Casterial wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

"the game has seen record numbers of players in ESO these last few weeks – numbers that we haven’t seen since console launch back in 2015. There’s been strain on the servers, but they are holding up well – a testament to the team and the hard work they’ve done over the past year on performance and stability." ... Rich Lambert 04/29/2020

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681

And there you have it...

Rich as a source lol, I doubt he plays

EU got boost to server performance while US didn't, and yes record number which Steam says theyre still averaging ~20,000 players. So Probably ~150,000 online at once for both servers.


https://steamcharts.com/app/306130
27,325
playing 23 min ago

27,644.6 average, their April average was 28,467.7 and before that 14,755.9, heres the thing.... This lag started around the time they nerfed DOTs to the ground with their "server improvements" around November 2019, November 2019 11,531.8.

The lag has been getting worse and worse, and for me it was "November" when Cyrodiil started to become "Can't even go into it." I could semi-play and withstand the lag before that. Now, as you saw in my video its "Okay you did your ult, lemme' hold block for 10 seconds. OH THERE IT IS!!! *unblocks* 200 other skills finally go off.... gg."

Before that, at least we could play, now like others are saying you just sit there waiting for your turn to fire off a skill. RuneScape works better than this and has same amount of players.

While they see an increase in players, they should double their game server allocation during this, but only EU got to see that improvement?

Sorry to burst your EU is better bubble, but it's 12:00 am CET atm of writing and I got an 140-200 ping in overworld. Dungeons are unplayable and I don't even wanna check pvp right now.

kwando wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

"the game has seen record numbers of players in ESO these last few weeks – numbers that we haven’t seen since console launch back in 2015. There’s been strain on the servers, but they are holding up well – a testament to the team and the hard work they’ve done over the past year on performance and stability." ... Rich Lambert 04/29/2020

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681

And there you have it...

Rich as a source lol, I doubt he plays

EU got boost to server performance while US didn't, and yes record number which Steam says theyre still averaging ~20,000 players. So Probably ~150,000 online at once for both servers.


https://steamcharts.com/app/306130
27,325
playing 23 min ago

27,644.6 average, their April average was 28,467.7 and before that 14,755.9, heres the thing.... This lag started around the time they nerfed DOTs to the ground with their "server improvements" around November 2019, November 2019 11,531.8.

The lag has been getting worse and worse, and for me it was "November" when Cyrodiil started to become "Can't even go into it." I could semi-play and withstand the lag before that. Now, as you saw in my video its "Okay you did your ult, lemme' hold block for 10 seconds. OH THERE IT IS!!! *unblocks* 200 other skills finally go off.... gg."

Before that, at least we could play, now like others are saying you just sit there waiting for your turn to fire off a skill. RuneScape works better than this and has same amount of players.

While they see an increase in players, they should double their game server allocation during this, but only EU got to see that improvement?

Sorry to burst your EU is better bubble, but it's 12:00 am CET atm of writing and I got an 140-200 ping in overworld. Dungeons are unplayable and I don't even wanna check pvp right now.

EU got server performance boost, you have higher population though. US and EU are unplayable because of the developers, who btw warned me for saying doubt he plays 😂😂😂😂😂

Shantu wrote: »

itsfatbass wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

"the game has seen record numbers of players in ESO these last few weeks – numbers that we haven’t seen since console launch back in 2015. There’s been strain on the servers, but they are holding up well – a testament to the team and the hard work they’ve done over the past year on performance and stability." ... Rich Lambert 04/29/2020

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681

And there you have it...

Thing is, that still isn't a valid excuse. ALL things involving networks, the internet and connectivity have had their demand increased significantly. Every other company I work for or utilize for these services have stepped up their games and I am still getting what I paid for, WITHOUT any degradation of quality.

Regardless, ZOS should ALREADY be prepared for a large influx of players, I mean that should ALWAYS be their goal regardless of pandemics forcing it or not!

I don't see this as an excuse...more a very curious perceptual difference between players and those than run the show.

I do understand, however, there is a significant difference in the perception of performance between those who engage in content that benefits from precise client/server synchronization and those who don't (which I suspect is a huge majority of players).

Zergers don't see lag, but they also only use 1 skill.

I just can't.... I'll get on and do a duel outside of Cyrodiil and the moment it says "PVP" I gain ~60 more ping and on the game server it feels like more..... What has happened to this game?

Casterial wrote: »

I just can't.... I'll get on and do a duel outside of Cyrodiil and the moment it says "PVP" I gain ~60 more ping and on the game server it feels like more..... What has happened to this game?

The game engine was probably written to expected specs for population, game effects, inventory, map area(s), several other things like that and the gameplay itself has blown through the optimal parameters.

twev wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

I just can't.... I'll get on and do a duel outside of Cyrodiil and the moment it says "PVP" I gain ~60 more ping and on the game server it feels like more..... What has happened to this game?

The game engine was probably written to expected specs for population, game effects, inventory, map area(s), several other things like that and the gameplay itself has blown through the optimal parameters.

Majority of combat was client side for a very long time (which is why in the past some things didn't happen on your client but happened on theirs) But hackers became rampant and ZOS did a quick fix stitch and moved all of combat to the server side. This was the beginning of the massive decline.

They then added destructible gates and bridges on an already unstable server load and then from there tweaked animation to make the lag and desync far worse. The original reasoning behind fixing animation was to "Fix desyncs" which are far worse now and the lag is even more horrid since our animations have to play and with the server, animations take a long time to queue, before when cancelled they did not have to queue.

Kadoin wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

I just can't.... I'll get on and do a duel outside of Cyrodiil and the moment it says "PVP" I gain ~60 more ping and on the game server it feels like more..... What has happened to this game?

I dueled with my brother and Cyro was dead at the time (early morning), and even then it was a laggy and desynced mess. But hey, at least the game can prompt me to check my e-mail for a login code for the billionth time!

I just closed the game and went to forums because my e-mail password is too long to type every time I want to log in.

Yeah, its sad I have been here longer than a MAJORITY of the development team thats left, those that were here as long as me probably see the pain but can't do anything because this game has become a money hungry microtransaction ridden game with poor optimization and performance.

Performance is really terrible rn. I've been trying to play vCR and EVERYTIME we start the fight, we get 2 DCs at least. If we don't have DCs, we have adds and minis dancing around and everything is desync.

dbgager wrote: »

100msec is only 1/10 of a second. An average eyeblink is 100mSec. In other words your data gets to the server and returns in the time it takes to blink your eye. That's pretty darn fast. Even 300 msec is not very long and your not going to notice the delay very much. I sure would not complain about 127 msec however. Just comparing a number to another number and saying its worse than before doesn't mean much when you actually think about how long it really is. It never can be instantaneous. That's impossible.

I think you didn't read at all.

The game will say 127 ping, the ping test will say 67, Resource Monitor will say 50, 100, then spike to 6000 then drop back down continuously.

However, we already came to a conclusion that our /latency is a lie.

Heres a video of the game at 147 latency, thats .147 of a second, right? Think again, try like 5 seconds+
https://youtu.be/OCUfljXGomw

I work in game development, I know about crap like this. Things like this show how optimized and stressed the server is.

Everyone in the damn world would be so happy if /latency was telling the truth, what we're complaining about is how they say we're at "x ping" and the game server is clearly showing something far worse. This video already disproved your statement.

dbgager wrote: »

There not adding the latency numbers if that's what your suggesting..

Everything about /latency is messed up

dbgager wrote: »

How fast your PC react sis also according to how good of a pc it is. Doesn't matter much if the data gets back in 150 msec if your PC is in the middle of a 1 or 2 second freeze. Lag involves much more than just the server. I take it nobody has considered that however.

I run every game on ultra at 100+ fps and 0 latency issues, do you continue to make excuses for ZOS? Its their architecture to their server programming. Over the past several years it has steadily declined until it finally hit the threshold it has hit now.

If I can run the latest, newest, highest graphic MMOs and have 0 latency issues and have very high fps, is it still my fault for ESO not working?

You don't understand the technology architecture here.

A 1 to 2 second freeze(to everything, I wasn't frozen) is often a bad hard drive, ESO is sitting on an m.2, an m.2 is WAY faster than an SSD, an SSD is WAY faster than an HDD.

ESO barely uses 30% of my CPU, barely 40% of my GPU, barely even touches my maximum RAM, but yes, its my equipment. Lol just stop.

Watch the video again, leap happens at :03 seconds, leap finally hits the area at 0:08, DB dropped at 0:04 seconds, dawnbreaker finally hits at 0:08. I wasn't frozen, I was moving. I was using my skills, nothing was going off.

All the skills caught up around the same time, same delay. Those 3 attacking me were all very confused once it happened as well.

More and more ppl are playing the closer it gets to Greymoor release. And it seems many of these are potentially new players are filling in for vet players. Who are either burnt out with grinding, disgusted with the chronic game bugs, lags, overall game/server mechanics. And so may be taking a leave of absence (or even quitting) the franchise due to increasingly poor server performance.

Don't forget Elsweyr DLC will be free for ESO Plus once Greymoor goes live. So a lot of ppl are coming back to catch up on questing in other DLC in preparation for that. And there's also the free ESO weeks and heavy discount sales on many of the DLC that Steam has been promoting recently. That last Steam promo that bundled the DB, TG and some other store DLC gave ESO a significant boost on Steam's Top 100 list. A lot of new and returning players apparently spent a lot buying these DLC (especially the DB and TG ones). Because I've had these two DLC ever since they came out. And don't ever recall seeing so many players in quest zones and related dungeon areas. LOL

Screw performance guys we get to be archaeologist vampires that can buy stuff from the crown store!!!! Hype!!!!’

KyleTheYounger wrote: »

More and more ppl are playing the closer it gets to Greymoor release. And it seems many of these are potentially new players are filling in for vet players. Who are either burnt out with grinding

There is almost no grind in ESO though, the issue that turns them away is the lag.

TineaCruris wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

There not padding the latency numbers if that's what your suggesting..

The game does not report actual latency values. This is well known, and easily verified/checked.

Resource monitor is a great source to prove they're padding it. Back in the day the Latency tool use to hit 999+ all the time when lag was bad, I have yet to see it hit there recently and it'll say "140" and Resource monitor will say 3,000+... You're right.

thegreat_one wrote: »

The "Fix" is what keeps breaking ***.
Why was compressing the game 30 GB so damn important?
What was wrong with block in the first place?

Why are solutions developed that are irrelevant to the problems?

I strongly believe our combat team is too far removed from our game recently. The block change actually made desyncs worse. The animation change actually made lag worse.

Iarao wrote: »

volkeswagon wrote: »

I farm mats and dig up treasure maps. Performance is great

even farming mats, i just stand there w/o animation, and poof! mats.

Yeah, this is a damn issue.

Rake wrote: »

I am intrigued why cant they do their jobs and fix this.
6 years is quite a lot of time.

Heres my timeline:
2013 - Skills were still being prototyped, some things were just weird for a MMO
2014 - Release time! Most NPCs spoke gibberish, 75% of the skills in-game were broken, game was considered DOA
2015 - Re-release, game is much better performance is working good still some hitches with fps.
2016 - Lag has been introduced while our FPS skyrocketed, lighting overhaul, combat overhaul.
2017 - Lag is starting to become unbareable
2018 - Lag is now advanced into "Can't play during x time."
2019 - Semi-playable seems like a lot of the bad lag is gone
2019-2020 - Lag is back, worse, animation changes are horrid, block changes are bad, the game doesn't work, queue to activate skills is now a thing.