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its time to stop listenign crying nb and back to use math omg
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Joinovikova✭✭✭✭MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »I can relate to the frustration of being killed by a Nightblade, I really can. However, it really is a learn to play issue. As a Sorc, you need to have your shields up all the time, or at least activate them as soon as you take damage. If you are still getting, wrecked than the Nightblade in question probably has a good build and is golded out. There are 2 types of builds you can go for high gank burst. Either weapon damage which is good vs shields, or a very high crit build that is good against a lot except shields and high armor. What is your cp level? If you are playing in cp campaign and are not at the very least 500, then there is little wonder you are getting wrecked.
That being said, CP does need reworking but that is a seperate issue that is not exclusive to Nightblades.
its from non CP.. sheild can not be keep up in non cp for all time (if you want to do anything else... ) I do not have chance to do enything since I get killed before server responded any clue í dmg debuff ect) best way will be dode roll it but I ussually see NB after he/she kill me.. i also have nb build and can do same not only to mag LA builds , its not healthy if I am able to kill even some heavy armomr buidl in 0,7s or get killed in 0,5s simply its not healthy to this game.. the issue must be address and resolved soon before it complete reduce already small pvp comunity... you simply have to have chance to react so the game desing must reflect current server performance if this game have 10ms and server calculated and respon in 10ms ist not problem but durign prime time in cyro lucky to have 120ms , now start to be even bg its startt to be 120ms... thats all it is not frustration its unpalble since i get response from server abiut dmg affter i get killed..0 -
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✭Joinovikova wrote: »MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »I can relate to the frustration of being killed by a Nightblade, I really can. However, it really is a learn to play issue. As a Sorc, you need to have your shields up all the time, or at least activate them as soon as you take damage. If you are still getting, wrecked than the Nightblade in question probably has a good build and is golded out. There are 2 types of builds you can go for high gank burst. Either weapon damage which is good vs shields, or a very high crit build that is good against a lot except shields and high armor. What is your cp level? If you are playing in cp campaign and are not at the very least 500, then there is little wonder you are getting wrecked.
That being said, CP does need reworking but that is a seperate issue that is not exclusive to Nightblades.
its from non CP.. sheild can not be keep up in non cp for all time (if you want to do anything else... ) I do not have chance to do enything since I get killed before server responded any clue í dmg debuff ect) best way will be dode roll it but I ussually see NB after he/she kill me.. i also have nb build and can do same not only to mag LA builds , its not healthy if I am able to kill even some heavy armomr buidl in 0,7s or get killed in 0,5s simply its not healthy to this game.. the issue must be address and resolved soon before it complete reduce already small pvp comunity... you simply have to have chance to react so the game desing must reflect current server performance if this game have 10ms and server calculated and respon in 10ms ist not problem but durign prime time in cyro lucky to have 120ms , now start to be even bg its startt to be 120ms... thats all it is not frustration its unpalble since i get response from server abiut dmg affter i get killed..
Then it sounds like a latency or lag issue, unfortunately there is little that can be done with that. The amount of times I have been killed by lag is.... well its a lot. Don't forget, Nightblades are SUPPOSED to burst you down quickly. They are a class that is meant to kill squishy targets. If you take that away from them completely, then they become useless. You can keep shields up quite a lot if you have decent sustain. Do you have enough Magicka Recovery? This needs to be at a decent level to PVP properly, especially on a Sorc. I would aim for about 1800 Recovery at least. Top end players may do with less, but you don't sound like a top end player. Focus on sustain. Sustain is king in PVP (and PVE for that matter but you can get away with much less.) Try throw on a set like Shacklebreaker, it will help with dodging and breaking free from cc. Hope this helps.0 -
Joinovikova✭✭✭✭MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »Joinovikova wrote: »MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »I can relate to the frustration of being killed by a Nightblade, I really can. However, it really is a learn to play issue. As a Sorc, you need to have your shields up all the time, or at least activate them as soon as you take damage. If you are still getting, wrecked than the Nightblade in question probably has a good build and is golded out. There are 2 types of builds you can go for high gank burst. Either weapon damage which is good vs shields, or a very high crit build that is good against a lot except shields and high armor. What is your cp level? If you are playing in cp campaign and are not at the very least 500, then there is little wonder you are getting wrecked.
That being said, CP does need reworking but that is a seperate issue that is not exclusive to Nightblades.
its from non CP.. sheild can not be keep up in non cp for all time (if you want to do anything else... ) I do not have chance to do enything since I get killed before server responded any clue í dmg debuff ect) best way will be dode roll it but I ussually see NB after he/she kill me.. i also have nb build and can do same not only to mag LA builds , its not healthy if I am able to kill even some heavy armomr buidl in 0,7s or get killed in 0,5s simply its not healthy to this game.. the issue must be address and resolved soon before it complete reduce already small pvp comunity... you simply have to have chance to react so the game desing must reflect current server performance if this game have 10ms and server calculated and respon in 10ms ist not problem but durign prime time in cyro lucky to have 120ms , now start to be even bg its startt to be 120ms... thats all it is not frustration its unpalble since i get response from server abiut dmg affter i get killed..
Then it sounds like a latency or lag issue, unfortunately there is little that can be done with that. The amount of times I have been killed by lag is.... well its a lot. Don't forget, Nightblades are SUPPOSED to burst you down quickly. They are a class that is meant to kill squishy targets. If you take that away from them completely, then they become useless. You can keep shields up quite a lot if you have decent sustain. Do you have enough Magicka Recovery? This needs to be at a decent level to PVP properly, especially on a Sorc. I would aim for about 1800 Recovery at least. Top end players may do with less, but you don't sound like a top end player. Focus on sustain. Sustain is king in PVP (and PVE for that matter but you can get away with much less.) Try throw on a set like Shacklebreaker, it will help with dodging and breaking free from cc. Hope this helps.
i also play nb for 4 years... its oky to get kill fast but...not before server respon to your enemy he get dmg .. its *** and this topis is manly about this...
ok if u want to keep one sheild all time and u will be max prescis to recast in every 6 secon u need 1296 recovery so yes u can do it but if u want to aneythign else ..
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[Snip] i also habe Nb and u can also can see screen where i killed Heavy stam tank in 0,7s if u think is okay to get kill before server sent to your client any clue about u actually get hit okay thats fine if u enjoy game explicitně based on low server performance okay its your choice. I prefer game decided by skill and fun to play...
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✭✭✭✭✭Wait. You play as Magsorc and complain about NB ?
Are you a time traveller from 1.6 update by any chance
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Mr_Wolfe✭✭✭Joinovikova wrote: »so say how to play light armor magica build on currenty patch if u get instatn kill before server respond to your client ...??
- Put more into health and resistances.
- Learn how to play your build more effectively.
- Don't stand in an AoE trying to 1vX.
You've got three ticks of Grothdar on your recap, which is a player-centered AoE DoT. That means you went toe to toe with someone surrounded by a big flaming 'Don't Stand Here' aura for at least three seconds. Also, you may have blocked out the names but that Flame Lash hit didn't come from a nightblade and I can see at least 4 enemy players surrounding your body in the screenshot you posted. This wasn't a gank, you just got rolled. It happens. Get back up and try to do better. Maybe look into upgrading your computer/internet if lag is really that much of an issue because it's quite possible the problem is on your end, rather than ZoS'.
Also, keep in mind that copying a build off the internet is not going to automatically make you good at PvP. That takes a lot of time and practice, and I've seen much better players than me with much better builds still get wrecked on occasion because that's just what happens sometimes. Don't get mad, learn from it.4 -
killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Joinovikova wrote: »
[Snip] i also habe Nb and u can also can see screen where i killed Heavy stam tank in 0,7s if u think is okay to get kill before server sent to your client any clue about u actually get hit okay thats fine if u enjoy game explicitně based on low server performance okay its your choice. I prefer game decided by skill and fun to play...MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »[Removed quote]
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You should learn to fight back,i faced you a few time in BG if you have the same name on your magsorc and you just stand at max ranged and run away/to your team everytime someone engage in a fight with you.
Not sure how you expect to learn to fight back if you don't even try not to mention desync/lag effect everyone.
I died behind a wall from a channeled attack because was not interrupted by los or people clearly away from me still able to hit me but i could't fight back because oit of range and so on.
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Joinovikova✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Wait. You play as Magsorc and complain about NB ?
Are you a time traveller from 1.6 update by any chance
I also play nb warden templar necro dk... the problem is the game now looks like this if ypou thign is okay fine I hope ZOS will try to save their game.. https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050
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mag sorc is not design to take melle fight its simply thign u want avoid that my strategy and it works i keep me team hoted and use deffend streak stun BUT problem, what i want to share is now due to not clever desing u can get kill before server respond to your client about u get some dmg., I understadnd nb main fear abut lost this oportunity to have one combo confirmed kill without any possivble counter play.. but its not heathy to game.. the game start to look like this not only in Cyro but also bg https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050 and this is problem i want to adress..killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Joinovikova wrote: »
[Snip] i also habe Nb and u can also can see screen where i killed Heavy stam tank in 0,7s if u think is okay to get kill before server sent to your client any clue about u actually get hit okay thats fine if u enjoy game explicitně based on low server performance okay its your choice. I prefer game decided by skill and fun to play...MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »[Removed quote]
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You should learn to fight back,i faced you a few time in BG if you have the same name on your magsorc and you just stand at max ranged and run away/to your team everytime someone engage in a fight with you.
Not sure how you expect to learn to fight back if you don't even try not to mention desync/lag effect everyone.
I died behind a wall from a channeled attack because was not interrupted by los or people clearly away from me still able to hit me but i could't fight back because oit of range and so on.
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killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Joinovikova wrote: »
mag sorc is not design to take melle fight its simply thign u want avoid that my strategy and it works i keep me team hoted and use deffend streak stun BUT problem, what i want to share is now due to not clever desing u can get kill before server respond to your client about u get some dmg., I understadnd nb main fear abut lost this oportunity to have one combo confirmed kill without any possivble counter play.. but its not heathy to game.. the game start to look like this not only in Cyro but also bg https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050 and this is problem i want to adress..killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Joinovikova wrote: »
[Snip] i also habe Nb and u can also can see screen where i killed Heavy stam tank in 0,7s if u think is okay to get kill before server sent to your client any clue about u actually get hit okay thats fine if u enjoy game explicitně based on low server performance okay its your choice. I prefer game decided by skill and fun to play...MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »[Removed quote]
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You should learn to fight back,i faced you a few time in BG if you have the same name on your magsorc and you just stand at max ranged and run away/to your team everytime someone engage in a fight with you.
Not sure how you expect to learn to fight back if you don't even try not to mention desync/lag effect everyone.
I died behind a wall from a channeled attack because was not interrupted by los or people clearly away from me still able to hit me but i could't fight back because oit of range and so on.
If you want to complain about server lag/desync then everyone agree with you but is NOT a NB problem if the server lag/desync.
As i alredy said i died who know how many time for lag/desync and what not.
But you don't see me complain about what class killed me in a lag/desync scenario because the problem is not the class but zos ability to fix the performance.Edited by ZOS_Volpe on June 2, 2020 5:24PM6 -
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✭Joinovikova wrote: »Joinovikova wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Based on that recap, at least two different players hit you. A DK casting flame lash, and a NB casting Incap strike. If multiple players hit you in between dodge rolling with your shields and healing down, you're going to die. That NB is probably running a class canon build which makes sense how hard Incap hit you for.
That's kind of how glass canon builds are designed to work, high risk in exchange for high reward. That's personally the only way I play my NB now a days, stacking pen and damage and dropping the hardest hitting abilities I have on someone like you in the span of hopefully a second or two, then I GTFO.
first case i streak awy and have full hp and then get somethign like this https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050 simply do not healthy to the game.. incap or heavy atack shoudl not be possible to casdr in stealth thats all we need...
And not a single person knows what you are talking about anymore. Complaining about ganks when u get hit by a crit incap on ur low armor sorc with shields down then talking about snipes and stealth and showing videos of performance related issues with snipe.
Take a look at your debuffs. a 10 second minor fracture debuff or a 4 second minor defile debuff + poisoned status means you are getting sniped. When you see that but you don’t see yourself getting hit, go on the defensive, find the snipeblade and focus him
i do nto even get info about debuff .. on this patch ist like i run and get ik and then the server sent me what happend.. it reveals the NB after he kill me..
In the video, you can see the purple icon with a counter of 9 on it on the bottom right above your stam bar. That is the minor fracture debuff caused by focused aim. Pay attention to your debuffs and countering de syncs is much easier.Edited by JobooAGS on June 2, 2020 4:22PM0 -
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Nova_J✭✭✭✭The other week I was in a BG with a DK that was hitting me with 10k dmg heavy attacks lol. The stuff people come up with is crazy.0
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✭✭Joinovikova wrote: »I think the biggest mistake for new players is consider themselves as a part of a team when talking about classes, without even trying other class.
Sure, Sorcs have been nerfed a lot and they are just a shadow of what they used to be. For Nbs the story is quite similar.
What is not acceptable is to believe that one class is OP without addressing their problems. The only thing NBs have is high burst dmg, once you learn how to counter that, pure ganker NBs are easy preys on any build.
Regarding LA Sorc, if you are unable to a "piano playing" style, swapping weapons and keeping shields up, then LA Sorc is not for you. Sadly, one of the things that harms the most that playing style is lag and gankers know it.
Besides, ZoS "evil genie" policy always, always imply a nerf on a class that asks for nerf on another classes. Do you know how much it used to last ward when the game was launched? What about cloak purging up to 5 effects? Those were amazing tools we all lost because of the nerf cries in the forum...I think the biggest mistake for new players is consider themselves as a part of a team when talking about classes, without even trying other class.
Sure, Sorcs have been nerfed a lot and they are just a shadow of what they used to be. For Nbs the story is quite similar.
What is not acceptable is to believe that one class is OP without addressing their problems. The only thing NBs have is high burst dmg, once you learn how to counter that, pure ganker NBs are easy preys on any build.
Regarding LA Sorc, if you are unable to a "piano playing" style, swapping weapons and keeping shields up, then LA Sorc is not for you. Sadly, one of the things that harms the most that playing style is lag and gankers know it.
Besides, ZoS "evil genie" policy always, always imply a nerf on a class that asks for nerf on another classes. Do you know how much it used to last ward when the game was launched? What about cloak purging up to 5 effects? Those were amazing tools we all lost because of the nerf cries in the forum...
Please read whole mesage before react again i am not NEW PLAYER I have all clases i also post my NB ganger build and how to instat kill even stam build in 0,7s, what i see now in the game is somethign like this https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050 this is not healthy and only idiot can protect this...
If you are not a new player, why the heck do you use Alcast builds?
The problem is related to latencySarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
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lucky_Sage✭✭✭✭✭Dmg is actually higher in non cp.
And as a lot of people said it’s server you are behind what they other person saw is you standing still.
I’ve been told I was immune to dragon blood and dodge roll before because I was like 1 to 2 seconds behind the serverEdited by lucky_Sage on June 2, 2020 11:52PMDC PC NA
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✭✭Joinovikova wrote: »MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »Joinovikova wrote: »MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »I can relate to the frustration of being killed by a Nightblade, I really can. However, it really is a learn to play issue. As a Sorc, you need to have your shields up all the time, or at least activate them as soon as you take damage. If you are still getting, wrecked than the Nightblade in question probably has a good build and is golded out. There are 2 types of builds you can go for high gank burst. Either weapon damage which is good vs shields, or a very high crit build that is good against a lot except shields and high armor. What is your cp level? If you are playing in cp campaign and are not at the very least 500, then there is little wonder you are getting wrecked.
That being said, CP does need reworking but that is a seperate issue that is not exclusive to Nightblades.
its from non CP.. sheild can not be keep up in non cp for all time (if you want to do anything else... ) I do not have chance to do enything since I get killed before server responded any clue í dmg debuff ect) best way will be dode roll it but I ussually see NB after he/she kill me.. i also have nb build and can do same not only to mag LA builds , its not healthy if I am able to kill even some heavy armomr buidl in 0,7s or get killed in 0,5s simply its not healthy to this game.. the issue must be address and resolved soon before it complete reduce already small pvp comunity... you simply have to have chance to react so the game desing must reflect current server performance if this game have 10ms and server calculated and respon in 10ms ist not problem but durign prime time in cyro lucky to have 120ms , now start to be even bg its startt to be 120ms... thats all it is not frustration its unpalble since i get response from server abiut dmg affter i get killed..
Then it sounds like a latency or lag issue, unfortunately there is little that can be done with that. The amount of times I have been killed by lag is.... well its a lot. Don't forget, Nightblades are SUPPOSED to burst you down quickly. They are a class that is meant to kill squishy targets. If you take that away from them completely, then they become useless. You can keep shields up quite a lot if you have decent sustain. Do you have enough Magicka Recovery? This needs to be at a decent level to PVP properly, especially on a Sorc. I would aim for about 1800 Recovery at least. Top end players may do with less, but you don't sound like a top end player. Focus on sustain. Sustain is king in PVP (and PVE for that matter but you can get away with much less.) Try throw on a set like Shacklebreaker, it will help with dodging and breaking free from cc. Hope this helps.
i also play nb for 4 years... its oky to get kill fast but...not before server respon to your enemy he get dmg .. its *** and this topis is manly about this...
ok if u want to keep one sheild all time and u will be max prescis to recast in every 6 secon u need 1296 recovery so yes u can do it but if u want to aneythign else ..
Well yeah buddy that's the whole freaking point of making a sorc build focused around stacking magicka to get big shields. You need to keep them all the time. If you don't want to keep ur shields up don't complain why a single target burst class killed you.3 -
Joinovikova✭✭✭✭Joinovikova wrote: »I think the biggest mistake for new players is consider themselves as a part of a team when talking about classes, without even trying other class.
Sure, Sorcs have been nerfed a lot and they are just a shadow of what they used to be. For Nbs the story is quite similar.
What is not acceptable is to believe that one class is OP without addressing their problems. The only thing NBs have is high burst dmg, once you learn how to counter that, pure ganker NBs are easy preys on any build.
Regarding LA Sorc, if you are unable to a "piano playing" style, swapping weapons and keeping shields up, then LA Sorc is not for you. Sadly, one of the things that harms the most that playing style is lag and gankers know it.
Besides, ZoS "evil genie" policy always, always imply a nerf on a class that asks for nerf on another classes. Do you know how much it used to last ward when the game was launched? What about cloak purging up to 5 effects? Those were amazing tools we all lost because of the nerf cries in the forum...I think the biggest mistake for new players is consider themselves as a part of a team when talking about classes, without even trying other class.
Sure, Sorcs have been nerfed a lot and they are just a shadow of what they used to be. For Nbs the story is quite similar.
What is not acceptable is to believe that one class is OP without addressing their problems. The only thing NBs have is high burst dmg, once you learn how to counter that, pure ganker NBs are easy preys on any build.
Regarding LA Sorc, if you are unable to a "piano playing" style, swapping weapons and keeping shields up, then LA Sorc is not for you. Sadly, one of the things that harms the most that playing style is lag and gankers know it.
Besides, ZoS "evil genie" policy always, always imply a nerf on a class that asks for nerf on another classes. Do you know how much it used to last ward when the game was launched? What about cloak purging up to 5 effects? Those were amazing tools we all lost because of the nerf cries in the forum...
Please read whole mesage before react again i am not NEW PLAYER I have all clases i also post my NB ganger build and how to instat kill even stam build in 0,7s, what i see now in the game is somethign like this https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050 this is not healthy and only idiot can protect this...
If you are not a new player, why the heck do you use Alcast builds?
The problem is related to latency
I have my own builds but if it not work okay my i made mistake so i tryed class representative build who has much more skill experience than anyone who post anything here .. also dottzz gamming also other builds no LA build can survive this Even. If i count 8% plus 5% potentates it will still be in snipe case only thing is brasss with potentates and pjisic .... okay i survive this .. but the build will be garbage... this is not healthy to game if you think its healthy its okay,. But there is no reason to any personal attack.. if u thing is okax to have 20k dmg in 0,5s put arguments why is healthy someone is able to kill other player before server respon to player he get dmg.0 -
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Any arguments why is okay to kill someone before server respond to client u get any dmg ?? Or u just fear to lose opurtunity to have one combo confirmed kill whithout any possible counterplay??? Or u want remove any non Heavy stam build from Pvp ?? Or u think magsorc need to wear Heavy Armor since all other deff options gets masive nerf???
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nsmurfer✭✭✭✭✭Joinovikova wrote: »
I have my own builds but if it not work okay my i made mistake so i tryed class representative build who has much more skill experience than anyone who post anything here .. also dottzz gamming also other builds no LA build can survive this Even. If i count 8% plus 5% potentates it will still be in snipe case only thing is brasss with potentates and pjisic .... okay i survive this .. but the build will be garbage... this is not healthy to game if you think its healthy its okay,. But there is no reason to any personal attack.. if u thing is okax to have 20k dmg in 0,5s put arguments why is healthy someone is able to kill other player before server respon to player he get dmg.
Alcast is not really an PvPer though. Most good PvPers are on a different level than him. As for Dottz, I have seen videos where he gets 1vXed while leading organized groups.5 -
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✭I can't believe we're still doing "nerf NB" posts in 2020.
You're on a damn Magsorc dude — magsorc burst makes NBs look pathetic by comparison. You can land 4 or 5 abilities within the same global cooldown (something that's completely impossible on my magblade) and your one-button escape tool/gap closer/unblockable stun that also does damage is one of the strongest, most useful skills in the game. You have access to the strongest self heal in the game that also does damage for you while you hide behind it, and if meat shields aren't enough for you, you can stack damage shields. You have the cheesiest execute in the game which will get you tons of unearned kills, and then if/when things go south you can just streak away.
In fact, looking at the previous paragraph, maybe we should turn this into a nerf sorc thread.
I don't even play a stamblade, I play a magblade — pretty much universally acknowledged to be the weakest class subset in the game. If I think stamblades are weak enough to not see them as a threat, then you should be fine. If you're losing to stamblades on a the strongest mag class in the game, then the problem likely lies with you.
The build you linked to is decent but pretty basic. You definitely need to have at least one shield up at all times, otherwise you don't really stand a chance. Honestly, I usually find Alcasts PVP builds to be fairly average; same goes for Dottz. In fact, most PVP builds you find online are going to be middling if not downright trash because PVP is so much more personal than PVE. In PVP your playstyle is the most important part your build, and right now the build you're using was was based on someone else's playstyle. That is not optimal.
So maybe consider learning how to play your class first, before going onto the forums and trying to get ZOS to nerf mine (more than they already have.)Edited by Langeston on June 3, 2020 2:23PM11 -
Joinovikova✭✭✭✭
Read carefully Whole comntemt before u post anything please. The problem is u can now set up Nb build who can kill any LA setup fully from stealth before Even server respomt to the client u get actually any hit they do not Even have any clue about they who and from where someone insta kill them... On current performance i also sent screen i can also achieve it on my prety basic Nb gang build. This is simply not healthy to game since every LA mag not only LA but also most of. medium set up get kill before they have chance to get any involvment Or possible reaction mag sorc like every other class can land multiple skill in same time but on all other cases u know someone hit u and u can react ( f.e u get curse with delay meteor show delay ) but in this case u just run and die and u have zero chance to react.. note: Personal atrack is only for noobs. If you think this is healthy to get ik before server respon fine your opinion put arguments why this should be kept..I can't believe we're still doing "nerf NB" posts in 2020.
You're on a damn Magsorc dude — magsorc burst makes NBs look pathetic by comparison. You can land 4 or 5 abilities within the same global cooldown (something that's completely that's impossible on my magblade) and your one-button escape tool/gap closer/unblockable stun that also does damage is one of the strongest, most useful skills in the game. You have access to the strongest self heal in the game that also does damage for you while you hide behind it, and if meat shields aren't enough for you, you can stack damage shields. You have the cheesiest execute in the game which will get you tons of unearned kills, and then if/when things go south you can just streak away.
In fact, looking at the previous paragraph, maybe we should turn this into a nerf sorc thread.
I don't even play a stamblade, I play a magblade — pretty much universally acknowledged to be the weakest class subset in the game. If I think stamblades are weak enough to not see them as a threat, then you should fine. If you're losing to stamblades on a the strongest mag class in the game, then the problem likely lies with you.
The build you linked to is decent but pretty basic. You definitely need to have at least one shield up at all times, otherwise you don't really stand a chance. Honestly, I usually find Alcasts PVP builds to be fairly average; same goes for Dottz. In fact, most PVP builds you find online are going to be middling if not downright trash because PVP is so much more personal than PVE. In PVP your playstyle is the most important part your build, and right now the build you're using was was based on someone else's playstyle. That is not optimal.
So maybe consider learning how to play your class first, before going onto the forums and trying to get ZOS to nerf mine more than they already have.0 -
Joinovikova✭✭✭✭Joinovikova wrote: »
I have my own builds but if it not work okay my i made mistake so i tryed class representative build who has much more skill experience than anyone who post anything here .. also dottzz gamming also other builds no LA build can survive this Even. If i count 8% plus 5% potentates it will still be in snipe case only thing is brasss with potentates and pjisic .... okay i survive this .. but the build will be garbage... this is not healthy to game if you think its healthy its okay,. But there is no reason to any personal attack.. if u thing is okax to have 20k dmg in 0,5s put arguments why is healthy someone is able to kill other player before server respon to player he get dmg.
Alcast is not really an PvPer though. Most good PvPers are on a different level than him. As for Dottz, I have seen videos where he gets 1vXed while leading organized groups.
Every one feel have more experience then most comfirmed experienced player but okay, lets consider other opitions to LA mag set up ( i calculate inpact in previous Posts ) may u see another opitioms which i miss but it sem every LA set ups which Should be avaíable in Pvp get ik from that build before they have chance to react . What i want to have chance to block animate sheild or be aware i am under cast attack somethig like f.e. Meteor then will be zero issue Even someone have 15k on snipe or incap he she will still have masive burst who can ik unguard player but i will have chance to react somehow before and be on guard the game will be playable...0 -
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✭Just learn to play the class dude.
Here, this might help. He's one of the best magsorcs on pc EU, you might learn something and realize you just embarrassed yourself to crazy levels. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMFVcLp4BlH-Ytp_P3hFh0w3 -
Joinovikova✭✭✭✭Nerftheforums wrote: »Just learn to play the class dude.
Here, this might help. He's one of the best magsorcs on pc EU, you might learn something and realize you just embarrassed yourself to crazy levels. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMFVcLp4BlH-Ytp_P3hFh0w
I know him i met him in many bgs, this is simply not L2P issue read before post. THE PROBLEM is i can get instant kill before server respond to my client i get any dmg ... this is problem and this is not healthy to the game thats alll there is zero player skill can be take to account if u want to play LA mag setup which SHOULD be avaible ... if do not have any arguments why ik before server respon to enemy client is good idea..0 -
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✭Joinovikova wrote: »Nerftheforums wrote: »Just learn to play the class dude.
Here, this might help. He's one of the best magsorcs on pc EU, you might learn something and realize you just embarrassed yourself to crazy levels. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMFVcLp4BlH-Ytp_P3hFh0w
I know him i met him in many bgs, this is simply not L2P issue read before post. THE PROBLEM is i can get instant kill before server respond to my client i get any dmg ... this is problem and this is not healthy to the game thats alll there is zero player skill can be take to account if u want to play LA mag setup which SHOULD be avaible ... if do not have any arguments why ik before server respon to enemy client is good idea..
Again, it is latency and your connection that is killing you. Stop asking for class nerfs based on suboptimal connections.
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Nerftheforums✭✭✭✭✭
✭Joinovikova wrote: »Nerftheforums wrote: »Just learn to play the class dude.
Here, this might help. He's one of the best magsorcs on pc EU, you might learn something and realize you just embarrassed yourself to crazy levels. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMFVcLp4BlH-Ytp_P3hFh0w
I know him i met him in many bgs, this is simply not L2P issue read before post. THE PROBLEM is i can get instant kill before server respond to my client i get any dmg ... this is problem and this is not healthy to the game thats alll there is zero player skill can be take to account if u want to play LA mag setup which SHOULD be avaible ... if do not have any arguments why ik before server respon to enemy client is good idea..
Welcome to the eso lagfest0 -
iCaliban✭✭✭✭✭
✭its time to stop listening to crying sorcs that don't know how to play their class and buff magblades
FTFY
Now you know why I focus sorcs. This kind of post is so annoying @Langeston1 -
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