R.I.P. Bloodspawn....you will be missed

UrbanMonk · April 2020

TequilaFire wrote: »

Maybe I am just depressed from being locked in my house and seeing my friends without work, but I think after six years I have finally had it with this game.
IDK, gonna take a break and definitly not purchasing Greymoor.

after having read patch notes twice, i'm still looking for a reason to buy Greymoor.

xaraan · April 2020

Kesstryl wrote: »

What will PVE Tanks use now? All the tanky monster sets are nerfed for PVP. So sick of not having PVE separate from PVP

PvE tanks will run Tremorscale now. No choice to be made (unless maybe you have an all magicka group).

FoolishOptimist · April 2020

People on this forum: Deal with the tank meta!

Also people on this forum: dOnT tOuCh mA BlUdSpAwN!!!

Kesstryl wrote: »
What will PVE Tanks use now? All the tanky monster sets are nerfed for PVP. So sick of not having PVE separate from PVP

If you were using Bloodspawn to gain your resistances, your mitigation would be yoyo-ing too much. Bloodspawn was a great tank set primarily for the ulti-gen, and it's still a good choice for that reason. Personally, I'm glad to see Swarm Mother's one piece now increases max Stam and Mag. It's a wonderful option for tanks wanting to save bar space or those without an efficient pull.

Also, Shadowrend's debuff is now unique, improving further group damage mitigation.

Kingslayer513 · April 2020

Kesstryl wrote: »

What will PVE Tanks use now? All the tanky monster sets are nerfed for PVP. So sick of not having PVE separate from PVP

Stonekeeper or tremorscale

jaws343 · April 2020

I'm over here eying that Stormfist buff. Especially the part where the initial shock damage ignores resistances. Could work really well on a mag toon.

OtarTheMad · April 2020

I'll still be using it as it is still a strong set. Honestly, if you have 18 characters and 17 use Bloodspawn, maybe it needs to be toned down and some others buffed. A lot of monster sets are so boring and useless. Now, some are better but Bloodspawn is still in the fight as the top monster set. It might not be laughable to wear something else now tho.

Love the change to Skoria too, my templar is happy lol.

mav1234 · April 2020

Bloodspawn's CD should be something like 4 seconds, and the armor should be a bit higher than 3k. With the current ult gain, it would be a small buff in outnumbered situations, which would be welcome, without being too huge a nerf in 1v1 etc.

MartiniDaniels · April 2020

ZOS: nerfs bloodspawn
players: we will use 2 double armor pieces
ZOS: removes double armor bonus from monster sets for "standardization"
also ZOS: adds double bonus to swarm mother

J18696 · April 2020

Over nerfed again armor value should be up around 4500

OG_Kaveman · April 2020

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS: nerfs bloodspawn
players: we will use 2 double armor pieces
ZOS: removes double armor bonus from monster sets for "standardization"
also ZOS: adds double bonus to swarm mother

Swarm Mother: Changed the 1 piece bonus of this set to 1096 Max Magicka and Max Stamina, instead of 129 Stamina Recovery.

this is not the same kind of "double bonus" that Chudan, Pirate Skeleton and Lord Warden had, if it was, it would be 2192 max stam and mag.

Taktak · April 2020

#Save_Bloodspawn

irstarkey57 · April 2020

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

Do we ever see an increase on established set?

Everyone knows why they nerfed all the monster sets, right? MYTHICS. New content coming out so you have to make the old *** useless to pave the way for pay to win...Yet somehow Zaan's got buffed? LoL

OG_Kaveman · April 2020

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

Do we ever see an increase on established set?

Valkyn Skoria:
This set's 1 piece bonus now grants 1487 Spell Penetration rather than 1206 Max Health.

this will increase the damage of the set and the user.

MartiniDaniels · April 2020

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS: nerfs bloodspawn
players: we will use 2 double armor pieces
ZOS: removes double armor bonus from monster sets for "standardization"
also ZOS: adds double bonus to swarm mother

Swarm Mother: Changed the 1 piece bonus of this set to 1096 Max Magicka and Max Stamina, instead of 129 Stamina Recovery.

this is not the same kind of "double bonus" that Chudan, Pirate Skeleton and Lord Warden had, if it was, it would be 2192 max stam and mag.

No. 1487 armor is 1 set bonus. 1k magicka and 1k stamina are 2 set bonuses.

TheValar85 · April 2020

okay this nerf needs to be reversed ASAP and stop messing around with monster sets honestly...

OG_Kaveman · April 2020

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS: nerfs bloodspawn
players: we will use 2 double armor pieces
ZOS: removes double armor bonus from monster sets for "standardization"
also ZOS: adds double bonus to swarm mother

Swarm Mother: Changed the 1 piece bonus of this set to 1096 Max Magicka and Max Stamina, instead of 129 Stamina Recovery.

this is not the same kind of "double bonus" that Chudan, Pirate Skeleton and Lord Warden had, if it was, it would be 2192 max stam and mag.

No. 1487 armor is 1 set bonus. 1k magicka and 1k stamina are 2 set bonuses.

Yes. as far as one piece stats are concerned, yes they are. that is what they are, 1096 for max stam/mag stats and 129 for weapon/spell damage. they are definitely equal when you are saying that is what they are on a 2/3/4 piece of a 5 piece set, like i am saying.

Sneaky-Snurr · April 2020

FoolishOptimist wrote: »

People on this forum: Deal with the tank meta!

Also people on this forum: dOnT tOuCh mA BlUdSpAwN!!!

Kesstryl wrote: »
What will PVE Tanks use now? All the tanky monster sets are nerfed for PVP. So sick of not having PVE separate from PVP

If you were using Bloodspawn to gain your resistances, your mitigation would be yoyo-ing too much. Bloodspawn was a great tank set primarily for the ulti-gen, and it's still a good choice for that reason. Personally, I'm glad to see Swarm Mother's one piece now increases max Stam and Mag. It's a wonderful option for tanks wanting to save bar space or those without an efficient pull.

Also, Shadowrend's debuff is now unique, improving further group damage mitigation.

You really are a @FoolishOptimist. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

HappyTheCamper · April 2020

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS: nerfs bloodspawn
players: we will use 2 double armor pieces
ZOS: removes double armor bonus from monster sets for "standardization"
also ZOS: adds double bonus to swarm mother

“As a development team, we’ve been looking at making these changes for 4 years now. We could have implemented these changes any time up until now, but just never felt like doing it.”

TheHsN · April 2020

They need to revert changes to BloodSpawn.... Not fair...... at all. They all give reasons to leave the game again... I had enough of this meaningless changes Zos Does. No Sub for new patch if it goes live like this changes

And what about the Zaan it is already very powerful.... Now it is more and more... They dont want good defence thet only care about DPS

Poor Patch again. No Surprises

Sylosi · April 2020

Long overdue.

MurderMostFoul · April 2020

Nerf monster sets, push DLC mythic items...

Chilly-McFreeze · April 2020

So it seems like changing to nord it is for me even more now. Dang.

Hurbster · April 2020

I did wonder what would happen when they gave a more popular set the Iceheart treatment.

YandereGirlfriend · April 2020

Somehow they even managed to nerf Grundwulf which is set I've literally never read a complaint about.

This development team... plays a different game than the rest of us.

Kidgangster101 · April 2020

StShoot wrote: »

Cries wrote: »

Why wear monster sets in PvP next patch.

5 body
5 jewelry/helmet/shoulder
2 weapon sets

Not a single monster set seems appealing in PvP besides balorgh.

do the math on balorgh its ***

You think it is but all that pen and just use a spell/weapon mundus lol it is going to be nerfed after this patch if it even makes it out

ssewallb14_ESO · April 2020

Honestly I'm fine with it. More set options without Bloodspawn being the best in almost all situations. I don't think 5-5-2 with an arena set will become meta as you can still run 5-5-2 with a monster mask and back/frontbar whatever arena set you want. Though there are some 5-5-2 double arena set combos that look interesting now.

Angrolf · April 2020

RIP Alessian Order with this too

MartiniDaniels · April 2020

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ZOS: nerfs bloodspawn
players: we will use 2 double armor pieces
ZOS: removes double armor bonus from monster sets for "standardization"
also ZOS: adds double bonus to swarm mother

Swarm Mother: Changed the 1 piece bonus of this set to 1096 Max Magicka and Max Stamina, instead of 129 Stamina Recovery.

this is not the same kind of "double bonus" that Chudan, Pirate Skeleton and Lord Warden had, if it was, it would be 2192 max stam and mag.

No. 1487 armor is 1 set bonus. 1k magicka and 1k stamina are 2 set bonuses.

Yes. as far as one piece stats are concerned, yes they are. that is what they are, 1096 for max stam/mag stats and 129 for weapon/spell damage. they are definitely equal when you are saying that is what they are on a 2/3/4 piece of a 5 piece set, like i am saying.

Off-resource is useful stat for vast majority of builds, while off-damage is good only for some niche builds. I agree that double armor was more powerful then 1k mag+stam, but still it is 2 set bonuses nevertheless.

Vapirko · April 2020

I quit playing in October and this bloodspawn nerf still makes me angry. The ultimate "the whiners got their way" nerf we will probably ever see. I keep checking back every major patch to see if things will shape up but it sadly seems it has only gotten worse. I miss the idea of what this game could have been but I do not miss the frustrating of playing what it became one bit.

Spearpoint · April 2020

I somehow never got around to enjoy BS. And now it's soon too late..

I would really wish they could buff other sets to be on pair with it.

Though y'all will be easier to kill now 😅