Cloak feels even less reliable this patch, bleh.
Not really sure what to run these days. I miss the melee magblade playstyle. Most things I try seem too squishy to manage these days. Has anyone tried heavy magblade? Something like shackle/btb/zaan in heavy maybe with a 2h?
edit: nma would be nice in place of shackle there, but I feel like sustain would be an issue...
I think I did when I first rolled a magblade, but it doesn't really make sense. It won't be affected by your spell penetration & the Defile is just too good to pass up IMO. What makes you want to try it?Anyone tried Incap as a magblade?
[edit] Just saw incap got it's stun back, so I assume that's what brought this about. Even with the stun though, I think the Defile is probably more important — especially as a magblade. I might try it out though, my main used to be a stamblade so it's fully leveled.
brandonv516 wrote: »No reason not to use Caluurions right now lol...procs from light attacks as of U25.
So light attack weave into Incap and enjoy!
brandonv516 wrote: »No reason not to use Caluurions right now lol...procs from light attacks as of U25.
So light attack weave into Incap and enjoy!
Incap seems buggy, I’m not sure what’s up with it. I had a BG against Langeston and he used incap against me, the graphic was me lying on the floor but I could still move around. Maybe that’s how it acts when you already have cc immunity? I’m not sure.
exeeter702 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »No reason not to use Caluurions right now lol...procs from light attacks as of U25.
So light attack weave into Incap and enjoy!
Hold up, what?
brandonv516 wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »No reason not to use Caluurions right now lol...procs from light attacks as of U25.
So light attack weave into Incap and enjoy!
Hold up, what?
Yeah it's bugged on Xbox at least. Caluurions is proccing from light and heavy critical attacks.
https://youtu.be/7s_69G3013I
I used:
Cloak -> Weaved light attack (CRIT PROC CALUURIONS) into Soul Harvest -> Swallow Soul
Do you need cloak on both bars? Personally I'd take it off the front bar & replace it with Manifestation of Terror, then put RAT on the back bar. The only problem I'd have then would be that I'd want Concealed Weapon on the back bar as well. How much would it mess you up to have Healthy Offering on your front bar?So I realized I had a weapon damage instead of spell damage glyph on one my of jewellery pieces... duh. Anyways, if people like healing as a magblade (are there any left?) this has been performing well for me.
Basicly heal and put the fear traps down, if you see an opportunity jump someone with the cal proc. I'd say I average 200-500k damage and 400-950k healing per BG, it all depends. Typically 2-8 kills per BG and 1-4 deaths. Wish I could fit RAT for major expedition somewhere, any ideas?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=207332
So I realized I had a weapon damage instead of spell damage glyph on one my of jewellery pieces... duh. Anyways, if people like healing as a magblade (are there any left?) this has been performing well for me.
Basicly heal and put the fear traps down, if you see an opportunity jump someone with the cal proc. I'd say I average 200-500k damage and 400-950k healing per BG, it all depends. Typically 2-8 kills per BG and 1-4 deaths. Wish I could fit RAT for major expedition somewhere, any ideas?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=207332
Do you need cloak on both bars? Personally I'd take it off the front bar & replace it with Manifestation of Terror, then put RAT on the back bar. The only problem I'd have then would be that I'd want Concealed Weapon on the back bar as well. How much would it mess you up to have Healthy Offering on your front bar?So I realized I had a weapon damage instead of spell damage glyph on one my of jewellery pieces... duh. Anyways, if people like healing as a magblade (are there any left?) this has been performing well for me.
Basicly heal and put the fear traps down, if you see an opportunity jump someone with the cal proc. I'd say I average 200-500k damage and 400-950k healing per BG, it all depends. Typically 2-8 kills per BG and 1-4 deaths. Wish I could fit RAT for major expedition somewhere, any ideas?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=207332
I think if you give it a bit of time, having your CC on the front bar would work out better for you — especially since you're using Manifestation of Terror, as that's a more proactive stun rather than an "oh [snip]" stun. I also think you'll find that you won't need to dodge roll as often with all 3 skills (Cloak, RAT, and Concealed) on your back bar. (At least that's been my experience.)Maybe I’ll try healthy offering on my front bar, I’ve never tried it.
I tried switching terror to my front but it didn’t perform as well. Idk, might just be muscle memory. As a healer I think I get targeted more, there’s one dude Bobbyingo who’s good who does a lot of BGs who always goes after healers, whenever I see him I run and sometimes a dodge roll or cloak is all that saves me. Bar swops can get interrupted so I need a quick cloak to survive sometimes.
Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Just throwing this out there, in bgs healing ward + rapid + shade has been pretty effective. Downside of course it may not target you. But healing ward has not been a bad option to steath out and recover. I havent played much open world for a while so idk if it works for that.
Just throwing this out there, in bgs healing ward + rapid + shade has been pretty effective. Downside of course it may not target you. But healing ward has not been a bad option to steath out and recover. I havent played much open world for a while so idk if it works for that.
Yea, I use healing ward quite a bit. It's inconsistent in BGs, what I usually do is healthy offering others and then apply it to myself. Rapid regen is great for solo or dueling, terrible in BGs though.
I'm resigned to using recrappy path again, IDK, I wish I could fit concealed weapon but at least there's a possibility of giving others major expedition.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=207332
Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Dunkelblitz wrote: »Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Yepp I also have done this move, but I really miss cloak. Is there an other suitable replace for the heal morph to continue keeping cloak? Rapid regen is sadly not reliable.
brandonv516 wrote: »Dunkelblitz wrote: »Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Yepp I also have done this move, but I really miss cloak. Is there an other suitable replace for the heal morph to continue keeping cloak? Rapid regen is sadly not reliable.
I find it pretty reliable but it would be nice if it was self-cast.
You just have to put in more effort when you use it (get LoS from teammates and enemies lol).
brandonv516 wrote: »Dunkelblitz wrote: »Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Yepp I also have done this move, but I really miss cloak. Is there an other suitable replace for the heal morph to continue keeping cloak? Rapid regen is sadly not reliable.
I find it pretty reliable but it would be nice if it was self-cast.
You just have to put in more effort when you use it (get LoS from teammates and enemies lol).
There’s always radiating regen. In a BG you sort of need to stick with your group, it’s half the healing per second but has the advantage of healing team mates.
If you want self sufficient healing in a group setting really it’s stam, MagWarden, magdk or magsorc these days.
brandonv516 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Dunkelblitz wrote: »Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Yepp I also have done this move, but I really miss cloak. Is there an other suitable replace for the heal morph to continue keeping cloak? Rapid regen is sadly not reliable.
I find it pretty reliable but it would be nice if it was self-cast.
You just have to put in more effort when you use it (get LoS from teammates and enemies lol).
There’s always radiating regen. In a BG you sort of need to stick with your group, it’s half the healing per second but has the advantage of healing team mates.
If you want self sufficient healing in a group setting really it’s stam, MagWarden, magdk or magsorc these days.
I don't think I've ran the other morph of Regeneration since Mutagen.
I also don't think I'd ever choose Dark Cloak.
After all the time using it since the update, Shadowy Disguise doesn't seem as broken on console as some on PC made it out to be.
It's been pretty reliable over the last few days, other than pets and the occasional gap closer spammer that pulls me out (which was intended).
brandonv516 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Dunkelblitz wrote: »Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Yepp I also have done this move, but I really miss cloak. Is there an other suitable replace for the heal morph to continue keeping cloak? Rapid regen is sadly not reliable.
I find it pretty reliable but it would be nice if it was self-cast.
You just have to put in more effort when you use it (get LoS from teammates and enemies lol).
There’s always radiating regen. In a BG you sort of need to stick with your group, it’s half the healing per second but has the advantage of healing team mates.
If you want self sufficient healing in a group setting really it’s stam, MagWarden, magdk or magsorc these days.
I don't think I've ran the other morph of Regeneration since Mutagen.
I also don't think I'd ever choose Dark Cloak.
After all the time using it since the update, Shadowy Disguise doesn't seem as broken on console as some on PC made it out to be.
It's been pretty reliable over the last few days, other than pets and the occasional gap closer spammer that pulls me out (which was intended).
Yea, dark cloak is hot trash. Ever since they buffed onslaught it’s been unusable, the HPS is low and cloak is your only chance of escaping someone using an alt. It works great in duels, but as soon as you’re fighting two people you’ll get overwhelmed.
I’m surprised you haven’t tried radiating regen, that’s sorta the status quo as mag on PC. Every mag will do maybe 200k healing with just radiating. There are also a lot of 1vX S&B mag specs in BGs, but they mostly get wrecked or carried... except the occasional magnecro tank can be okayish.
HEBREWHAMMERRR wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Dunkelblitz wrote: »Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Yepp I also have done this move, but I really miss cloak. Is there an other suitable replace for the heal morph to continue keeping cloak? Rapid regen is sadly not reliable.
I find it pretty reliable but it would be nice if it was self-cast.
You just have to put in more effort when you use it (get LoS from teammates and enemies lol).
There’s always radiating regen. In a BG you sort of need to stick with your group, it’s half the healing per second but has the advantage of healing team mates.
If you want self sufficient healing in a group setting really it’s stam, MagWarden, magdk or magsorc these days.
I don't think I've ran the other morph of Regeneration since Mutagen.
I also don't think I'd ever choose Dark Cloak.
After all the time using it since the update, Shadowy Disguise doesn't seem as broken on console as some on PC made it out to be.
It's been pretty reliable over the last few days, other than pets and the occasional gap closer spammer that pulls me out (which was intended).
Yea, dark cloak is hot trash. Ever since they buffed onslaught it’s been unusable, the HPS is low and cloak is your only chance of escaping someone using an alt. It works great in duels, but as soon as you’re fighting two people you’ll get overwhelmed.
I’m surprised you haven’t tried radiating regen, that’s sorta the status quo as mag on PC. Every mag will do maybe 200k healing with just radiating. There are also a lot of 1vX S&B mag specs in BGs, but they mostly get wrecked or carried... except the occasional magnecro tank can be okayish.
I think dark cloak is great, run troll king for some extra incoming heals, if you get targeted and troll king procs with sugar skulls you’ve got like 3k health regen, throw out a fear / shade away and you’re good. I haven’t seriously slotted cloak in a long time except to try out some trolly gank builds.
HEBREWHAMMERRR wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Dunkelblitz wrote: »Really missed my magblade, so I caved and switched cloak to the heal morph. Changed my build to be a bit more tankier without sacrificing the damage I was used to. switched CPs to be more defensive against burst and physical, and suddenly im 1v3ing again.
Fun times again.
Yepp I also have done this move, but I really miss cloak. Is there an other suitable replace for the heal morph to continue keeping cloak? Rapid regen is sadly not reliable.
I find it pretty reliable but it would be nice if it was self-cast.
You just have to put in more effort when you use it (get LoS from teammates and enemies lol).
There’s always radiating regen. In a BG you sort of need to stick with your group, it’s half the healing per second but has the advantage of healing team mates.
If you want self sufficient healing in a group setting really it’s stam, MagWarden, magdk or magsorc these days.
I don't think I've ran the other morph of Regeneration since Mutagen.
I also don't think I'd ever choose Dark Cloak.
After all the time using it since the update, Shadowy Disguise doesn't seem as broken on console as some on PC made it out to be.
It's been pretty reliable over the last few days, other than pets and the occasional gap closer spammer that pulls me out (which was intended).
Yea, dark cloak is hot trash. Ever since they buffed onslaught it’s been unusable, the HPS is low and cloak is your only chance of escaping someone using an alt. It works great in duels, but as soon as you’re fighting two people you’ll get overwhelmed.
I’m surprised you haven’t tried radiating regen, that’s sorta the status quo as mag on PC. Every mag will do maybe 200k healing with just radiating. There are also a lot of 1vX S&B mag specs in BGs, but they mostly get wrecked or carried... except the occasional magnecro tank can be okayish.
I think dark cloak is great, run troll king for some extra incoming heals, if you get targeted and troll king procs with sugar skulls you’ve got like 3k health regen, throw out a fear / shade away and you’re good. I haven’t seriously slotted cloak in a long time except to try out some trolly gank builds.
Are you primarily solo? My issue with dark cloak is I mainly do BGs and try to stick with my group. I can’t shade away while supporting and dark cloak isn’t enough defense to relieve pressure, it’s more like flat extra tankiness. I get better results in BGs with shadowy disguise because I can cloak pressure off and stay near my group.