Aikar wrote: »

It means they have engineers that are a decent enough skill level to know HOW to refactor the code base to accomplish this.

So no, they don't need a new team or a new engine.

Do they though? The entire thing is built on a house of cards, and they can't appear to squeeze more out of it without breaking something else. Other games have managed to create a fluid gaming experience that won't waste an hour of my gaming time because I DC on the last boss of a dungeon or wipe repeatedly in a trial because my skills stopped firing at random. People don't bother going for speed/no-death achievements post-Harrowstorm because the game is too unreliable to trust that your failure is due to you instead of the bugs. It was bad before, and it's worse now when the intent was to improve it. I'm at the point where that is what the game is for me - the outcome of my efforts is randomly determined by new bugs. It's six years in and they still haven't mastered their own code, and from beta to date, Cyrodil has never really worked. Everyone who is left that still plays in Cyro does so with the understanding that bugs and DCs are part of the game.

Meanwhile my kids load other network games with better graphics in 4K on XBox which run flawlessly, without lag or stutter, and when you press buttons, the game does the thing that the button is supposed to do, every time. My kids got tired of the bugs in ESO and unsubbed. I unsubbed and am holding off on purchasing Greymoor until ZOS demonstrates the reliability of their product. I love ESO, but it has nothing left for me as a gamer if what I do in game is not reliably executed. I think that is partly a function of an aging engine and code libraries that no longer work well on modern hardware, and who knows what the story really is with the servers.

I will offer a positive - there is a lot of communication on their broader plans. To date, they have delivered on some, failed on others, and created new and unintended problems to fix down the road. The response is they are slow to acknowledge if the problem even exists, and once they do, the implement a fix that breaks something else. It's maddening, and if their "skill level" were appropriate to the task, we would not be where we are right now.

Certainly not - it is not my job as a customer to pay several times for a game just because it isn't working properly. it is ZOS's job to make it work for the money they already got and getting from my subscription. If they want to do that with a new engine, fine, but no reason for me to pay again.

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Yes, if all my progress, achievements, gear ect. would carry over.

Don't tell them this - they have to deliver a properly working product first and show they are able to do that - currently it doesn't look like it - those stutters are worse than in in most early access alpha state games - a shame really.

not to talk about that it takes them a felt eternity to fix anything - it is never in a timely manner - these stutters are so unprofessional, why the heck is this not immediately fixed within 24 or 48 hours.

If dev team would be different than one doing "fixes".

I think the engine is part of it, but I also at this point have no other choice than to blame it on incompetence. No explanations. No plan of action to fix where the last plan of action made things worse.

It doesn't matter if you let a blind man drive a Kia or a Ferrari. We're going to crash.

No way man. I did not know what an MMO was when I began playing. Much as I love eso, I couldn’t see getting involved in such another all consuming game again.

Not if whoever's currently calling the shots is involved. After the past several years I've lost trust that the right decisions are being made with any of this publishers titles. Everything from charging for mods and the Fallout 76 mess to the gambling crates and how monetization has infected overall game designs. The over-hype campaigns and snazzy trailers for a product delivered broken 99% of the time. The writing's on the wall. They're just milking TES and Fallout fans at this point. This is what happens when good ol' corporate 'marika and their army of shills invade your hobby. Enjoy!