Wtf?? It was bad enough dealing with the cross faction guilds trying to manipulate the game, and now they want to take us back to the 24/7 trolling of players swapping factions willy-nilly. Wonderful.

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

I don't understand one thing. If people want freedom to choose alliance with their characters - why don't give this to them but with limitations? I must pay a lot of AP to change home campaign, so there should be one free alliance change for whole campaign and next switches should cost at least 50k AP. It's best solution for both sides of conflict, so why not?

THis cuts into ZOS' bottom line, so it won't ever happen.
I agree an alliance change option of some sort is the best option for us, the players, but ZOS has never been into what's bestt for the player, only what's best for their wallet.

Ishtharo wrote: »

Honestly, faction lock, to begin with, was a terrible idea, and goes against the ethos of One Tamriel "Play the way you want".

I always here the trope of spies and giving away scrolls. That doesn't happen very often, and there is no way to stop it. This is the internet, trolls will be trolls and find a way to do so anyway.

What faction lock does do, is prevent the populations from being evened out by those, like myself, who are just looking for good fights. Having faction loyalty is not a bad thing, I'm EP through and through, but I prefer to get fights.

The only faction lock has been proven to do was kill population numbers on Sotha. Even prime time now, not all factions are locked the majority of the time. This is verifiable, your witch hunt over trolls and spies can't be proven.

Stop acting on "feelings", it's how the state of today's PvP got to where it is now. Act on the numbers, which show faction locks have been bad for the nonCP campaign.

You can't blame any kind of decline in population on the introduction of faction locks because it happened at the same time as performance degrading even further and the massive combat nerfs and shifts back and forth. So many people I know quit after last years fiasco and it was solely due to that. No said "hey,, I'm quitting because of faction locks". No cp is now unlocked and you will see that the population will still remain relatively the same as it was during the lock

Also the argument that people can't switch sides to balance out is just a bunch of BS because if you do that, your one of very few people who do. Before locks people came into campaign, saw half the map was one color and that faction was advancing and they promptly switched to that faction to join the zerg, not the other way around. Only once the map was painted entirely one color did all the AP farmers finally switch factions because there was no more ap to be had on that faction. That's not "balancing the campaign" , that's just farming ap.

I think it's going to be hard to make a lot of conclusions about the state of Cyrodiil while the frequency of crashes is so high.

Carespanker wrote: »

Bit of a follow-up update to this prediction; I've monitored the new campaigns daily throughout every hour of the day since they came out. All campaigns but Gray host (the new kaal) haven't made it over 2 bars outside of primetime and while in primetime they haven't had more than 1 faction locked at a time. I could easily sway this to claim that I was right but the real conclusion here is that PVP, in general, has gone on a universal decline this patch in all campaigns but non-cp and "standard" are feeling it the most. Gray Host, just like Kaal, is the only campaign with a consistent population, but in reality, nothing has changed that much.

I am sorry this turned into a faction lock V non-faction lock thread. That was not the initial intention. However, a handful of guilds did end up moving to Gray Host due to the change (Hence why AD is now in first at the time of this post) so I was correct on that one... Regardless, the only thing we can do in reality now is to wait and see if ZoS can fix their game.


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Probably mostly from constant crashes. Pvp community has been in decline for sure but we lost a huge load of people overnight... Hard to keep the campaigns filled when you can't even play.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

The less locks the better. All it did was lower pvp populations and divide friends.

They should just make it so that you pick one faction for rewards it can still fight on others when the server is dead / one sided

Problem is, unlocking tends to make the server more one sided, not less. We know this. It happened. That's why hardly no one plays on the unlocked server.