crush83 wrote: »

Do we really live in a society that now prefers guilty until proven innocent? Wow.

Where have you been? Ever get a speeding ticket? You are guilty until proven innocent by every Judge when you try to fight against any traffic ticket.

And you are also brought into custody to stand trial if you are strongly suspected of something.

I would hate to be banned unfairly though, as far as that goes I'd rather they put the effort in and did it selectively, unless there is some reason it has to be done fast.

I'd actually like to know where the idea came from that Zenimax is using an automated system to ban people, because I've sure not seen any official announcement that it happens.

Just because I have moved Zenimax emails to my spam folder because every time I report a gold seller or bot, I get a canned, automated respose does not mean they have absolutely nobody swinging the banhammer and it's automated.

crush83 wrote: »
Do we really live in a society that now prefers guilty until proven innocent? Wow.

Well, let's hope the police in any country don't go around arresting innocent people and throwing them into jail until enough evidence can be fabricated/gathered to prove them guilty, eh?

Hate to say it, but there are still at least 6 botters standing around dungeon bosses...so this ban wave doesn't seem to be too effective.

They will be spending as much effort in the end because every person will appeal and they will investigate each of them, whether they were justly banned or not.

Assuming people have really been banned unfairly, they should undo those as fast as possible for sure and apologize with compensation, or the affected will just be turned off pretty hard if they are not already. Give them a free skill point and a title or something ("Vindicated" or "Falsely Accused").

sir_dunnub17_ESO wrote: »

They will be spending as much effort in the end because every person will appeal and they will investigate each of them, whether they were justly banned or not.

Assuming people have really been banned unfairly, they should undo those as fast as possible for sure and apologize with compensation, or the affected will just be turned off pretty hard if they are not already. Give them a free skill point and a title or something ("Vindicated" or "Falsely Accused").

Why should players that haven't been banned, be put at a disadvantage, because someone was innocent of what got them banned? It isn't Zenimax that told people to dupe items and sell them to cause innocent people to get banned. At most Zenimax should give those that were innocent of their ban game time equal to the length of the ban.