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zos, pls give us a non pvp cyrodiil server
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Iarao✭✭✭✭many of us would like to explore cyro.
No one is stopping you from exploring the boring PvE stuff in Cyro.
Despite what people here in the forums are telling you there aren't dozens of gankers waiting at every quest, skyshard or fishing spot.
You can do all that stuff for hours, sometimes even days, without meeting another player.
not when the pvp event is on. they sit in the places you need to go.1 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I dont really care about whether or not they make a no PVP Cyro. Seems incredibly boring to me, but what do I know. What bothers me is the perpetual ignorance that is being spread around about this being a gear issue, and not a L2P or just being scared to die (in a video game) issue. You dont need crazy gear to compete in Cyro. You just need to give it a go and accept that fact that you will probably die a lot in the beginning.8 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭CassandraGemini wrote: »This has been asked for many times and it never happened. Probably never will. And honestly, as someone who does no pvp in ESO whatsoever, I am perfectly fine with that. There is one zone for pvpers - we pve folks don't need to invade that as well. And really, in my experience, if you go the deadest possible campaign you will have little to no interactions with other people at all. I got all the pve-achievements for Cyro with one toon and was killed exactly twice by other people while doing all those delves, dolmens and quests. No problem at all.
there are 4 zones. 3 different configurations plus one for under lev 50.0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
Wrong if I go into a vet trial with impen gear I bring my whole team down and could result in a failed DPS check, wiping the whole group.
Go into vdsa/vma/vbrp in full impen and then tell us the same.
Cyrodiil is the same as any other content in the game, gear up and learn or don't
no one says you must do vet content? i dont recall one event that requires vet content.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 16, 2020 4:11PM1 -
preevious✭✭✭✭✭
✭As I PvE player, I don't like that idea.
Let the PvP folks have their stuff, they already don't have a lot. Let's agree to keep what's special for them special.
The only way it could be made is if there is absolutely NO rewards in it.
No AP,
No quests,
No chests,
No XP from mobs,
No items from mobs,
No crafting nodes,
No skyshards,
No completion success
Nothing. At all.
You can't exit the zone any richer or stronger that you were in entering, even if it's by a single po.
And even then, it's not that good, since you deny them your death's worth of AP.Edited by preevious on June 15, 2020 4:21PM9 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
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there are 4 zones. 3 different configurations plus one for under lev 50.
No? Its the same Zone, just different instances with different rules, Nothing About the Zone itself changes.Politeness is respecting others.
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Iarao✭✭✭✭Lmaooo I love these threads. If you cant handle PvP, and refuse to 'Get good' stay out.
You dont see us PvP players complaining we have to do your boring dungeons 20 plus times to get our PvP gear because we understand its part of the game.
i am not talking boring. boring is a main part of the game. it is called grind. we all have it. i am talking about apples and oranges going up against each other. the pvpers get some of your ap and have an incentive via the dailies to kill you.
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heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
Wrong if I go into a vet trial with impen gear I bring my whole team down and could result in a failed DPS check, wiping the whole group.
Go into vdsa/vma/vbrp in full impen and then tell us the same.
Cyrodiil is the same as any other content in the game, gear up and learn or don't
no one says you must do vet content? i dont recall one event that requires vet content.
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Iarao✭✭✭✭DreamsUnderStars wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
Uh, group up in PvP and you will be safe.
not if we are all pve people. pvp has builds that can take out quite a large group. it's called a bomb. just think of the ap they get for that.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 16, 2020 4:11PM0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
I'm pretty sure I could turn your use of the word 'exploit' into a drinking game.
As for PvE instance only Cyrodiil, it's really not needed. As someone who was very much opposed to PvP when I started, I've got multiple characters who have all the skyshards, including the ones behind enemy gates, all delves, all town quests, all dolmens, etc. I very rarely run into people when I am doing delves/skyshards and even when I do, usually they're nice. I ran into a Praetorian in a delve, thought I was about to be rekt, but they were content to have us both get our skyshards or boss kills while using single target abilities and let each other go on our merry way. It's rare to run into someone in a delve that's ganking outside of events.
i, too, have all the shards and fishing cheese. not ad so i had to go to ad to fish. and when i find someone getting a shard in my faction area, i leave him alone. i do believe i have the delves, too. but many of us would like to just be able to ride around exploring without having to worry. and we would like to do it alone.2 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Dusk_Coven wrote: »Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
How do you know PvPers have not already infiltrated your systems? We are everywhere. Be afraid, be very afraid.
SMH
How do you do AP boosting in PvE zones where there's no AP to be boosted?
PvP systems should be completely disabled. They can't police the literally hundreds of millions of illicitly earned AP so they should just remove AP altogether.
Making Cyrodiil PvE would at least stop all that currency that probably ends up being converted to gold and used in RMT somehow.
yes it is converted by selling the gear it buys. or they take an order for something at the golden.0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭Lmaooo I love these threads. If you cant handle PvP, and refuse to 'Get good' stay out.
You dont see us PvP players complaining we have to do your boring dungeons 20 plus times to get our PvP gear because we understand its part of the game.
some of us just don't like it.Shadesofkin wrote: »Pvp is the price I have to pay for Warhorn...I get it...but like Farnsworth with the finglonger, a man can dream.
no not really. you can repair keeps. keep an eye on the map and you never have to pvp. i did it. multiple times. will cost you a chunk of gold.0 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The base topic of this game is the alliance war, and you ask for the only war zone to have no war.
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Iarao✭✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Dusk_Coven wrote: »No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
You don't have to bring it anywhere else, it's already there. PvErs use exploits all the time.
The only difference is that they don't report it as often because in PvE the players are usually not on the receiving end of it.
You forget the griefing that also goes on like people mudballing roleplayers for hours or bringing raid poisons out of a raid to kill people.
Bringing PvP everywhere else would not just give people more tools to grief and exploit but bring in a community that enjoys griefing and exploiting.
ZOS doesn't say anything probably because they can't police all of it. It'll be even more hopelessly unmanageable if PvP spreads outside of Cyrodiil and the IC.
The OP's suggestion for a PvE Cyrodiil is comparatively harmless but the derail https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6819715/#Comment_6819715 is flippant and not well thought out at all.
raid poisons???0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »There is no PvE only content in Cyrodiil, all content is intended to be played with the risk of running into other players.
i think he is referring to quests that dont require the killing of other players. that is pve in pvp zone as i understand it.3 -
CassandraGemini✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sanguinor2 wrote: »
You beat me to it. There may be different instances, but the map itself is always the same, so I consider it one zone. You could argue that there is the IC, so maybe it's two zones, but then the IC is specifically PvPvE, so I would see it as something all of its own.This poor little Bosmer stealth passive had passionate friends and a big loving family!1 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Dude. Cyrodiil is not as bad as you think it is.
As for when you do get ganked? That's part of the game I am afraid. This game has stealth mechanics specific to PvP. What, do you think they are not supposed to be used? There are sets and skills that proc from stealth attacks!
Get some invisibility potions. Be prepared to use stealth. The tools that gankers use are actually your best defence.
"Questing" in Cyrodiil has never been easier as now all armour has critical resistance. Like, I am actually swapping some pieces to Divines now for the weapon damage from Warrior.
i have been to cyro. i just dont like it that kind of play. i just want to explore all the area. peacefully.
i had thought of asking for a flagging system, but then the pvp servers might fill up with no pvp flagged people and that wouldnt be right for those who do want to pvp.1 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭goldenarcher1 wrote: »Imperial City should certainly have some sort of PVE only instance.
The labyrinth of sewers beneath has some of the best content in the game imho.
yes i would like that, too. baby steps
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Iarao✭✭✭✭DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »To the OP.
If you had a bad experience in PvP before I’d like to say sorry. Not everyone is a pric. Their are really good people from all factions in cyrodil. You just need thick skin sometimes.
Now with that being said. This is the time when Most PvP guilds will be recruiting and most pve guilds will form up and hop into cyrodil. So please go join a decent size active guild and hop into cyrodil. If you are the kind of player who does not join and participate in guilds and basically plays the game solo only I don’t know why you are playing an MMO then.
i basically play solo with zone conversation usually off. i would love to see a single player version of eso. yah i know es 1,2,3,4,5,6 and etc, but those are not eso. i like to explore. i will group up to obtain an objective like a wb, dungeon, etc. i am not interested in grouping up to explore cyro, but i will to do the anchor (does cyro have wbs? i dont think so). i am just not someone who wants to fight other players. i have vertigo and adrenal issues and pvp is too hard on my system. too much excitement and all that action with groups of people can leave me dizzy. anchors are bad enough. and trials just exhaust me. 1 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I dont really care about whether or not they make a no PVP Cyro. Seems incredibly boring to me, but what do I know. What bothers me is the perpetual ignorance that is being spread around about this being a gear issue, and not a L2P or just being scared to die (in a video game) issue. You dont need crazy gear to compete in Cyro. You just need to give it a go and accept that fact that you will probably die a lot in the beginning.
oh yes you will die and you really need impen gear. and of course a second set of gear takes up slots in your bag/bank. 0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭As I PvE player, I don't like that idea.
Let the PvP folks have their stuff, they already don't have a lot. Let's agree to keep what's special for them special.
The only way it could be made is if there is absolutely NO rewards in it.
No AP,
No quests,
No chests,
No XP from mobs,
No items from mobs,
No crafting nodes,
No skyshards,
No completion success
Nothing. At all.
You can't exit the zone any richer or stronger that you were in entering, even if it's by a single po.
And even then, it's not that good, since you deny them your death's worth of AP.
no one is suggesting that pvpers lose anything. i am suggesting and addition.2 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭As I PvE player, I don't like that idea.
Let the PvP folks have their stuff, they already don't have a lot. Let's agree to keep what's special for them special.
The only way it could be made is if there is absolutely NO rewards in it.
No AP,
No quests,
No chests,
No XP from mobs,
No items from mobs,
No crafting nodes,
No skyshards,
No completion success
Nothing. At all.
You can't exit the zone any richer or stronger that you were in entering, even if it's by a single po.
And even then, it's not that good, since you deny them your death's worth of AP.
no one is suggesting that pvpers lose anything. i am suggesting and addition.
no ap for sure. quests would be nice (not any story line, just side quests), and since you fight them, xp/generic dcon items from mobs. no chests, nodes, shards, cheese. you would need to go to the regular pvp areas for those. ditto for leveling the pvp skill line.0 -
AmoralOne✭✭✭✭Lmaooo I love these threads. If you cant handle PvP, and refuse to 'Get good' stay out.
You dont see us PvP players complaining we have to do your boring dungeons 20 plus times to get our PvP gear because we understand its part of the game.
i am not talking boring. boring is a main part of the game. it is called grind. we all have it. i am talking about apples and oranges going up against each other. the pvpers get some of your ap and have an incentive via the dailies to kill you.
Its PVP for a reason. If I see a champ 12, 160, 300, 810 and you walk near me ima attack you, and I FULLY expect it to happen to me. (Def are people and some players you leave around for x reason) this statement just applies to randoms.
Could you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot? If I was like "ZOS im a PvP player but I want to get X items from PvE, please make a PvP method of me getting this item"
That just sounds dumb lol.
Man up do the content and go on. It sucks. We dont wanna do PvE for PvP stuff, you dont wanna do PvP for PvE stuff. Thats just how it works.PC NA - EP's Greatest Support4 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They really should make a PvE only Cyrodiil, as there are many players in a pvp based Cyrodiil who do not want to be there. Who are only there for the golden vendor, PvE, skyshards, or something else. This would also solve atleast some lag, and would help create more spots for active pvpers.
Also, it would allow players to get familiar with the zone/complete the zone, before entering it for PvP purposes.
Edit: I'm not sure what grouping had to do with this though.
They should make 2 versions one that you queue into as we do now and a pve one that you walk right in like any zone heck if they wanted they can make it unlocked after the plane meld molag bal story complete as a war subsided version no reason to pvp2 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭CassandraGemini wrote: »Sanguinor2 wrote: »
You beat me to it. There may be different instances, but the map itself is always the same, so I consider it one zone. You could argue that there is the IC, so maybe it's two zones, but then the IC is specifically PvPvE, so I would see it as something all of its own.
there is pve in cyro, too. pve quests, too.0 -
mav1234✭✭✭✭✭Terrible idea. There is a good reason to have content in PvP zones that is for people that enjoy both PvP and PvE. If you don't like one, don't do it, the same way I do not do all PvE content and don't receive the rewards for it.
The game SHOULD have different activities with DIFFERENT rewards. You don't NEED to do Cyrodill for any reason; you WANT to. And you CAN right now; you just refuse to. PvPers HAVE to do PvE content to be successful. And I think that, too, is okay.7 -
Urvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Better yet, make Cyrodiil into a PvE zone and then make a new, factionless PvP zone with more guild and player agency.2 -
Lixiviant✭✭✭✭✭I think this is a good point. Could we have like 1 day a year where you can run passive and get the rest of the dolmens and not get plummeted every time I venture into enemy territory? Just want that trophy bling.
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