Maintenance for the week of April 6:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
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PF1901✭✭✭Woah - lots of foaming at the mouth in this thread. Rabid brats unleashed. Have a pleasant evening
Oh yeah, I can't login.0 -
Mutey✭✭Meanwhile at Zenimax... #2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd8vl5LJoM8
This made me laugh so much. Thanks
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ZharaX✭✭✭There is still Cookies and/or Cheese to all the W(h)ine!
The picture on the wall is chaotic.
I don't want to look at it, but when I do,
I cannot speak because of the confusion in my head!0 -
Pipsissiwa wrote: »Sometimes I wish more people wrote code. You can test something to death and still some random unexpected set of circumstances that somehow never came up in months suddenly does, and all hell breaks loose. The amount of code in an MMO like this one is insanely huge - It is quite possible that many bugs never came to light, and never would have even in years of testing. Only once live and with all the unpredictableness of real players, connections, setups etc will some issues ever appear. It is just how it is. It is completely impossible to test every circumstance when thousands of unique players and internet connections are involved, even with a big beta. This is why some bugs only show up after years and years with no problems.
Every time we get 'unexpected maintenance' (are people really still getting angry about games industry euphemisms? We all know what they mean, does it really matter?) it means something important is getting fixed. Fine with me as it should mean less downtime in the future.
While i don't disagree with you , actually you are 100% right , i do question the fact that in 16+ years of MMO , always the SAME issues pop pup as if they never seem to learn how to do the important things right the first time.2 -
7Montana7✭✭
Real life:Michaeljdaveyb16_ESO wrote: »http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/82976/eu-maintenance-4-19-14-12-25pm-edt-4-25pm-gmt#latest
Official Thread
estimated 2 hour downtime
remember real life, that thing that exists outside of EOS, well it's time to go do it for a while.
I'm scared.
The graphics are amazing, but the gameplay sucks.
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Neizir✭✭✭✭✭Meanwhile at Zenimax... #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7IDteDPW5g Neizir Stormstrider
EU Megaserver
UK▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬I have a fancy signature.▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬1 -
The new downtime theme video for ESO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q
Enjoy. I am out flying the through the Galaxy until I find Tamriel again.
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Ha ha brilliant!masterdtox wrote: »
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RPGDad✭✭That's great, but what about the NA server issues such as the endless loading when moving from zone to zone?0 -
"EU MAINTENANCE - 4/19/14 @ 12:25PM EDT / 4:25PM GMT
- We are aware that some of you are having trouble logging into the European megaserver. We are currently investigating, and will let you know as soon as we have an update. Thanks!"
They can't even get the date or the date format right! THIS IS EUROPE!!! IT'S THE 20TH FFS
It is still the 19th. However, it is an American date format. I think they're the only country in the world that uses this format.1 -
sedmipatuljakeb17_ESOSoul ShrivenPipsissiwa wrote: »Sometimes I wish more people wrote code. You can test something to death and still some random unexpected set of circumstances that somehow never came up in months suddenly does, and all hell breaks loose. The amount of code in an MMO like this one is insanely huge - It is quite possible that many bugs never came to light, and never would have even in years of testing. Only once live and with all the unpredictableness of real players, connections, setups etc will some issues ever appear. It is just how it is. It is completely impossible to test every circumstance when thousands of unique players and internet connections are involved, even with a big beta. This is why some bugs only show up after years and years with no problems.
Every time we get 'unexpected maintenance' (are people really still getting angry about games industry euphemisms? We all know what they mean, does it really matter?) it means something important is getting fixed. Fine with me as it should mean less downtime in the future.
You have absolutely right.
But! In case of payed infrastructure service you must have enough redundancy, disaster recovery solution, etc. At least restart servers, bring them up ASAP, and then investigate logs and things. Repair and server down on next scheduled maintenance or in emergency maintenance at less peak hours.
...sorry for my bad English.
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Kaisino✭grtormand3_ESO wrote: »That's great, but what about the NA server issues such as the endless loading when moving from zone to zone?
What? I'll take your endless loading times if you want server that is down.3 -
7Montana7✭✭
Happens on EU server too.grtormand3_ESO wrote: »That's great, but what about the NA server issues such as the endless loading when moving from zone to zone?
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sedmipatuljakeb17_ESO wrote: »Pipsissiwa wrote: »Sometimes I wish more people wrote code. You can test something to death and still some random unexpected set of circumstances that somehow never came up in months suddenly does, and all hell breaks loose. The amount of code in an MMO like this one is insanely huge - It is quite possible that many bugs never came to light, and never would have even in years of testing. Only once live and with all the unpredictableness of real players, connections, setups etc will some issues ever appear. It is just how it is. It is completely impossible to test every circumstance when thousands of unique players and internet connections are involved, even with a big beta. This is why some bugs only show up after years and years with no problems.
Every time we get 'unexpected maintenance' (are people really still getting angry about games industry euphemisms? We all know what they mean, does it really matter?) it means something important is getting fixed. Fine with me as it should mean less downtime in the future.
You have absolutely right.
But! In case of payed infrastructure service you must have enough redundancy, disaster recovery solution, etc. At least restart servers, bring them up ASAP, and then investigate logs and things. Repair and server down on next scheduled maintenance or in emergency maintenance at less peak hours.
...sorry for my bad English.
So true
but the cost for this in a MMO environment is to high to actually setup. Now on the other hand NA and EU servers should be a copy of each other code wise , except language specific things , which wouldn't cause these kind of issues anyways , so why don't we have the same issues as NA , and they not the same as we have? Poor management? 0 -
Monyan✭✭I used to be an adventurer like you.
But then I took a maintenance to the knee.Edited by Monyan on April 19, 2014 5:55PMHail Sithis!3 -
YeevleSoul ShrivenThat reminds me, when are they moving the euro server to a place that is actually in Europe? Not moaning just wondering.0
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Valerien✭✭✭Kingslayer wrote: »
Thats funny.
I'm imagining that is going on for 2 hours while they wait for the technical person to come in and reboot the server. Why he has to live so far from the server farm is anyones guess but once he is in I am sure we will get a better eta on how long its going to be.0 -
That reminds me, when are they moving the euro server to a place that is actually in Europe? Not moaning just wondering.
Only two possibilities here :
- Issues of late cause them to do this asap.
- They wait till EU customer base drops to the number they have set to not implement EU based servers.1 -
GREAT.... IWAS HAVING MY TOPIC AND THEY DECIDED TO CLOSE IT... well zenimax good work withppl skills....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bdeizHM9OU
i would say its pretty like that...meaning zenimax is like Die antwood:D0 -
Kingslayer wrote: »
Thats funny.
I'm imagining that is going on for 2 hours while they wait for the technical person to come in and reboot the server. Why he has to live so far from the server farm is anyones guess but once he is in I am sure we will get a better eta on how long its going to be.
Nah you don't need to be in the office to reboot or even turn on servers. Unless someone unplugged the power
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✭✭Seriously people... Is it that hard? The login servers crashed (possibly DDoS'ing?) - that isn't exactly something they can give 15 minutes notice of...1 -
sedmipatuljakeb17_ESOSoul Shrivensedmipatuljakeb17_ESO wrote: »
You have absolutely right.
But! In case of payed infrastructure service you must have enough redundancy, disaster recovery solution, etc. At least restart servers, bring them up ASAP, and then investigate logs and things. Repair and server down on next scheduled maintenance or in emergency maintenance at less peak hours.
...sorry for my bad English.
So true but the cost for this in a MMO environment is to high to actually setup. Now on the other hand NA and EU servers should be a copy of each other code wise , except language specific things , which wouldn't cause these kind of issues anyways , so why don't we have the same issues as NA , and they not the same as we have? Poor management?
I don't think it's too expensive. That's why we pay them 15$ a month while real expenses per player (iirc based on 300-400k player population) are 2-3$. Let someone correct my numbers if I'm wrong. There is a plenty of resources to ensure decent level of service.
Regarding management, it seems like that.
...sorry for my bad English.
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✭The Elder Scrolls Offline- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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crush83✭✭✭✭For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".
It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.1
http://youtu.be/-2ZkJd4u0Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRubp9YfY7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeIGCHmS500