ESO is expensive
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✭✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I guess part of this depends on where you live. I'm in the UK, and for a 6 months sub on ESO I pay £41.94. When I subscribed to WoW last year a 6 months sub was £52.00. As a subscriber to ESO, DLCs are free. Only chapters are paid for, as is the case with expansions in WoW although they are less frequent.Edited by Tandor on June 16, 2020 4:46PM1 -
DreamsUnderStars✭✭✭✭✭You must have bought the full version (base game with chapter/expansions + greymoor). The expansion upgrade for when you already have ESO isn't that expensive.2 -
Talon_Draconis✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I guess part of this depends on where you live. I'm in the UK, and for a 6 months sub on ESO I pay £41.94. When I subscribed to WoW last year a 6 months sub was £52.00. As a subscriber to ESO, DLCs are free. Only chapters are paid for, as is the case with expansions in WoW although they are less frequent.Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I guess part of this depends on where you live. I'm in the UK, and for a 6 months sub on ESO I pay £41.94. When I subscribed to WoW last year a 6 months sub was £52.00. As a subscriber to ESO, DLCs are free. Only chapters are paid for, as is the case with expansions in WoW although they are less frequent.DreamsUnderStars wrote: »You must have bought the full version (base game with chapter/expansions + greymoor). The expansion upgrade for when you already have ESO isn't that expensive.DreamsUnderStars wrote: »You must have bought the full version (base game with chapter/expansions + greymoor). The expansion upgrade for when you already have ESO isn't that expensive.
Yup I could have bought just greymoor for 55 bucks save maybe 15 bucks but I needed elewyer too and that was another 40 bucks also the 55 buck expansion is not listed in the Microsoft store you have to search for it
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✭✭✭✭✭The way I look at it with ESO+ if I play three hours a month it is still cheaper per hour entertainment than seeing a movie and most other forms of entertainment.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
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✭✭I look at it like this. Most games you buy for $40 to$60 and play about 3 weeks or so and you’re done. ESO is more like a hobby that you invest time and money in for the long haul."We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."2 -
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✭✭✭✭Cheaper than a round of drinks at the pub once a week....
Now, I don’t know how long a round lasts you, but I get hours more from my ESO money
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✭✭✭✭✭you overpaid.
you said you came back to eso, so you already own the base game.
the chapter alone costs 33 cad, at least where i looked.
I dont know how much eso+ is in canada, but i bet its not 67 dollars unless you pay for like 6 months.
This is a good point. People need to read the descriptions and if they are unsure then ask questions.2 -
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✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I guess part of this depends on where you live. I'm in the UK, and for a 6 months sub on ESO I pay £41.94. When I subscribed to WoW last year a 6 months sub was £52.00. As a subscriber to ESO, DLCs are free. Only chapters are paid for, as is the case with expansions in WoW although they are less frequent.Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I guess part of this depends on where you live. I'm in the UK, and for a 6 months sub on ESO I pay £41.94. When I subscribed to WoW last year a 6 months sub was £52.00. As a subscriber to ESO, DLCs are free. Only chapters are paid for, as is the case with expansions in WoW although they are less frequent.DreamsUnderStars wrote: »You must have bought the full version (base game with chapter/expansions + greymoor). The expansion upgrade for when you already have ESO isn't that expensive.DreamsUnderStars wrote: »You must have bought the full version (base game with chapter/expansions + greymoor). The expansion upgrade for when you already have ESO isn't that expensive.
Yup I could have bought just greymoor for 55 bucks save maybe 15 bucks but I needed elewyer too and that was another 40 bucks also the 55 buck expansion is not listed in the Microsoft store you have to search for it
I just looked it up on the MS store. Wow That store front is horrible. What a mess. How do you find anything? Even the search results are horrible to sift through. Anyway, pretty sure you didnt have to buy Elsweyr, it should be free when the next chapter comes out out, IIRC.
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Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭I don't mind buying expansions and such or paying my monthly sub. I've been paying a monthly sub since Ultima Online release. What I really hate is having to pay $10 or whatever it is to customize my characters hair or change war paint from the original character creation options. I had to drop that a while back just to add the black stripe across my eyes. The other day I thought about dropping the stripe and going with a circlet but I'll be damned if I'm giving them another $10 ish for something that should be free from an in game barbershop or something.Edited by Zardayne on June 17, 2020 1:58AM1 -
ImmortalCX✭✭✭✭✭AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »My biggest problem with ESO is the Plus membership as someone who prefers to buy content outright. Every time I buy a DLC, it devalues the membership and it's a huge pain in the ass to play without the crafting bag. If you're going to let me buy content outright, let me pay for the perks outright too.
I am on the other side of this.
With maxed character space and maxed bank space, its possible to play without too much drama.
I used gold I farmed to buy all the DLC through the crown store.
If I ever need to make more costumes or fill up the crafting bag again, I will sub for a month. But they give free week of ESO+ every now and then.
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✭I just dropped $40 today on greens fees for golf, another $16 on a cart, $11 for a sandwich and a beer after 9 holes. That’s $67 for 4.5 hours of entertainment. Canadian dollars by the way.
Compare that to ESO where I spent the same $100 plus tax (total ~$126 Canadian dollars) back in March for Greymoor preorder Digital CE which came with a Luke of extras. I subbed for 3 months which just renewed at $50.99 per 3 months total of $101.98 worth of subs. All in I’m at $228 worth of ESO at this point and over 500 hours in.
So finally tally for golf $14.88 per hour or entertainment.
ESO comes in at a whopping 46 cents per hour of entertainment and I still have 3 months of sub that I just paid for and those hours of playing to bring the cost even lower.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I'm old enough to have come from a time in Gaming where the "DLC" of today, used to be called Expansions. They were separately packaged and sold on their own discs. Remember Half Life: Opposing Force? Or Call of Duty: United Offensive? ESO's Chapters are practically the modern day Expansions of the base game. It's too much content to not charge money for.
I don't particularly view ESO to be any more expensive than other titles I've played. Yes, I've spent hundreds, possibly nearing $1,000 on this game on DLC, Chapters, a Sub, and Crown packs, but that's been over the last 5 years.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I'm old enough to have come from a time in Gaming where the "DLC" of today, used to be called Expansions. They were separately packaged and sold on their own discs. Remember Half Life: Opposing Force? Or Call of Duty: United Offensive? ESO's Chapters are practically the modern day Expansions of the base game. It's too much content to not charge money for.
I don't particularly view ESO to be any more expensive than other titles I've played. Yes, I've spent hundreds, possibly nearing $1,000 on this game on DLC, Chapters, a Sub, and Crown packs, but that's been over the last 5 years.
True and I have been paying a sub when I also had to buy an expansion. It is really nothing new.0 -
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✭✭✭ESO is horribly overpriced for the amount of content I get out of it, but whatever. I've mostly sworn off buying games as I work through my backlog of games, but usually want to play ESO content when it drops. I almost skipped Greymoor though, as I was planning on just waiting a year. I ended up pre-ordering though (through GMG--I'm shocked people still pay full price at this point), but kinda regret the decision.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't know why it should be expensive - even for a causal player who subscribes - maybe playing 2 hours on weekdays and 8 hours on the weekend (4 per day), then the subscription which includes access to all the DLC content and provides extra crowns as well - comes at a price of 17 cents or less an hour. And this is for a casual player - for others it is even less.2 -
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✭honestly it all depends on how much you play. If you play 30 hours a week like I do than it's not that bad. I dumped my Satellite TV because of ESO and I save money each month. I was spending 1200 a year on TV but now spend about $600 a year on ESO including crowns. But yes it is the most expensive game you'll likely play but if you enjoy it it's all good.Edited by volkeswagon on June 17, 2020 6:00AM2 -
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✭ESO plus in canada is 15 a month or 78 for 6 months. The Skyrim expansion upgrade is 54Edited by volkeswagon on June 17, 2020 6:01AM0 -
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✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Talon_Draconis wrote: »Actually $75 usd is ~$100 cad that does not include taxes
.. in which case you should have mentioned that your "bucks" are actually canadian dollars. Because by default, everyone will rightly assume that they are USD.
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Nah you might assume it's US dollars by default. A lot of us doesn't live there and know that "bucks" might be any number of currencies.
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Larcomar✭✭✭✭✭Paid I think £7.50 or £7.99 in the steam sale. Apparently have played 1200 hours so far if you believe steam. Havent felt the need to get eso+ or any expansions as Im only half way through cadwells, and spend most of my time in cyrodiil right now. Seems like a steal to me....1
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✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »SolidusPrime wrote: »With ESO plus you got every expansion + DLC that you missed though, right? Most games would have made you buy that.
Not sure why it was $100. Did you get some kind of collector's edition or something? I came back after a 6-8 month break and only had to drop like $40.
Nope standard ed 63 bucks plus tax it was actually on sale with tax greymoor cost 80 bucks almost 2x the amount of the original game....I missed buying the last chapter elsyware? so 40 bucks per chapter not too bad but still expensive.... and 20 bucks for the sub....semi worth it because you really just buying crowns the rest of the stuff craft bag etc are bonus
But still dropping 100 bucks for a game is still expensive...but then I love TES games almost as much as I love Warhammer
Wish there was Warhammer mmo
You wanted upgrade edition not the normal uf you already have an eso account. The upgrade was 50usd for collectors.IGN: Ki'rah
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Keledus✭✭✭World of warcraft:
$15 a month & $60-80 a year on a expansion.
Thats 240 dollars a year to play world of warcraft..
Lets say you take the year long subscription to get abit of a discount brings the price to about 11 dollars. then you're left paying about $212..
EVE Online
14,95 EURO a month can go down to 11 euros a month,
On most expensive way its 180 euros a year, tho they dont have any yearly expansions you purchase because well frankly enough that MMO is very old and barely gets content updates.
FFIX Online
$15 a month, $60 for the game, $40-60 for a new chapter.
You get the point by now, you're paying almost the exact same as the rest....
ESO
$60 Base game, (Includes all previous chapters & current chapter) + $15/month subscription. (Down to $11 a month if buying a year.)
That brings your price to $192-$240 dollars, depending if you purchase a year worth of ESO+ or per month.
Lets not forget that the new yearly chapter for ESO+ when you have the game only costs $40 for the base version and $55 for the deluxe upgrade, already saving you $20 over world of warcraft per year (if you take the base version.)
So lets say on average at most you pay $180 in subscription money and $55 for a yearly chapter bringing your cost to $235 a year.
Thats 64 cents a day to play the game, same thing on world of warcraft and on many other MMO's.
MMO's aren't cheap to play but if you're calling 64 cents a day to have the priviledge to play a game expensive I dont know what to tell you anymore..
Lets not forget that my calculation is taking the most expensive route of paying per month & buying the deluxe version.
You can get as low as about $170 dollars a year bringing your costs to about 46 cents a day.
Go to the cinema once, you spend $10 on a ticket for a movie that lasts 2 hours give or take.
When you could spend 60 cents for 24 hours of fun on ESO.
Save that 10 minutes of fun drinking a starbucks coffeee and you can play ESO for nearly half a month.
MMO's are expensive, they will always and forever be expensive to run/maintain.
And if you're a kid that doesn't have the money and your parents dont want to pay it for you, get off your ass and work for it.
I remember as a kid working my ass off helping neighbours and family members just to save up those couple dollars to buy my subscription/game. Cant remember how many lawns I mowed and groceries I bought for them but if you just sit around and complain you wont get anywhere.Edited by Keledus on June 17, 2020 8:26AMPC - EU3 -
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✭✭✭EVE Online
14,95 EURO a month can go down to 11 euros a month,
On most expensive way its 180 euros a year, tho they dont have any yearly expansions you purchase because well frankly enough that MMO is very old and barely gets content updates.
Actually that isnt true at all. Eve has two expansions a year and monthly minor updates that consist of tweaks, bug fixes, balances, and other minor gameplay adjustments. Eve itself has always been free as have the expansions. Ive played since 2007 and i have never paid anything but a sub fee.
They just dont usually add new areas. But they constantly add new ships, and races and things to do. Basically everything but more area.
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✭✭✭✭✭Anotherone773 wrote: »Talon_Draconis wrote: »Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I guess part of this depends on where you live. I'm in the UK, and for a 6 months sub on ESO I pay £41.94. When I subscribed to WoW last year a 6 months sub was £52.00. As a subscriber to ESO, DLCs are free. Only chapters are paid for, as is the case with expansions in WoW although they are less frequent.Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
I guess part of this depends on where you live. I'm in the UK, and for a 6 months sub on ESO I pay £41.94. When I subscribed to WoW last year a 6 months sub was £52.00. As a subscriber to ESO, DLCs are free. Only chapters are paid for, as is the case with expansions in WoW although they are less frequent.DreamsUnderStars wrote: »You must have bought the full version (base game with chapter/expansions + greymoor). The expansion upgrade for when you already have ESO isn't that expensive.DreamsUnderStars wrote: »You must have bought the full version (base game with chapter/expansions + greymoor). The expansion upgrade for when you already have ESO isn't that expensive.
Yup I could have bought just greymoor for 55 bucks save maybe 15 bucks but I needed elewyer too and that was another 40 bucks also the 55 buck expansion is not listed in the Microsoft store you have to search for it
I just looked it up on the MS store. Wow That store front is horrible. What a mess. How do you find anything? Even the search results are horrible to sift through. Anyway, pretty sure you didnt have to buy Elsweyr, it should be free when the next chapter comes out out, IIRC.
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✭✭✭✭I don't mind buying expansions and such or paying my monthly sub. I've been paying a monthly sub since Ultima Online release. What I really hate is having to pay $10 or whatever it is to customize my characters hair or change war paint from the original character creation options. I had to drop that a while back just to add the black stripe across my eyes. The other day I thought about dropping the stripe and going with a circlet but I'll be damned if I'm giving them another $10 ish for something that should be free from an in game barbershop or something.
This. I like paying for content and I'm happy to do so. Most games are now monetizing the crap out of anything cosmetic because it's safeguarded in people's minds. "Oh it's just cosmetic stuff" is the common defense. ESO is no different, and thy nickel and dime us on cosmetics. Yet, you look at older games like WoW and I can go to an NPC and change my hair completely. People can't pretend it doesn't suck the joy out of a game like this where people live through their characters.1 -
Eifleber✭✭✭✭✭What i personally dislike in any game is that you have to pay money to ungimp yourself.
I dont mind paying subscription - but then I want all the content and no ways to pay extra money for shortcuts.
Must say it kind of annoys me about ESO that it happens on such a large scale.
You forgot to mention GW2.World of warcraft: $15 a month & $60-80 a year on a expansion.
EVE Online 14,95 EURO a month can go down to 11 euros a month,
FFIX Online $15 a month, $60 for the game, $40-60 for a new chapter.
ESO $60 Base game, (Includes all previous chapters & current chapter) + $15/month subscription. (Down to $11 a month if buying a year.) That brings your price to $192-$240 dollars, depending if you purchase a year worth of ESO+ or per month.
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You forgot GW2.World of warcraft: $15 a month & $60-80 a year on a expansion.
EVE Online 14,95 EURO a month can go down to 11 euros a month,
FFIX Online $15 a month, $60 for the game, $40-60 for a new chapter.
ESO $60 Base game, (Includes all previous chapters & current chapter) + $15/month subscription. (Down to $11 a month if buying a year.) That brings your price to $192-$240 dollars, depending if you purchase a year worth of ESO+ or per month.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I've never played those other games and have no interest in playing them due to having far more compelling games to play in my backlog.
They all seem pretty expensive based on what you put there.
Now if there are people who play just ESO every day for 4 hours and enjoy what they are doing, I would say that the total cost for subbing and buying chapters isn't bad at all.0 -
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✭The way I see it, ESO+ lets me access most of the content and it is quite cheap in the relative sense.
On a monthly basis, my internet connection alone costs more than ESO+ does. Never mind the cost of the electricity needed to power the house, which is a few times higher yet.
Having said that... with the game being in the state that it currently is, and has been for the last year or thereabouts ("performance", bugs, crashes, constant moronic and misguided nerfs/changes, frequent PCEU downtime, etc), I would normally refuse paying anything for such a broken mess out of principle.
But unfortunately, playing without the craftbag is the very definition of sheer tedium (been there, done that), and my time is far too valuable to be wasting time on dealing with such nonsense - so I begrudgingly end up paying for the sub anyway, just for the craftbag if not also for anything else that comes with it.
I do, however, refuse to ever buy crowns (as a separate purchase - obviously, the crowns that I receive as part of ESO+ don't count).
Which works out just fine for me, since I don't care about the fashion or housing "endgame", and the clownstore doesn't really have anything that I want for the most part anyway.
And this should go without saying, but clown crates might not even exist as far as I'm concerned.
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✭✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.Wildberryjack wrote: »It isn't any more than WoW or FFXIV, pretty in line with the industry honestly for the better MMOs.
No WOW cost $15 /month most dlc is free.
EVE is 20 bucks /m
Elite dangrous except for the first dlc been btp for the last 5 years including many updates
Like I said ESO is one of the most expensive games
That said I did put the bucks down so it's worth it but I hate the business model..gouge you for every little thing
lets look at actual prices for digital downloads.
/checks Blizzard store. upgrade to shadowlands - $40 standard edition, $60 edition that comes with a mount, $80 edition that comes with a pet, mounts and 1 month of subscription. that's digital only btw and does NOT include base game.
subscription is mandatory, rather then optional.
this is JUST for expansion that's coming up.
to buy current version of the game you have couple of options (that does NOT include new expansion btw, just base game)
complete collection heroic edition $90 base game, upcoming expansion, $30 of subscription and a mount.
complete epic edition - all of the above, plus one more month of subscription and a pet.
to buy a base game without upcoming expansion separately is $50, deluxe is $70
ok, lets move on - Final Fantasy now which is also subscription mandatory, not optional
base game - starter edition $20 (same as ESO and cheaper then WoW)
Shadowbringers expansion pack only - standard edition $40 (same as ESO and WoW)
CE shadowbringers - $60 (same as ESO and WoW deluxe, but NOT full CE)
complete collection of base game +expansion $60 - this is for standard complete edition (same as ESO, cheaper then WoW)
all of these prices were taken directly from bnet and squareenix own stores.
elite dangerous as far as i know is not an MMO.
GW2 charges for expansions - same basic prices, and smaller content updates are free IF you are already existing player and logged in when they launched, otherwise, you have to buy them separately. it also has a VERY expansive and expensive cash shop.
so... you were saying?
P.S. yes all the prices are in US dollars, but since we are comparing general pricing between games rather pricing of same game between regions, it still works. and dear god, the ONLY reason to shop on microsoft store is when its something you cannot get anywhere else - an exclusive if you will. that place is absolutely abysmal.
Edited by Linaleah on June 17, 2020 10:16PMdirty worthless casual.
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