SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »Agreed. I love the proposed changes, although some tweaks are definitely needed. This off-cycle testing will allow them to fine tune large mechanical changes without pressure to push it live with inadequate testing. I hope all major changes go through this process in the future.
It's hard to argue with that.ATreeGnome wrote: »Amidst all the concerns and debates regarding the proposed light/heavy attack changes, I think it's important for the community to take a moment to recognize something that I think we can all agree has been a step in the right direction for the game. I'm referring to the fact that ZOS has taken the time and effort to offer an extra phase to the PTS cycle for the community to provide feedback on major changes before they are effectively set in stone, as is typical of the normal PTS cycle. This is was an unprecedented step and I'm sure that ZOS was well aware of just how much flak they would take over any proposed changes of such magnitude. No matter what our opinions are on the actual proposed changes, (and I have some very strong opinions on these cahanges) I think it's important that we give ZOS props when they do something right, especially when it would be far easier for them to not do it. So good job on improving communication, ZOS. This extra opportunity to provide feedback is something that most of us would like to see more of in the future!
ATreeGnome wrote: »SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »Agreed. I love the proposed changes, although some tweaks are definitely needed. This off-cycle testing will allow them to fine tune large mechanical changes without pressure to push it live with inadequate testing. I hope all major changes go through this process in the future.
To be clear, I think the changes are mostly terrible and poorly thought out, I'm just happy that ZOS is taking steps to gather more feedback from the community.
ATreeGnome wrote: »Amidst all the concerns and debates regarding the proposed light/heavy attack changes, I think it's important for the community to take a moment to recognize something that I think we can all agree has been a step in the right direction for the game. I'm referring to the fact that ZOS has taken the time and effort to offer an extra phase to the PTS cycle for the community to provide feedback on major changes before they are effectively set in stone, as is typical of the normal PTS cycle. This is was an unprecedented step and I'm sure that ZOS was well aware of just how much flak they would take over any proposed changes of such magnitude. No matter what our opinions are on the actual proposed changes, (and I have some very strong opinions on these cahanges) I think it's important that we give ZOS props when they do something right, especially when it would be far easier for them to not do it. So good job on improving communication, ZOS. This extra opportunity to provide feedback is something that most of us would like to see more of in the future!
John_Falstaff wrote: »...and now that Greymoor information is available, where kudos is now? They didn't plan to listen for our feedback. Not for a second. What a surprise.
John_Falstaff wrote: »...and now that Greymoor information is available, where kudos is now? They didn't plan to listen for our feedback. Not for a second. What a surprise.
I don't understand. Are these combat changes in Greymoor?
John_Falstaff wrote: »John_Falstaff wrote: »...and now that Greymoor information is available, where kudos is now? They didn't plan to listen for our feedback. Not for a second. What a surprise.
I don't understand. Are these combat changes in Greymoor?
New gear sets in Greymoor are tied to heavy attacks and off-balance, so it's pretty much set in stone. When they published this 'off-cycle pts', they already were designing Greymoor for those combat changes.
Actually putting this out to test and maybe not even use is exactly how the PTS should be used.
Lying to us about doing that when they are already building the new patch around the change however is worse than doing nothing at all. I'd have been understanding if they just said, "these are changes are making and not sure how to approach it so putting it on PTS a month+ earlier than rest of patch for more testing." Now, if they roll out this change at all after having seen what I saw of greymoor it will just look like a bunch of lies.
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