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.

Moonsorrow · July 2020

What kills me the most?

1. Doors not working on keeps/outposts. And when they do, they put you in and then instantly back out to be killed by the 50 people Laggerfall Authenticators zerg (name changed to protect their identities) that chased you for ages type of situation.

2. Being bursted just when putting down a siege engine, or picking it up.. geing stunned while your character is doing that animation for sieges means most often your break-free not gonna work fast enough since you get "stuck" in trying to finish that animation.

3. Playing when too tired, then will make yolo decisions that normally would not. Only then you can solo chase a discord organized actually good ballgroup into a tower thinking "Yeah imma take you all out now my Balorgh and CA is on baby yeah!!" and not thinking about the 50k heals per second they got going on their cross-healing lol. One can do that to pug zergs.. but there goes a limit between such and a proper comms group with experienced healers. When you tired though.. you go in and be the legend you are. And when you are picking where to spawn back up you get a whisper from one of them: "you drunk?". Good times.

4. Being the only one that pushes in when door/wall is breached.. when others stay out horrified by a few defensive siege and you realize when up at the tower/wall clearing some defenders that no one else came in after you.. and then see the Authenticators closing in on you, such an emergency that there is 1 (ONE) player inside the keep DEMANDS a full guild raid after them. When they come close your bar swap and everything else stops working even without being Stunned. They spend 5+ minutes to just stare at your dead body on the ground. Probably taking screenshots, so they can later watch them for the feeling of being skilled awesome players in their small-scale team of 50.

5. Simmering Frenzy (while tired) and not toggling it away when should already, when taking heavy hits.

relentless_turnip · July 2020

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/535282/performance-issues-submit-your-clips-here#latest

You can see what kills us all here😂

Please contribute any clips you may have👍
Keep comments constructive as I don't want the thread closed.

Katahdin · July 2020

1. Lag and skills greyed out or not firing
2. Over extending
3. Caught off guard
4. Outnumbered
5. Better skilled player

ItsJustHashtag · July 2020

It’s tough to pinpoint anything as I’ve never died in eso.

laksikus · July 2020

Cheater.
Its always a cheater that kills me
Or multiple cheaters if i get zerged