Joinovikova wrote: »Berek_Bloodfang wrote: »When people say snipe is fine...... lol
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/91647514
Do you not realize you got hit by 5 1-second cast time abilities... The problem is in Cyrodiil the lag is so bad you have no idea you were getting hit until you were already dead. You have someone hit you with 5 dizzy swings I you will also be dead.
But Dizzy doesn't do that unlike maybe if the server is super laggy. Snipe does that regardless and it does so frequently. It is the skill that is broken. Stop defending that bs.
its not only about snipe that desync can be achieved with any ranged cast abilty. in this case snipe it is not problem..
Berek_Bloodfang wrote: »When people say snipe is fine...... lol
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/91647514
Do you not realize you got hit by 5 1-second cast time abilities... The problem is in Cyrodiil the lag is so bad you have no idea you were getting hit until you were already dead. You have someone hit you with 5 dizzy swings I you will also be dead.
Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
Joinovikova wrote: »Berek_Bloodfang wrote: »When people say snipe is fine...... lol
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/91647514
Do you not realize you got hit by 5 1-second cast time abilities... The problem is in Cyrodiil the lag is so bad you have no idea you were getting hit until you were already dead. You have someone hit you with 5 dizzy swings I you will also be dead.
But Dizzy doesn't do that unlike maybe if the server is super laggy. Snipe does that regardless and it does so frequently. It is the skill that is broken. Stop defending that bs.
its not only about snipe that desync can be achieved with any ranged cast abilty. in this case snipe it is not problem..
No. Snipe itself IS the problem.
Toc de Malsvi wrote: »Snipe only seems more egregious because of how it is used.
You cannot Crystal Blast from stealth, and it doesn’t have the range. Spammables generally do so little damage that they aren’t worth spamming to hope for a desync.
Most other desyncs happen when several players roll up on you at once and ult dump. Those times you are dying either way most of the time. Further, you don’t see a single skill spammed over and over in those situations.
Being able to spam a high burst projectile skill at long range, opening from stealth, makes snipe considerably easier to recognize and target as a problem. Players are often not surrounded by others when they die which further reinforces the belief that they aren’t lagging.
Joinovikova wrote: »...there are other Pvp ic, bg where desync is not such problem and snipe is okay..
Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
Goregrinder wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
You just described all burst combos lmao. That's the point of burst comboing, figuring out how to do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible before hots can start to heal someone. If you do not like that style of gameplay, then ESO is just not for you.
And I find playing a class cannon that can get 1 shot if you make a mistake or get caught pretty fun with it's own set of challenges. You have to dedicate your entire build to get like 3 abilities to hit hard. It's a high risk high reward playstyle, just like any class canon spec in any MMORPG on any plant within any galaxy.
Perma block, ball grouping, brawling, tanking, glass canon, hybrid, healing, etc. All valid playstyles of which we all have to chose from. if you do not like playing certain playstyles, you can certainly choose other ways to play. But you can't force anyone else to play how you want them to play. If a build counters your build, then too bad so sad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Welcome to MMORPG PVP.
MurderMostFoul wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
You just described all burst combos lmao. That's the point of burst comboing, figuring out how to do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible before hots can start to heal someone. If you do not like that style of gameplay, then ESO is just not for you.
And I find playing a class cannon that can get 1 shot if you make a mistake or get caught pretty fun with it's own set of challenges. You have to dedicate your entire build to get like 3 abilities to hit hard. It's a high risk high reward playstyle, just like any class canon spec in any MMORPG on any plant within any galaxy.
Perma block, ball grouping, brawling, tanking, glass canon, hybrid, healing, etc. All valid playstyles of which we all have to chose from. if you do not like playing certain playstyles, you can certainly choose other ways to play. But you can't force anyone else to play how you want them to play. If a build counters your build, then too bad so sad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Welcome to MMORPG PVP.
2 or 3 simultaneously landing snipes is not a "burst combo." 2 snipes should land over the course of 1 second, 3 snipes should land over 2 seconds. Those time windows permit defensive reactions. When snipe desyncs, they all land at the same time. This is not by design. The game is not supposed to allow that. But snipe is buggy and people exploit that.
Goregrinder wrote: »MurderMostFoul wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
You just described all burst combos lmao. That's the point of burst comboing, figuring out how to do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible before hots can start to heal someone. If you do not like that style of gameplay, then ESO is just not for you.
And I find playing a class cannon that can get 1 shot if you make a mistake or get caught pretty fun with it's own set of challenges. You have to dedicate your entire build to get like 3 abilities to hit hard. It's a high risk high reward playstyle, just like any class canon spec in any MMORPG on any plant within any galaxy.
Perma block, ball grouping, brawling, tanking, glass canon, hybrid, healing, etc. All valid playstyles of which we all have to chose from. if you do not like playing certain playstyles, you can certainly choose other ways to play. But you can't force anyone else to play how you want them to play. If a build counters your build, then too bad so sad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Welcome to MMORPG PVP.
2 or 3 simultaneously landing snipes is not a "burst combo." 2 snipes should land over the course of 1 second, 3 snipes should land over 2 seconds. Those time windows permit defensive reactions. When snipe desyncs, they all land at the same time. This is not by design. The game is not supposed to allow that. But snipe is buggy and people exploit that.
No, Snipe from stealth>LA>Silver Shards would be my default combo. Sometimes you can go Snipe>Snipe>LA>Silver Shards. If they are beyond 30m then your only combo is >Snipe>Snipe>Snipe>Snipe as it has 40m range.
Your problem isn't with snipe, it is with desyncs, which is a technical issue, not a design issue. Snipe is fine.
Goregrinder wrote: »MurderMostFoul wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
You just described all burst combos lmao. That's the point of burst comboing, figuring out how to do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible before hots can start to heal someone. If you do not like that style of gameplay, then ESO is just not for you.
And I find playing a class cannon that can get 1 shot if you make a mistake or get caught pretty fun with it's own set of challenges. You have to dedicate your entire build to get like 3 abilities to hit hard. It's a high risk high reward playstyle, just like any class canon spec in any MMORPG on any plant within any galaxy.
Perma block, ball grouping, brawling, tanking, glass canon, hybrid, healing, etc. All valid playstyles of which we all have to chose from. if you do not like playing certain playstyles, you can certainly choose other ways to play. But you can't force anyone else to play how you want them to play. If a build counters your build, then too bad so sad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Welcome to MMORPG PVP.
2 or 3 simultaneously landing snipes is not a "burst combo." 2 snipes should land over the course of 1 second, 3 snipes should land over 2 seconds. Those time windows permit defensive reactions. When snipe desyncs, they all land at the same time. This is not by design. The game is not supposed to allow that. But snipe is buggy and people exploit that.
No, Snipe from stealth>LA>Silver Shards would be my default combo. Sometimes you can go Snipe>Snipe>LA>Silver Shards. If they are beyond 30m then your only combo is >Snipe>Snipe>Snipe>Snipe as it has 40m range.
Your problem isn't with snipe, it is with desyncs, which is a technical issue, not a design issue. Snipe is fine.
It's a technical issue that is around for years now. If ZOS can't / won't fix it, it might be time to finally change the skill.
Goregrinder wrote: »MurderMostFoul wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
You just described all burst combos lmao. That's the point of burst comboing, figuring out how to do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible before hots can start to heal someone. If you do not like that style of gameplay, then ESO is just not for you.
And I find playing a class cannon that can get 1 shot if you make a mistake or get caught pretty fun with it's own set of challenges. You have to dedicate your entire build to get like 3 abilities to hit hard. It's a high risk high reward playstyle, just like any class canon spec in any MMORPG on any plant within any galaxy.
Perma block, ball grouping, brawling, tanking, glass canon, hybrid, healing, etc. All valid playstyles of which we all have to chose from. if you do not like playing certain playstyles, you can certainly choose other ways to play. But you can't force anyone else to play how you want them to play. If a build counters your build, then too bad so sad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Welcome to MMORPG PVP.
2 or 3 simultaneously landing snipes is not a "burst combo." 2 snipes should land over the course of 1 second, 3 snipes should land over 2 seconds. Those time windows permit defensive reactions. When snipe desyncs, they all land at the same time. This is not by design. The game is not supposed to allow that. But snipe is buggy and people exploit that.
No, Snipe from stealth>LA>Silver Shards would be my default combo. Sometimes you can go Snipe>Snipe>LA>Silver Shards. If they are beyond 30m then your only combo is >Snipe>Snipe>Snipe>Snipe as it has 40m range.
Your problem isn't with snipe, it is with desyncs, which is a technical issue, not a design issue. Snipe is fine.
It's a technical issue that is around for years now. If ZOS can't / won't fix it, it might be time to finally change the skill.
xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »You must be one of the people using the high risk hard to connect skill called Dizzy swing and avoid using clearly over performing no risk high reward skill called Snipe out of pure honor for combat. Respect!
Dizzy spammers and snipe spammers have been in the game for awhile....as well as this dreadful performance.
Snipe is not the only desync culprit in the game, lol.
Just learn to die, rez, and play.
If you’re going to make a nerf thread then add all the offenders and follow my advice above^
smh
Goregrinder wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
You just described all burst combos lmao. That's the point of burst comboing, figuring out how to do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible before hots can start to heal someone. If you do not like that style of gameplay, then ESO is just not for you.
And I find playing a class cannon that can get 1 shot if you make a mistake or get caught pretty fun with it's own set of challenges. You have to dedicate your entire build to get like 3 abilities to hit hard. It's a high risk high reward playstyle, just like any class canon spec in any MMORPG on any plant within any galaxy.
Perma block, ball grouping, brawling, tanking, glass canon, hybrid, healing, etc. All valid playstyles of which we all have to chose from. if you do not like playing certain playstyles, you can certainly choose other ways to play. But you can't force anyone else to play how you want them to play. If a build counters your build, then too bad so sad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Welcome to MMORPG PVP.
Goregrinder wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
You just described all burst combos lmao. That's the point of burst comboing, figuring out how to do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible before hots can start to heal someone. If you do not like that style of gameplay, then ESO is just not for you.
And I find playing a class cannon that can get 1 shot if you make a mistake or get caught pretty fun with it's own set of challenges. You have to dedicate your entire build to get like 3 abilities to hit hard. It's a high risk high reward playstyle, just like any class canon spec in any MMORPG on any plant within any galaxy.
Perma block, ball grouping, brawling, tanking, glass canon, hybrid, healing, etc. All valid playstyles of which we all have to chose from. if you do not like playing certain playstyles, you can certainly choose other ways to play. But you can't force anyone else to play how you want them to play. If a build counters your build, then too bad so sad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Welcome to MMORPG PVP.
This is not a burst combo, this is exploiting a games poor performance, Any and every other gank build has been nerfed in to obscurity and made unusable, they literally nerfed both elegance and overload light attacks to stop the blob magsorc gank build because no surprise its was a buggy abuse of poor connection and not uniform travel times. Why is snipe the only skill that seems to always and forever avoid the nerf hammer? To appease and keep the zerglings happy, there always needs to be a super crutch to help them farm tier 3 rewards.
Calculated, precise shot can not be dodged or blocked with a wooden stave.Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »The very name... SNIPE... implies its meant to be a calculated, precise, shot...
Calculated, precise shot can not be dodged or blocked with a wooden stave.Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »The very name... SNIPE... implies its meant to be a calculated, precise, shot...
Salix_alba wrote: »Nerf 'Nerf Snipe threads'
Goregrinder wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Mankeyyyyy wrote: »Well I literally can't even pvp because I get snipe desynced 3 times an hour. If you play on xbox you can probably relate, but my only deaths in cyrodiil are to either snipe desync or keep flip load screens. But I've never seen Dswing desync anyone so I would like to see clips of that. I do remember "macro slicing" but that has been mostly fixed for a long time now.
Only 3 times? So the other 54 minutes it's business as usual for ya?
If you enjoy challenging gameplay in PvP and play outside of a zerg or in stealth spamming snipe you would quickly realise how overpowered and consistently the snipe exploit is abused, many videos will show you how to get off 2-3 snipes followed by a poison inject which allows all to hit at once, Im yet to see any other other ability be spammed and be turned in to a burst combo
You just described all burst combos lmao. That's the point of burst comboing, figuring out how to do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible before hots can start to heal someone. If you do not like that style of gameplay, then ESO is just not for you.
And I find playing a class cannon that can get 1 shot if you make a mistake or get caught pretty fun with it's own set of challenges. You have to dedicate your entire build to get like 3 abilities to hit hard. It's a high risk high reward playstyle, just like any class canon spec in any MMORPG on any plant within any galaxy.
Perma block, ball grouping, brawling, tanking, glass canon, hybrid, healing, etc. All valid playstyles of which we all have to chose from. if you do not like playing certain playstyles, you can certainly choose other ways to play. But you can't force anyone else to play how you want them to play. If a build counters your build, then too bad so sad. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Welcome to MMORPG PVP.
This is not a burst combo, this is exploiting a games poor performance, Any and every other gank build has been nerfed in to obscurity and made unusable, they literally nerfed both elegance and overload light attacks to stop the blob magsorc gank build because no surprise its was a buggy abuse of poor connection and not uniform travel times. Why is snipe the only skill that seems to always and forever avoid the nerf hammer? To appease and keep the zerglings happy, there always needs to be a super crutch to help them farm tier 3 rewards.