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zos, pls give us a non pvp cyrodiil server
Iarao
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many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
[Edited to remove Baiting]
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 16, 2020 4:08PM [Edited to remove Baiting]
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Iarao✭✭✭✭many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
* i meant pvp partsEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 16, 2020 4:09PM0 -
TBois✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?PC/NA
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Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭They really should make a PvE only Cyrodiil, as there are many players in a pvp based Cyrodiil who do not want to be there. Who are only there for the golden vendor, PvE, skyshards, or something else. This would also solve atleast some lag, and would help create more spots for active pvpers.
Also, it would allow players to get familiar with the zone/complete the zone, before entering it for PvP purposes.
Edit: I'm not sure what grouping had to do with this though.Edited by Sarannah on June 15, 2020 2:27PM24 -
Edaphon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭many of us would like to explore cyro.
No one is stopping you from exploring the boring PvE stuff in Cyro.
Despite what people here in the forums are telling you there aren't dozens of gankers waiting at every quest, skyshard or fishing spot.
You can do all that stuff for hours, sometimes even days, without meeting another player.
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CassandraGemini✭✭✭✭✭
✭This has been asked for many times and it never happened. Probably never will. And honestly, as someone who does no pvp in ESO whatsoever, I am perfectly fine with that. There is one zone for pvpers - we pve folks don't need to invade that as well. And really, in my experience, if you go the deadest possible campaign you will have little to no interactions with other people at all. I got all the pve-achievements for Cyro with one toon and was killed exactly twice by other people while doing all those delves, dolmens and quests. No problem at all.This poor little Bosmer stealth passive had passionate friends and a big loving family!23 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
Edited by Dusk_Coven on June 15, 2020 3:16PM21 -
NoodleESO✭✭✭✭✭many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
Wrong if I go into a vet trial with impen gear I bring my whole team down and could result in a failed DPS check, wiping the whole group.
Go into vdsa/vma/vbrp in full impen and then tell us the same.
Cyrodiil is the same as any other content in the game, gear up and learn or don'tEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 16, 2020 4:09PM12 -
TBois✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
How do you know PvPers have not already infiltrated your systems? We are everywhere. Be afraid, be very afraid.PC/NA
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Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
How do you know PvPers have not already infiltrated your systems? We are everywhere. Be afraid, be very afraid.
SMH
How do you do AP boosting in PvE zones where there's no AP to be boosted?
PvP systems should be completely disabled. They can't police the literally hundreds of millions of illicitly earned AP so they should just remove AP altogether.
Making Cyrodiil PvE would at least stop all that currency that probably ends up being converted to gold and used in RMT somehow.Edited by Dusk_Coven on June 15, 2020 3:30PM3 -
TBois✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Dusk_Coven wrote: »Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
How do you know PvPers have not already infiltrated your systems? We are everywhere. Be afraid, be very afraid.
SMH
How do you do AP boosting in PvE zones where there's no AP to be boosted?
PvP systems should be completely disabled. They can't police the literally hundreds of millions of illicitly earned AP so they should just remove AP altogether.
I think most PvPers would agree that they do not enjoy how AP works, both in what it incentivizes and how it is used in rankings.Edited by TBois on June 15, 2020 3:33PMPC/NA
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Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MurderMostFoul wrote: »Dusk_Coven wrote: »Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
[Quoted post was removed]
Yeah I don't use PvP boosting to get millions of AP quickly and I don't want to either.
People who defend exploits are disgusting.
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 15, 2020 4:35PM2 -
eKsDee✭✭✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
The only one of those relevant to opening PvP up to all overland zones is the first one, and even that's a bit of a stretch. Volendrung would be limited to Cyrodiil, and AP boosting and scroll trolling is literally only possible in Cyrodiil.0 -
AmoralOne✭✭✭✭Lmaooo I love these threads. If you cant handle PvP, and refuse to 'Get good' stay out.
You dont see us PvP players complaining we have to do your boring dungeons 20 plus times to get our PvP gear because we understand its part of the game.PC NA - EP's Greatest Support28 -
Edaphon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
You don't have to bring it anywhere else, it's already there. PvErs use exploits all the time.
The only difference is that they don't report it as often because in PvE the players are usually not on the receiving end of it.20 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
Uh, group up in PvP and you will be safe.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 16, 2020 4:09PM8 -
MurderMostFoul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »People who defend exploits are disgusting.
More disgusting are people who make prejudicial over-generalizations:Dusk_Coven wrote: »PvPers are determined to destroy their own game.
“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”23 -
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✭✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Can I get PvP enabled in all the other zones then?
No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/533015/rampant-self-rezzing-in-cyro-exploit-using-group-finder-somehow
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532561/volendrung-exploit
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/519709/ap-boosting-feeding-legit-against-tos
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/532775/cyrodiil-same-team-scroll-trolling-mass-report-from-same-alliance-kill-command-once-per-x-hours
PvPers are determined to destroy their own game. A PvE version of Cyrodiil would be at least useful.
PvP should get it own server so all these people can be isolated there.
I'm pretty sure I could turn your use of the word 'exploit' into a drinking game.
As for PvE instance only Cyrodiil, it's really not needed. As someone who was very much opposed to PvP when I started, I've got multiple characters who have all the skyshards, including the ones behind enemy gates, all delves, all town quests, all dolmens, etc. I very rarely run into people when I am doing delves/skyshards and even when I do, usually they're nice. I ran into a Praetorian in a delve, thought I was about to be rekt, but they were content to have us both get our skyshards or boss kills while using single target abilities and let each other go on our merry way. It's rare to run into someone in a delve that's ganking outside of events.PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
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Asdara✭✭✭✭✭
✭many of us would like to explore cyro. we dont want to pvp and most importantly, we are not geared for pvp. this way we can do the pve part of the events in peace. [snip] inappropriately geared people coming to cyro is not the same as pvp geared people coming to pve. afraid of dungeon kicks? group up with a mate and you will be safe.
100% agree dudeEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on June 16, 2020 4:09PM“The Second Era? Oh, you mean the BEAM Era. Because apparently every problem could be solved with a giant glowing light shooting at everything.”2 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »No. There is rampant cheating and exploiting and trolling and other nonsense by PvPers in Cyrodiil. Don't bring it anywhere else.
You don't have to bring it anywhere else, it's already there. PvErs use exploits all the time.
The only difference is that they don't report it as often because in PvE the players are usually not on the receiving end of it.
You forget the griefing that also goes on like people mudballing roleplayers for hours or bringing raid poisons out of a raid to kill people.
Bringing PvP everywhere else would not just give people more tools to grief and exploit but bring in a community that enjoys griefing and exploiting.
ZOS doesn't say anything probably because they can't police all of it. It'll be even more hopelessly unmanageable if PvP spreads outside of Cyrodiil and the IC.
The OP's suggestion for a PvE Cyrodiil is comparatively harmless but the derail https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6819715/#Comment_6819715 is flippant and not well thought out at all.
Edited by Dusk_Coven on June 15, 2020 3:59PM1 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is no PvE only content in Cyrodiil, all content is intended to be played with the risk of running into other players.
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✭✭Dude. Cyrodiil is not as bad as you think it is.
As for when you do get ganked? That's part of the game I am afraid. This game has stealth mechanics specific to PvP. What, do you think they are not supposed to be used? There are sets and skills that proc from stealth attacks!
Get some invisibility potions. Be prepared to use stealth. The tools that gankers use are actually your best defence.
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✭✭Imperial City should certainly have some sort of PVE only instance.
The labyrinth of sewers beneath has some of the best content in the game imho.4 -
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✭To the OP.
If you had a bad experience in PvP before I’d like to say sorry. Not everyone is a pric. Their are really good people from all factions in cyrodil. You just need thick skin sometimes.
Now with that being said. This is the time when Most PvP guilds will be recruiting and most pve guilds will form up and hop into cyrodil. So please go join a decent size active guild and hop into cyrodil. If you are the kind of player who does not join and participate in guilds and basically plays the game solo only I don’t know why you are playing an MMO then.6 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭They really should make a PvE only Cyrodiil, as there are many players in a pvp based Cyrodiil who do not want to be there. Who are only there for the golden vendor, PvE, skyshards, or something else. This would also solve atleast some lag, and would help create more spots for active pvpers.
Also, it would allow players to get familiar with the zone/complete the zone, before entering it for PvP purposes.
Edit: I'm not sure what grouping had to do with this though.
i have seen pvpers complain about getting kicked from pve dungeons because they are in pvp gear. especially tanks. but a pvp tank shouldnt have trouble in most pve dungeons. if they group up with a guildmate and then go into the dungeon, they will never be kicked because it take 3 of the 4 to kick someone.0 -
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Just allow people to flag for pvp. If you are flagged you can be engaged in combat outside of cities, away from guards.PC/NA
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