quester immunity

Xologamer · April 2020

mozers1908b16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS please give questers immunity of some kind in Cyrodil. im sick and tired of getting ganked by [snip] just because im there questing. i leave people alone in do my thing yet they feel the need to ambush and attack for no reason, so far ive been done in by 3 playes some more than once even though i didnt fight back. one inside a quest hub, i left him alone and how did i get repaid? oh right i got ganked instead of left alone. i tried running but nope this [snip] just kept doing the [snip] spear then continued his own questing!!! rude to say the least. scummy yes..... this needs to stop. all factions do it granted but it still needs to stop. all some people want to do is quest quietly and not get abused and ganked by [snip] on a pvp trip.

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1.4 already past u to late bro

Reverb · April 2020

Kadoin wrote: »

I am missing something: is it required that you go to Cyrodiil for the event?

Absolutely no requirement, no. But Cyrodiil is a desirable place for this event because each town has 2 quest givers and you can do lots of dailies really quickly. Every event causes an outcry from people like the OP who want that high reward without the inherent risk of doing it in an open pvp zone.

xxthir13enxx · April 2020

Long Story Short:

What I’m getting from this is that PvE players view PvP as Harder Content that they cannot cope with.
There is no reason to view the other player any differently than any NPC in game
You fight and defeat NPCs
Fight and Defeat other players
Any “moral” objection is a fantasy of your own creation

JKorr · April 2020

xxthir13enxx wrote: »

Long Story Short:

What I’m getting from this is that PvE players view PvP as Harder Content that they cannot cope with.
There is no reason to view the other player any differently than any NPC in game
You fight and defeat NPCs
Fight and Defeat other players
Any “moral” objection is a fantasy of your own creation

One rather large difference, however.

None, not one npc, no matter how many times I've killed them for dailies, or alts questing, has ever called me a [snip], [snip], used homophobic slurs, called me [snip], or claimed they [snip] my mother last night.

All things considered, I'd rather deal with the npcs. "Moral" doesn't enter into it. More like "I outgrew acting like an immature hypercompetitive tool in grade school". [snip]. Many people don't.

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ZOS_Lunar · April 2020

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Pauls · April 2020

Sometimes its good to sit in town and defend it against incoming questers. Play how you want, ya know that stuff isnt ya

Theosis · April 2020

pvp zone + alone = getting spanked no matter what you are doing

I feel your pain I absolutely loathe pvp but there.. its going to happen no matter what you say or do.

IsharaMeradin · April 2020

Would be nice for there to be at the very least a small immunity bubble around the quest givers. This would give those that do want to explore all of the dialog options that are only available the first time around the chance to do so.

Deter1UK · April 2020

My crafter suddenly started getting master writs for Cyrodiil - that was a shock! Hey-***, I wander in do the writ and wander out. If I get killed (one shot usually) I just rinse and repeat it's really no big deal

Often I make it without ever seeing anyone, had to turn Bruma Yellow once to access the crafting hall - interesting as I'd never PVP'd and had absolutely no idea what I was doing or how to do it, figured it out eventually. Luckily no-one else around - I'd never expect to be that lucky again.

And I have chat turned off so...

CMDR_Un1k0rn · April 2020

JKorr wrote: »

xxthir13enxx wrote: »

Long Story Short:

What I’m getting from this is that PvE players view PvP as Harder Content that they cannot cope with.
There is no reason to view the other player any differently than any NPC in game
You fight and defeat NPCs
Fight and Defeat other players
Any “moral” objection is a fantasy of your own creation

One rather large difference, however.

None, not one npc, no matter how many times I've killed them for dailies, or alts questing, has ever called me a [snip], [snip], used homophobic slurs, called me [snip], or claimed they [snip] my mother last night.

All things considered, I'd rather deal with the npcs. "Moral" doesn't enter into it. More like "I outgrew acting like an immature hypercompetitive tool in grade school". [snip]. Many people don't.

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I have never received such language from another in this game, except for when I open a treasure chest that was "theirs".

Dare I suggest it is due to the fact that when I am killed in PvP, I do not get flamed because instead of "raging", I pick myself up, try again, or wait until later? Typically I say nothing to my opponent. There is no need to.

It's a PvP zone and this means that yes, there are other players working to stop you getting what you want, or "need".

That's quite literally the point of Cyrodiil.

DaveMoeDee · April 2020

Cirantille wrote: »

I am tired of getting attacked by skeevers while collecting my surveys........

It is a PVP zone, if you wish to get rewards, you need to accept this fact

As someone who usually uses my tank main to collect surveys, those skeevers and up wasting a lot of time before they die. I should probably switch to a DPS or healer alt for that if they have all the harvesting passives.

If I get ganked in Cyrodiil, I'll come back later. It is what it is.

NeoXanthus · April 2020

mozers1908b16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS please give questers immunity of some kind in Cyrodil. im sick and tired of getting ganked by [snip] just because im there questing. i leave people alone in do my thing yet they feel the need to ambush and attack for no reason, so far ive been done in by 3 playes some more than once even though i didnt fight back. one inside a quest hub, i left him alone and how did i get repaid? oh right i got ganked instead of left alone. i tried running but nope this [snip] just kept doing the [snip] spear then continued his own questing!!! rude to say the least. scummy yes..... this needs to stop. all factions do it granted but it still needs to stop. all some people want to do is quest quietly and not get abused and ganked by [snip] on a pvp trip.

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I am a PvP player that is also questing. I am doing the kill 40 people a day quest.

Dojohoda · April 2020

It's a PVP area and PVP is bound to happen. The towns are easy quests, some are very quick, but trouble is around the next corner.

Don't be Mad, Be Prepared
short list

wear impen armor, heavy if possible
have enough health, 27k+
bring invisible/speed pots and slot them
bring the crafted health/pool pots and slot them
expect a ganker to be inside the turn-in buildings
review your skills and make sure you have a heal-skill slotted
use double dot poisons for pressure
block, roll dodge, use line of sight

wolfbone · April 2020

mozers1908b16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS please give questers immunity of some kind in Cyrodil. im sick and tired of getting ganked by [snip] just because im there questing. i leave people alone in do my thing yet they feel the need to ambush and attack for no reason, so far ive been done in by 3 playes some more than once even though i didnt fight back. one inside a quest hub, i left him alone and how did i get repaid? oh right i got ganked instead of left alone. i tried running but nope this [snip] just kept doing the [snip] spear then continued his own questing!!! rude to say the least. scummy yes..... this needs to stop. all factions do it granted but it still needs to stop. all some people want to do is quest quietly and not get abused and ganked by [snip] on a pvp trip.

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it's pvp. there's just quests in there. it's not a pve zone with pvp eneabled.

barney2525 · April 2020

Universe wrote: »

I have a rule when I quest in towns during special events.
I don't attack the questers.

Though if they attack me or other AD players or the flag guardians they are toast!
If by any chance you attacked the poor NPCs guarding the flags, you deserve what you got.

Also, as others have posted it is a PVP zone and everyone can kill other alliance players for any reason at any time...
I only make an exception in special circumstances(like special event) because I'm respectful but any other time I kill the enemies on the spot!

I have a rule too, although it covers all times, not just events.

The rule - enter Cyradil, go to transitus shrine, look at map, if map is not 75% covered by my side, go home and try another time.

chiipso · April 2020

The poster is exactly why I happily kill pve only questers in Cyrodiil.

It’s a pvp zone.. expect to be killed, or at least try to entertain the fact that you should try and best set yourself up to defend yourself. Seems many questers believe they have the divine right to walk into pvp and not be attacked because, wait for it.. “I’m questing”.

-.-

MrGarlic · April 2020

With the amount of whining about performance PvPers do on this forum I am surprised there are still people actually PvPing.

I recently (this week gone) took one of my crafters to Cyro to do all the delves, skyshards and Dolmens and the only time I was attacked by enemy was when i went behind the gates to grab those 2 skyshards.

Granted, some coward/bully/troll followed me quite a long way to kill me before I could get the skyshard.

But other than that, Cyro is mostly deserted anyway.

I did come across enemy in delves and we all went about our PVE business without attacking each other. I suspect there are more PVErs in Cyro these days than PvPrs.

ZOS might as well make a PvE instance of Cyro.

Nestor · April 2020

Major_Lag wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

There is a Telvar Gathering Tank Build out there. You are basically unkillable, although you can't really do any damage.

Wait, so how do you actually farm telvar like that if it takes forever to kill even the lowest tier trash NPCs? In a 24 man group?

You can kill the trash mobs, just not the other players who are trying to kill you.

WuffyCerulei · April 2020

I will just say it takes 0 effort to not be a jerk and not ruin the days of some casual players. Not their fault ZOS decided to do very easy and quick pve content in a pvp zone. Perhaps ZOS needs to implement similar dailies in zones so it doesn’t become an issue again? I’m talkin quick and easy dailies, not ones that require you run across the map or ones that have 20 steps.

Sir_Valk · April 2020

Its a pvp area do you think that the devs can hand pick each person and know exactly who is going to quest and who is not, people are there to kill anyone, its a battlefield, you gotta be a nightblade or have invisible potions if you see someone. And if its a nightblade enemy, well good luck on that.

Royaji · April 2020

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

I will just say it takes 0 effort to not be a jerk and not ruin the days of some casual players. Not their fault ZOS decided to do very easy and quick pve content in a pvp zone. Perhaps ZOS needs to implement similar dailies in zones so it doesn’t become an issue again? I’m talkin quick and easy dailies, not ones that require you run across the map or ones that have 20 steps.

But what if... those quests are that easy exactly because they are part of a PvP zone? This issues arises every time there is an even related to dailies. In their attempt to get as many shiny boxes with random assortment of garbage as they can some players completely ignore everything else about the game. Those dailies are "easy" for a reason. And that reason is PvP.

I know, it's a hard pill to swallow for some but there is no "PvE content" in Cyro. It's a PvP zone and every piece of content there might involve PvP by default. Deal with it or go farm your precious boxes in PvE zones. Those quests are longer? Sure thing. Because there is no risk of PvP involved.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · April 2020

How about make the interior of the buildings where quest givers are sanctuary zones and add an item you can buy for a certain amount of AP such as 10k or 20k provide temporary 5 minute sanctuary upon consumption?

Going into an enemy keep while this is active would remove the effect as to not be exploited.

StormeReigns · April 2020

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

How about make the interior of the buildings where quest givers are sanctuary zones and add an item you can buy for a certain amount of AP such as 10k or 20k provide temporary 5 minute sanctuary upon consumption?

Going into an enemy keep while this is active would remove the effect as to not be exploited.

Or, just do what Scar says...

https://youtu.be/zPUe7O3ODHQ
and be prepared...

idk · April 2020

Zos clearly chose to put some PvE into the Cyrodiil PvP environment just as they clearly chose to lock some very desirable skill and many skill points/sky shards behind PvP. When entering Cyrodiil and IC one is specifically choosing to risk facing PvP. I suggest taking precautions, play it safe, and not just run around Cyrodiil as though nothing will happen. If you do get killed just brush it off and return to finish that quest a little bit later.

JamieAubrey · April 2020

Its kill or be killed, KILL ALL, SPARE NONE

I see a red health bar, I WILL try and kill you, 0 EXEMPTIONS, Just the way it is, Sorry

I'm not taking my chance letting them strike first

Nanfoodle · April 2020

Walking around with block on when you see peeps from other faction is a Cyrodiil sign you don't want to fight. Many respect it.

Lumenn · April 2020

I don't pvp much anymore, but I get it. Some toxic players exist(though much less than pve only seem to think in my experience) and if your horse is slow it can be a nuisance. I make it a point not to attack questers (if it's obvious. They don't attack me or they're actually running away) but this isn't like old EQ used to be either. You're not spawned zones away, naked, losing experience, and having to do a corpse run. If you die, you're in the same zone, have all your gear, and don't even have to repair it.

JamieAubrey · April 2020

Nanfoodle wrote: »

Walking around with block on when you see peeps from other faction is a Cyrodiil sign you don't want to fight. Many respect it.

Is that what that means lol

JayKwellen · April 2020

How on earth would this even work?

Is it some kind of toggle? If it is then it will be massively abused by PvPers.

Is it an increase in the number of sanctuary zones where the quest objectives are? That will also be majorly abused by PvPers.

Maybe you could just select PvE only before loading in? Probably one of the worst of all, as anyone could just make themselves "PvE immune" and become literally the perfect spy. Imagine a couple of unkillable players parked in or around another alliances home keeps relaying information back to their alliance? Or an unkillable player following around a zerg or ballgroup?

There's really no way to implement this without it being just exploited to absurdity. Thankfully every single other zone and area in the game exists only for PvE, so PvErs have plenty of other places to go. And by "other places" I mean "99% of the game". Considering that literally 100% of all new content is also solely PvE, always, with the sole-exception being an underwhelming PvE/PvP fusion zone, I think the PvE'rs have enough already.

dem0n1k · April 2020

Nanfoodle wrote: »

Walking around with block on when you see peeps from other faction is a Cyrodiil sign you don't want to fight. Many respect it.

Or they might just have the block symbol bug ! XD