The single worst ESO mechanic at the moment. It's just cancerous. No one seems to grasp that these changes are just transitioning us to a meta where bash weaving will be enforced, rather than just an extra bit of DPS on the top.

Bash weaving being good only on stamina is not balanced, make bash dealing damage only when you successfully interrupt someone with it.

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I dare to vote no, for me, they're all awful and take something valuable away from the game, in terms of feels, not mechanics.

So your messing up the poll results for no real reason.. No means yes?

There was no question about light/heavy attacks. It's simply "Bash weaving is annoying". Yes or no.

I can bash weave really well, but I absolutely hate doing it. The fact that I can squeeze out an extra ~2.5k dps on a parse just bashing is incredibly dumb and if they're really worried about "high apm", they'll make bash do zero damage.

Maybe they wouldn't feel so terrible if the game actually worked. Nothing better than trying to add in more actions while my skills aren't working

MashmalloMan wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I dare to vote no, for me, they're all awful and take something valuable away from the game, in terms of feels, not mechanics.

So your messing up the poll results for no real reason.. No means yes?

There was no question about light/heavy attacks. It's simply "Bash weaving is annoying". Yes or no.

No, i said no cause I would be happier without weaving, ani cancelling or bash - idgaf. Clear enough?

That wasn't the poll's question, clear enough?

Edit: Oh wait, foolish of me, ydgaf. I understand now.

All forgiven

Unless people alter their keybinds, bash weaving will contribute to (or exacerbate) carpal tunnel syndrome and nerve issues for many, many players

Alucardo wrote: »

It makes sense in a way. Extra key presses and resource usage for more DPS. You could forgo this "annoying" mechanic and do slightly less DPS, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's the same with anything else in life - the more you put into it, the more you get out of it. I'm tired of people wanting everything for nothing.

The issue is, under the proposed changes, bash-weaving goes from an extra thing for "a little more DPS", and becomes a central, required weave in your rotation.

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Nerftheforums wrote: »

Learn how to play this game instead of asking nerds for everything ffs

Imma out myself for the complete hypocrite that I am (I fully utilize and support LA weaving...) and argue that bash weaving shouldn't be considered a valid way to play the game. Shouldn't bashing be exhausting? It's absurd that in this game you can pretty much bash indefinitely as a stam character (in the PTS I cannot spend my stam down enough quickly enough to ever run out with the new regen buffs) and get a sht ton of damage from it. Since they're pushing hard for off balance it would make more sense for bashing to do no damage at all but instead set an enemy off balance.

It's such a stupid mechanic. And yeah, part of it is that I'm too lazy or worn out or whatever to repeat the process of learning LA weaving again for bash weaving, especially since I main a magicka DD and tend to stay out of bash range of enemies anyway.

To be fair, 2 inputs that follow a delay per second (light -> skill -> delay) is much easier to do than 3 inputs with no delay(light - skill - bash). There is almost a wave like rhythm for light attack weaving, where as adding bash weaving into the mix makes for constant button pressing. For controller players with 4 inputs, this is even more unintuitive.

I know it feels hypocritcal, but it shouldn't because of how much added pressure this adds to a rotation. Not to mention the other cons of bash weaving that light attack weaving doesn't have.

• Stamina cost.
• Melee range.
• Aready has a primary function of interupting a target.
• Does more damage than a light attack on pts which feels counter intuitive.
• Console/controller players do not have a dedicated button for bash, it's attached to block + light attack, cutting off stamina regeneration and slowing down movement speed every second. This also equates to 4 inputs/second instead of 2 inputs/second for just dps.

Console players have enough trouble to deal with having 0 add-ons to help them with buff/debuff timers and 0 boss mechanic notifcations. The nerf/buff to light attacks just pushes end game dps into bash weaving while hurting lower dps. The changes increase APM. It's sad enough that mag/ranged dps are forced into melee range for stacking and minor force (barbed trap), couple that with requiring bash weaving and the dps gap has now become larger than it ever was before.

Even if you don't agree with light attack weaving, the direction ZOS is taking is to offer reliable alternatives, while decreasing the potency and necessity of light attack weaving. The current itteration of changes fails to meet that in a multitude of ways, bash weaving is one of their oversights.

It's very annoying and wont remain such a staple for dps. Anyone who read their reasoning for the changes and think ZOS will allow bashwaving to remain so relevant for dps are being extremely short sided with why these changes were proposed and or using bash weaving as a reason to scare others agreeing with their dislike for the changes.

There is no way bash weaving stays as effective as it is. Dont fall for that nonsense.

I like LA weaving. Bash weaving, though... bleh. I really hope it doesn't become required.