its time to stop listenign crying nb and back to use math omg

Joinovikova

WTF Zos are you serious? i use build recomend by your chosen class representative https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build1/

and get this 20701 dmg in 0.56 s?? non CP based on current shity performance even server work "good" since avrage ping is 100 simply do not have even chance to react and he is able to cast all of this from stealth. i just only see my chararkter instat die ... omg who is responsible for this?...
see evidence on following link https://thumbs.uloz.to/9/c/2/9c261a17c6dab29e3cb909812d1e185f.640x360.jpg?vt=1591135199&sg=o7iBlr9KNw3DJwX-TVdC_g&bl=

you really make this game unplayble ...

stitchboy

I would love for incapacitating strike to hit that hard on my nightblade! I would love to know what build that was.

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stitchboy wrote: »

I would love for incapacitating strike to hit that hard on my nightblade! I would love to know what build that was.

u can also can reach on snipe build ( this si possible to land in at sam time ) 24 251 dmg before server respon to you so even 2heavy 5 medoum builds are instakillable I think purpose of this path was remove heavy tanks from pvp but actuualy only 7/7 hevy build is possible to play all other get insta kill even in BG last oaccis of somehow "work" pvp

GG ZOS GG...https://thumbs.uloz.to/1/b/6/1b6472d0ce3c5d5f2ec9a87f2f08b162.640x360.jpg?vt=1591135199&sg=SRtV9HsfT6M1-5Hy4e3sfQ&bl=

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Joinovikova wrote: »

WTF Zos are you serious? i use build recomend by your chosen class representative https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build1/

and get this 20701 dmg in 0.56 s?? non CP based on current shity performance even server work "good" since avrage ping is 100 simply do not have even chance to react and he is able to cast all of this from stealth. i just only see my chararkter instat die ... omg who is responsible for this?...
see evidence on following link https://thumbs.uloz.to/9/c/2/9c261a17c6dab29e3cb909812d1e185f.640x360.jpg?vt=1591135199&sg=o7iBlr9KNw3DJwX-TVdC_g&bl=

you really make this game unplayble ...

Even me witth total avarage build NMA + marksman + Velidreth+ Molag Kena zero skill on 6medium + 1 heavy (20k resistence with is able to reach in 0,722s 19270 ( it was more but he die so silver shard did not land full dmg and he was not magica build so in worst scenario medium armor https://thumbs.uloz.to/9/e/b/9eba50c8a449c734cb8ed5ca073c0815.640x360.jpg?vt=1591135199&sg=h4wvFOpa8gflOMYOANIhBw&bl= (https://uloz.to/file/zF6iD1p19pjW/evidence-3-png)

idk

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

catnamedwill

Lol, do you know every class can do that with ease?

Sanguinor2

If you Play no defensive set whatsoever in a high Damage patch you shouldnt be surprised About dying quickly tbh...

Casul

catnamedwill wrote: »

Lol, do you know every class can do that with ease?

Some of the builds people conjure are insane. There's a AD stamplar that can hit 10-13k on a biting jabs. Not including the 3.5k burning light.

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idk wrote: »

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

Dottz Gaming also do not have more defence https://dottzgaming.com/build/the-magister-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build/
Actually i use defending and Temporal Guard ... even if I consider my 5 +2 light heavy armor magplar
I will get 20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..

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Sanguinor2 wrote: »

If you Play no defensive set whatsoever in a high Damage patch you shouldnt be surprised About dying quickly tbh...

Crafty Alfiq and Bright-Throat's Boast are boost magica sets so its DEFENSIVE SETS FOR magica builds since they boost sheilds problem is i get killed even before aI have chance to respond somehow

but okay lets consider your think if i used monster sets
Pirate Skeleton give me 1487 Armor ( 2,2 % reduction) and give me 10% chance to survive this so in 90% of case I get instat kill
Mighty Chudan uselse since i keep resocle on my self and also give me + 2,2 % reduction... so i get insytakiled by sniper with zero chance to respond...

combination pirate + chudan 4,4% reduction 23 183 dmg still get instatn kill

lets say i will use Fortified Brass and replace one set ok i will have now +10% resistance so 18k in ( two hit scenario) 21825 in snipe scenarion I survived ... the proble, is i lost 5848 magica ( in case i replace crafty aliiq] or
Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
While you have a drink buff active, your Maximum Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery by 150.

in both case I have zero dmg . zero sustain so ok i survice insta kill sceanrio but have no chance to contine fight and die some second later..

same if i used Fortified Brass with pirate and chudan combination....

Bloodspawn even i hav luck and haev proc to another atac is just 3300 reistance co I get insta kill



only possibility is go to 5heavy + 2 light ... make sorc nearly imposbile to play due to high magica cost but even with this set up I get
20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..


and i defently have even comaprable dmg agins them this is total unbalanced ***.....

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catnamedwill wrote: »

Lol, do you know every class can do that with ease?

no it cant ... no other class can easyli stay cloacked and insta kill you...

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BuildMan wrote: »

catnamedwill wrote: »

Lol, do you know every class can do that with ease?

Some of the builds people conjure are insane. There's a AD stamplar that can hit 10-13k on a biting jabs. Not including the 3.5k burning light.

stamplar u can see them and react ( sheidl dodgel roll or streak or stun or block or.) the main problem is I just run and get instant kill and server only respo i am dead and after I see who kill me... and take in accountt this is on nonCP so in cp they can reach more stupid dmg with proper placed cP points...

catnamedwill

iF you seriously think Alcast's PvP builds are good, you are out of your mind. It is mostly for beginners to PvP. Most actual PvPers will not touch Alcast's PvP builds with a pole.

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Rake wrote: »

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so say how to play light armor magica build on currenty patch if u get instatn kill before server respond to your client ...??

Joinovikova

catnamedwill wrote: »

iF you seriously think Alcast's PvP builds are good, you are out of your mind. It is mostly for beginners to PvP. Most actual PvPers will not touch Alcast's PvP builds with a pole.

so say how to play light armor magica build on currenty patch if u get instatn kill before server respond to your client ...??

nesakinter

The Magsorc build you quoted has 15k resists and no % mitigation. Meaning you are more or less naked for any good stamblade build.

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nesakinter wrote: »

The Magsorc build you quoted has 15k resists and no % mitigation. Meaning you are more or less naked for any good stamblade build.

See calculation on any deff set combination u will die anyway..

idk

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

Dottz Gaming also do not have more defence https://dottzgaming.com/build/the-magister-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build/
Actually i use defending and Temporal Guard ... even if I consider my 5 +2 light heavy armor magplar
I will get 20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..

Again, Dottz is a reference. It is not a bible. ESO PvP builds is not a one size fits all.

I looked at the build and what Dottz has listed. Both are glass cannons builds. When running a glass cannon build the player needs to be that more active in avoiding and mitigating damage.

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idk wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

Dottz Gaming also do not have more defence https://dottzgaming.com/build/the-magister-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build/
Actually i use defending and Temporal Guard ... even if I consider my 5 +2 light heavy armor magplar
I will get 20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..

Again, Dottz is a reference. It is not a bible. ESO PvP builds is not a one size fits all.

I looked at the build and what Dottz has listed. Both are glass cannons builds. When running a glass cannon build the player needs to be that more active in avoiding and mitigating damage.

... Engine Guardian and seducewr are TYPICAL GLASS CANON SETS.. much mich beete then NMA and clever alchemist.. I under stand nb main childer have chrismas they finaly get blade/ bow of woe on their class but
okay what buidl light magica build set tup u suggest.. to be able to do decnwe dmg have do ntpo be oom in 10s

Joinovikova

idk wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

Dottz Gaming also do not have more defence https://dottzgaming.com/build/the-magister-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build/
Actually i use defending and Temporal Guard ... even if I consider my 5 +2 light heavy armor magplar
I will get 20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..

Again, Dottz is a reference. It is not a bible. ESO PvP builds is not a one size fits all.

I looked at the build and what Dottz has listed. Both are glass cannons builds. When running a glass cannon build the player needs to be that more active in avoiding and mitigating damage.

And tell me how how to avoid dmg which came fully from stealth ????

Czekoludek

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

Dottz Gaming also do not have more defence https://dottzgaming.com/build/the-magister-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build/
Actually i use defending and Temporal Guard ... even if I consider my 5 +2 light heavy armor magplar
I will get 20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..

Again, Dottz is a reference. It is not a bible. ESO PvP builds is not a one size fits all.

I looked at the build and what Dottz has listed. Both are glass cannons builds. When running a glass cannon build the player needs to be that more active in avoiding and mitigating damage.

And tell me how how to avoid dmg which came fully from stealth ????

Who is complaining about ganks in 2020 lol

WuffyCerulei

I mean I get ganked on the occassion, and I’ve been pvping for years. However, it happens when I’m not paying attention. Thus, it’s my own fault for leaving myself open. Stamblades are usually built to hit hard right out of stealth, but they’re also glass cannons. Learning to avoid getting ganked, or just learning to counter them takes time in pvp. It’s a legit “git gud” situation. Just know gankers love picking on low-levels/low CP, afk people, people alone or outside of a group, etc. Essentially people who are sitting ducks.

PS: Not standing in a trillion aoes and in melee range helps too.

idk

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

Dottz Gaming also do not have more defence https://dottzgaming.com/build/the-magister-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build/
Actually i use defending and Temporal Guard ... even if I consider my 5 +2 light heavy armor magplar
I will get 20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..

Again, Dottz is a reference. It is not a bible. ESO PvP builds is not a one size fits all.

I looked at the build and what Dottz has listed. Both are glass cannons builds. When running a glass cannon build the player needs to be that more active in avoiding and mitigating damage.

And tell me how how to avoid dmg which came fully from stealth ????

I have no idea what you were doing at the time.

I have not been killed by a ganker in several years. When I have been attacked by a ganker, the best they have done is taken most of my health. They tend to not be very skilled players and immediately cloak even when they came short of killing the player. To which I then sneak around, find them, kill them while preventing them from cloaking again.

Dojohoda

Were your shields down? Players watch for that.

Vietfox

That nb simply caught you with the shields down, and that damage is normal against someone in light armor with no shields. Also keep in mind that that Incap was boosted with the follow up passive.

The fact that you are copying builds from others makes me think that you might not be very experienced in pvp, so next time try to record your gameplay and see what you did wrong.

Xvorg

Joinovikova wrote: »

Rake wrote: »

Sadly, yet another prime example of L2P

so say how to play light armor magica build on currenty patch if u get instatn kill before server respond to your client ...??

Playing light armor on PvP? If you don't know how to mitigate in heavy armor, how do you pretend to do it in LA?

Xvorg

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

Dottz Gaming also do not have more defence https://dottzgaming.com/build/the-magister-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build/
Actually i use defending and Temporal Guard ... even if I consider my 5 +2 light heavy armor magplar
I will get 20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..

Again, Dottz is a reference. It is not a bible. ESO PvP builds is not a one size fits all.

I looked at the build and what Dottz has listed. Both are glass cannons builds. When running a glass cannon build the player needs to be that more active in avoiding and mitigating damage.

... Engine Guardian and seducewr are TYPICAL GLASS CANON SETS.. much mich beete then NMA and clever alchemist.. I under stand nb main childer have chrismas they finaly get blade/ bow of woe on their class but
okay what buidl light magica build set tup u suggest.. to be able to do decnwe dmg have do ntpo be oom in 10s

Ebgine guardian a glass cannon set?

I think I've read everything

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Alcast does not play all those builds, has probably not played most of them in a serious manner and with the ones he actually does play he might swap out a skill or two.

Alcast has a great reference but it is not a bible.

Dottz Gaming also do not have more defence https://dottzgaming.com/build/the-magister-magicka-sorcerer-pvp-build/
Actually i use defending and Temporal Guard ... even if I consider my 5 +2 light heavy armor magplar
I will get 20 613 dmg in snipe case
17595 in second case so one more suprise attack and I am dead..

Again, Dottz is a reference. It is not a bible. ESO PvP builds is not a one size fits all.

I looked at the build and what Dottz has listed. Both are glass cannons builds. When running a glass cannon build the player needs to be that more active in avoiding and mitigating damage.

And tell me how how to avoid dmg which came fully from stealth ????

Any time you hear a cue, dodge roll.

PvP in LA is reactive, you must avoid at all cost being touched by the opponent. Is like playing Oblivion at max difficult

Vietfox

Xvorg wrote: »

Joinovikova wrote: »

... Engine Guardian and seducewr are TYPICAL GLASS CANON SETS.. much mich beete then NMA and clever alchemist.. I under stand nb main childer have chrismas they finaly get blade/ bow of woe on their class but
okay what buidl light magica build set tup u suggest.. to be able to do decnwe dmg have do ntpo be oom in 10s

Ebgine guardian a glass cannon set?

I think I've read everything

Lmao @Xvorg i didn't read that part, i'm dying

Edit: Engine guardian AND Seducer

Langeston

its time to stop listening to crying sorcs that don't know how to play their class and buff magblades
FTFY

Xvorg

I think the biggest mistake for new players is consider themselves as a part of a team when talking about classes, without even trying other class.

Sure, Sorcs have been nerfed a lot and they are just a shadow of what they used to be. For Nbs the story is quite similar.

What is not acceptable is to believe that one class is OP without addressing their problems. The only thing NBs have is high burst dmg, once you learn how to counter that, pure ganker NBs are easy preys on any build.

Regarding LA Sorc, if you are unable to a "piano playing" style, swapping weapons and keeping shields up, then LA Sorc is not for you. Sadly, one of the things that harms the most that playing style is lag and gankers know it.

Besides, ZoS "evil genie" policy always, always imply a nerf on a class that asks for nerf on another classes. Do you know how much it used to last ward when the game was launched? What about cloak purging up to 5 effects? Those were amazing tools we all lost because of the nerf cries in the forum...

MashmalloMan

Langeston wrote: »

its time to stop listening to crying sorcs that don't know how to play their class and buff magblades
FTFY

Awesome for you +1

Xvorg wrote: »

I think the biggest mistake for new players is consider themselves as a part of a team when talking about classes, without even trying other class.

Sure, Sorcs have been nerfed a lot and they are just a shadow of what they used to be. For Nbs the story is quite similar.

What is not acceptable is to believe that one class is OP without addressing their problems. The only thing NBs have is high burst dmg, once you learn how to counter that, pure ganker NBs are easy preys on any build.

Regarding LA Sorc, if you are unable to a "piano playing" style, swapping weapons and keeping shields up, then LA Sorc is not for you. Sadly, one of the things that harms the most that playing style is lag and gankers know it.

Besides, ZoS "evil genie" policy always, always imply a nerf on a class that asks for nerf on another classes. Do you know how much it used to last ward when the game was launched? What about cloak purging up to 5 effects? Those were amazing tools we all lost because of the nerf cries in the forum...

Insightful for you +1