Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »
Gacha mechanics/loot boxes/crates should be banned, imo. They have no place in the gaming world. Its gambling (lets be honest), and kids play this game (see how technically sticky that is?). Kids aside, its just a greedy practice in general.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »If that's your stance, you don't pay real money for Crown Crates, @darthgummibear_ESO.
NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »
Gacha mechanics/loot boxes/crates should be banned, imo. They have no place in the gaming world. Its gambling (lets be honest), and kids play this game (see how technically sticky that is?). Kids aside, its just a greedy practice in general.
I'm not going to mention the other stuff since I doubt there's many that likes loot boxes, but I felt like pointing out that ESO is rated mature. Kids shouldn't be playing it.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »If that's your stance, you don't pay real money for Crown Crates, @darthgummibear_ESO.
If the cosmetics contained within them are that important, have someone gift you the crates using in-game gold.
All the crates I've ever received are either by gifting or free from events ...
Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »
Gacha mechanics/loot boxes/crates should be banned, imo. They have no place in the gaming world. Its gambling (lets be honest), and kids play this game (see how technically sticky that is?). Kids aside, its just a greedy practice in general.
I'm not going to mention the other stuff since I doubt there's many that likes loot boxes, but I felt like pointing out that ESO is rated mature. Kids shouldn't be playing it.
Have you ever worked at a game store? Because you need to open your eyes to what kids actually play now a days lol That is a parenting issue. That's almost another loop hole: so long as it's rated for adults... don't mind any of the parents who don't know what their kids are spending money on.
Regardless of le chillren, the point stands: its greedy, and dishonest. Micro transactions are one thing (and for a while used to be reasonable *cough* thanks Candy Crush *cough*) but crates and the like are a whole other beast that never should have been unleashed.
Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »
Gacha mechanics/loot boxes/crates should be banned, imo. They have no place in the gaming world. Its gambling (lets be honest), and kids play this game (see how technically sticky that is?). Kids aside, its just a greedy practice in general.
I'm not going to mention the other stuff since I doubt there's many that likes loot boxes, but I felt like pointing out that ESO is rated mature. Kids shouldn't be playing it.
Have you ever worked at a game store? Because you need to open your eyes to what kids actually play now a days lol That is a parenting issue. That's almost another loop hole: so long as it's rated for adults... don't mind any of the parents who don't know what their kids are spending money on.
Regardless of le chillren, the point stands: its greedy, and dishonest. Micro transactions are one thing (and for a while used to be reasonable *cough* thanks Candy Crush *cough*) but crates and the like are a whole other beast that never should have been unleashed.
there does need to be a reckoning on some practices in the games industry as a whole. I know costs of creating a game are much higher so i really do not mind non predatory microtransactions - not pay to win. i understand it is needed to keep prices of games down. But the predatory stuff needs to be reigned in.
give me good content, good dlc, good additions to the game and i will gladly support it. Keep overpricing things, gambling and predatory type additions - i will take my money to a game that earns my money
LadyDestiny wrote: »I would much prefer knowing what I am paying for. If I want to pay 3000k crowns for a mount I will do that. I think Zos woyld benefit more if peoole could actually buy what they want. Spending real life money on stacks of potions in not a good thing especially when you use crafted ones anyway. Why are crown foods and potions even a thing?
Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »They have no place in the gaming world. Its gambling (lets be honest), and kids play this game (see how technically sticky that is?).
Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »i.e. EA and the Battlefront 2 disaster (loot boxes). They got rid of them (good riddance). Why? Because enough people voiced their disgust with EA's greedy plot. Not being dramatic lol. Basically what happened.
darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »I don't buy crates period...that was the whole point.
The way things look to me the last year or so is that the game isn't doing as well as they'd like. Is it doing well enough, sure, but because of tricks and gimmicks.
They have to trick players into doing content by doing things like releasing motifs and not telling people about a cooldown on drops. Or having events. And lately making event RNG drops even worse. All things that trick/force players into playing boring content that they normally ignore.
Same with cosmetics. They apparently cannot support the game by just making quality cosmetics and selling them and have to resort to gambling to squeeze the most out of things.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »If that's your stance, you don't pay real money for Crown Crates,
Taleof2Cities wrote: »If that's your stance, you don't pay real money for Crown Crates,
This is splitting hairs since it costs real money, one way or another, to get crowns in the first place.
To OP, while this thread might be useful to vent your rage there is a poll Zos takes every month to gauge how much players like the crown crates and other items sold in the crown store. That revenue speaks louder than any thread someone can create.
The loot boxes may be gambling, but gambling is gaming.
LadyDestiny wrote: »I would much prefer knowing what I am paying for. If I want to pay 3000k crowns for a mount I will do that. I think Zos woyld benefit more if peoole could actually buy what they want. Spending real life money on stacks of potions in not a good thing especially when you use crafted ones anyway. Why are crown foods and potions even a thing?
Well, you can cash them in for gems, via gem extraction, of course.
Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »The loot boxes may be gambling, but gambling is gaming.
Fruit is to Apple as Gaming is to Gambling. Please keep your oranges out of the apple basket, lest people start thinking dogs meow and cats bark.
You're comparing 2 different markets/industries linked by the definition of an umbrella term. Technically, gambling is a form of gaming, but ESO isn't a casino...
LadyDestiny wrote: »I would much prefer knowing what I am paying for. If I want to pay 3000k crowns for a mount I will do that. I think Zos woyld benefit more if peoole could actually buy what they want. Spending real life money on stacks of potions in not a good thing especially when you use crafted ones anyway. Why are crown foods and potions even a thing?
Well, you can cash them in for gems, via gem extraction, of course.
Which could end up costing 150.000 crowns depending on your luck instead of the usual 3 to 5000 crowns
CeroSerotonin wrote: »I noticed the Auroran Knight is now purchasable in crown gems. In a way, the price of it went up because you have to gamble more crates to get it (100 gems in comparison to the previous 2000 crowns/1600 crowns with ESO+) or who knows, the RNG may be kind.