This post by @Soundinfinite highlights the issues with Roar Opportunist and a way around to fix it: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/524705/how-to-fix-opportunist-and-understanding-what-set-it-needs-to-replace-in-magicka-dps#latest

Noxavian wrote: »

The Blood Lord's embrace Mythic item is utter trash and pretty useless. 600 mana per attack the enemy attacks you while youre blocking? That is literally nothing.

The effect isn't vampiric and for a vampire focused chapter, should be re-valuated. @ZOS_GinaBruno.

Here are some very vampire-themed mythic-level effects that would make this set fit the description more and offer vampires a mythic item that is actually useful.

1. Could interact with vampire abilities/the transformation in someway. Either giving them more spellpower, or heck even additional effects. This is a mythic level item.
2. Could go a different route, what if attacks had a chance to summon a swarm of bats around your target to damage them?
3. What if when blocking you turn into a swarm of bats and move very slow, but deal AoE damage around you and heal for the damage dealt?
4. Could have a chance at summoning a gargoyle when landing a crit. You heal for the damage dealt by said gargoyle.
5. Could turn your block into a 'blood ward', a spell that absorbs enemy spells and restores magicka and health when blocked based upon a percentage of that spells damage and mana cost.
6. Could have a chance when struck to lash out at all nearby enemies with blood tethers that drain HP over time.
7. Could replace the bash attack with a small life-drain that comes from the center of the chest that doesnt require a channel time and interrupts (like a bash) and restores a bit of HP over time.
8. What if the block attack just summoned a swarm of bats around you to damage enemies and you restore magicka based upon how many enemies are hit?
9. What if it made your bash attack a medium ranged bat swarm or shadow teleport that interrupts enemies and puts you right behind them?
10. What if your bash attack was replaced by the ability to charge up a blood magic sphere that got bigger and bigger the longer you held it, up to a max of some point, and then once you released it traveled towards an area and did AoE damage based upon how long it was held down? Could cost Magicka or HP, and restore either or both.

Or simply change it to 600 stamina per attack.
At least it will make it somewhat useful for tanks.

Good work on the Arena set backbar changes.

On the other hand, there is still no justice for Grundwulf and the trial sets are still highly undesirable and not worth farming.

Please, for the love of Talos, look into remedying this situation.

I will do a more complete review later, but I'm really worried about Thrassian's Strangler.

From a theorycraft perspective, it is completely breaking the game and create a wide gap between magicka dps and stamina dps (which didn't need that).
If you use "1 piece bonus" as a scale (worth 129 SP or 1206 health), each stack of Thrassian's is worth 1.16 1p bonus in SP and costs 0.30 1p bonus in health. Basically, each stack gives you a net worth of 0.86 1p bonus.

You don't need to have max stacks for it to be over the top.
A "normal" 5p bonus set is fixed at 2.3 times the value of a "1 piece bonus".
Which means, Thrassian is worth a 5p bonus starting 3 stacks !

It would be fairly easy in Trials to get 3-6 stacks / person with good communication.
This would keep the "curse" effect at low levels (6-12% increased damage taken) which would translate in no risks of huge damages scaling on health becoming One-Shots because of Thrassian's.
Worst case scenario, an invisibility potion or a NB cloak will reset the set, preventing it from stacking too much debuff.

I think a graph speaks more than long stories :



TS full debuff is 40% more damages which translate in 7k2 more health for DD to mitigate it. (Hence, 6x 1p bonus.)

On this graph, I represented :
- The bonus that TS gives you minus the cost of a 20 stacks mitigation.*
- The bonus of TS without even trying to mitigate the debuff.
- Classical SP sets.

*This is just for calculation purposes. In real situation, you might want your stacks to stay around a lower value.


From a theory point of view, this set enables things beyond broken.
What does worry me the most, is the fact that there is no Stamina counterpart.
3-6 stacks can easily be achieved. In some Trials, there are way more that than per person before bosses. No one will want to group stamina DD whose damage pool will be so much lower.


EDIT : 5 stacks on this set gives +12% dps, which is more damages than a 100% uptime Major Slayer. The curse would translate into 10% increased damage taken, 10% received heal reduction.
Fixing RO shouldn't be the priority : this thing can do way more damages to balancing.
(And still keep in mind Stamina DD do not have counterpart...)

Already posted this in the bug report but I'll repost it here because it contains feedback to the item as well:

Malacath ring is completely buggy. Against targets with offbalance effect (and CP which increase damage against offbalanced targets) it increases my dmg done by only ~10%. Without any CP and without offbalance it increases my dmg by ~25% as intended. On sorc with Amplitude passive on a target with full health it increases the dmg by only 14%. On a 20% hp target it increases it's dmg by ~20%. With minor vuln the interaction seems to be unchanged, I don't really see a pattern here.

But I'm completely honest here. If it would be working as intended with 25% damage increase it would be the most overpowered item which I've ever seen since playing the beta and it's not even close tbh. The crit def values which people reach are broken (once they are bugfixed), people easily reach 60% (!!!) critdef with basecrit, impen and by putting some CP (which every decent PvP player is already using). I honestly don't know why I seem to be the only one who sees a problem in balance when everybody will easily run around with that much impen. With this Malacath ring will be even more of a nobrainer even for classes with passives which increase your critical damage. And stamsorc will be the worst class in the game because they either lose overall 25% dmg done or their class heal. Please just rework this item.

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Already posted this in the bug report but I'll repost it here because it contains feedback to the item as well:

Malacath ring is completely buggy. Against targets with offbalance effect (and CP which increase damage against offbalanced targets) it increases my dmg done by only ~10%. Without any CP and without offbalance it increases my dmg by ~25% as intended. On sorc with Amplitude passive on a target with full health it increases the dmg by only 14%. On a 20% hp target it increases it's dmg by ~20%. With minor vuln the interaction seems to be unchanged, I don't really see a pattern here.

But I'm completely honest here. If it would be working as intended with 25% damage increase it would be the most overpowered item which I've ever seen since playing the beta and it's not even close tbh. The crit def values which people reach are broken (once they are bugfixed), people easily reach 60% (!!!) critdef with basecrit, impen and by putting some CP (which every decent PvP player is already using). I honestly don't know why I seem to be the only one who sees a problem in balance when everybody will easily run around with that much impen. With this Malacath ring will be even more of a nobrainer even for classes with passives which increase your critical damage. And stamsorc will be the worst class in the game because they either lose overall 25% dmg done or their class heal. Please just rework this item.

It is additive with other % damage done sources. The more you already have, the less you gain from additional sources. 25% would be only if you had no additional sources of % damage done.

Just Elemental Deffender + Thaumaturge (along with Exploiter) makes your Malacath Ring increase the dmg of your dots by like 16% instead of 25%.

I thought that too first. But Exploiter passive shouldn't reduce it's damage by over 10%. So I assume that something is really buggy here.

Why the changes to critical resistance need to be adressed.

The context

The new change to base crit resistance is positive and im glad you decided to Tone down Impenetrable to make other traits more appealling to the playerbase in PVP. However, as it is now the only thing that'll happen is that the average player in PvP will round 3000 critical resistance and well beyond. This will cause a huge rift in how the damage to other players is dealt.

Simulations in uesp editor (I know is not accurate 100%, but it's a start). Also, I faced several duels on PTS against different builds (Also against Malacath band users) and my conclussions remain clear on this subject. This will show time and over again.

The Data

Let's dive into this. Provided we have an average target

And these base offensive stats (Just an example)



We have the following options

1.) Keep our classic projected stats and be innefficient

2.) Stack a lot of critical damage multipliers (Senche, Shadow Mundus, Minor force. And we could be a khajiit too on top of it)



3.) Maintain our original stats and idea but simply force malacath Band of brutality into our build

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How to approach it

The way to adress this is in my opinion. For the sake of making build diversity and different damage options more viable is to nerf the impenetrable trait even further and tone down the resistant CP line while buffing the other traits a bit more. I'd say 3000 critical resistance is the maximun amount a player should be able to reach in cp and around 2000 on no-cp. This without resorting to the use of specialized gear like Transmutation/Impregnable of course, since this gear should cover an specialized option and function. My suggestion is:

1) Keep base critical resistance as it is. That's a great idea (1350 at max level). Since it will grant more equal ground to newer, less informed players. It will be a more intuitive mechanic

2) Increase the diminishing returns on the "resistant" red CP line (which now grants 1650 critical resistance at 100 points). CP environment grants precise strikes and elfborn CP and they need a counter and also Critical damage is essential in PvE content and it shouldnt be affected by pvp calculations

3) Modify Armor traits like this:

Traits

Reduced the armor trait Impenetrable to 102, down from 172

Increased the armor trait Well-Fitted to 5,5%, up from 5%

Increased the the armor trait Sturdy to 5%, up from 4%

Increased the the armor trait Infused to 30%, up from 20% (in line with its weapon counterpart)

Increased the the armor trait Invigorating to 28, up from 11

Increased the the armor trait Nirnhoned to 362, up from 301 (In line with the Heavy Armor passive, resolve)

Increased the the armor trait Reinforced to 42%, up from 16% (To make it more viable in big pieces like chests, legs or
helmets, it would grant a boost similar to protective trait on jewelry. While making this trait less desirable than nirnhoned on
smaller pieces, )

Training (Keep as is)

Divines (Keep as is)

Derra wrote: »

Malacath Band of Brutality is currently bugged with sorcs amplitude passive and the cp exploiter passive.

Currently on pts both exploiter and amplitude reduce your dmg instead of increasing it when band of malacath is equipped.

On a 100% HP target a sorc with band of malacath equipped is dealing
100% base dmg * 25% malacath - 10% amplitude = 115% dmg

Against an off balanced target with band of malacath equipped it seems to be:
100% base dmg -10% exploiter * 25% malacath = 112% dmg

When exploiter is not procced dmg increases.
When amplitude is not skilled or against low hp targets the dmg increases.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler
@ZOS_Gilliam

This need to be fixed !

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Already posted this in the bug report but I'll repost it here because it contains feedback to the item as well:

Malacath ring is completely buggy. Against targets with offbalance effect (and CP which increase damage against offbalanced targets) it increases my dmg done by only ~10%. Without any CP and without offbalance it increases my dmg by ~25% as intended. On sorc with Amplitude passive on a target with full health it increases the dmg by only 14%. On a 20% hp target it increases it's dmg by ~20%. With minor vuln the interaction seems to be unchanged, I don't really see a pattern here.

But I'm completely honest here. If it would be working as intended with 25% damage increase it would be the most overpowered item which I've ever seen since playing the beta and it's not even close tbh. The crit def values which people reach are broken (once they are bugfixed), people easily reach 60% (!!!) critdef with basecrit, impen and by putting some CP (which every decent PvP player is already using). I honestly don't know why I seem to be the only one who sees a problem in balance when everybody will easily run around with that much impen. With this Malacath ring will be even more of a nobrainer even for classes with passives which increase your critical damage. And stamsorc will be the worst class in the game because they either lose overall 25% dmg done or their class heal. Please just rework this item.

It is additive with other % damage done sources. The more you already have, the less you gain from additional sources. 25% would be only if you had no additional sources of % damage done.

Just Elemental Deffender + Thaumaturge (along with Exploiter) makes your Malacath Ring increase the dmg of your dots by like 16% instead of 25%.

additive is additive. You do not get LESS damage than the sum which is what the poster is speaking of. Sure it is not the compounding interest of multiplicative, but 25% plus 10% from exploiter should be 35 % more damage. Multiplicative would give you 37.5% more damage.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official feedback thread for the new item sets and Mythic Items. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:

• Do you have any other general feedback?

The change to Ilambris is destroying interesting and fun non-meta builds. I run it on a werewolf, dual wield with a flame glyph on one weapon and a shock glyph on another. It's nice having the flame and shock damage from Ilambris going at the same time. You've destroyed the FUN I have with this build. I guess I won't be using it anymore.

Hello @ZOS_GinaBruno,

Can I please ask, why were are doing this??

"Increased the damage done from each meteor shower to 2015, up from 1170.
You can no longer layer each meteor shower.

I've been playing using ilambris like this for years, and now someone decides to change it? Why????? ;(
It's such an old set, did the devs really have to destroy our fun ??

Can the devs explain why and consider reverting this, I mean was someone crying about the layering?

Anyhow, I've cancelled ESO plus, since yet again some dev decides to trash some really old sets that noone was complaining about.

Thanks!