Fast way to earn ingame gold a.k.a. the Crown selling scam

Zulera301 · March 2020

really all they would need to do is have a sort of Cash On Delivery system with crown store items the same way they do with tradable in-game items.

that's literally it. that's all they'd have to do.

gifting items could remain as it is (just like you can send players items for free via mail or trade), and so really there wouldn't even need to be much to change.

Mr_Walker · March 2020

If you want to protect yourself a bit when buying from randoms, only buy something small to start with. I usually just buy from verified sellers, but occasionally I buy from randos. 1 crown crate from them. If I lose 30-40K it's a minor irritation, and I get to report their accounts

yRaven · March 2020

My crown scam happened 09/01/2019, ZoS didn't do nothing until today, what can i say is never buy from someone that's not CP810+, never give gold first, try to find someone you trust and only buy from him

dcam86b14_ESO · March 2020

It's not a scam.

I'm an avid seller and I've never had an issue. Reason being that I don't sell in zone chat.

There are networks of guilds who handle all the leg work and will insure all buyers and sellers to are legitimate.

So that way it comes down to more than he/she said. There's a digital trail with many eyes on it.

Do your research before witch hunting.

Tigerseye · March 2020

Saelent wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

I've said it before, but I guess I will say it, again:

What ZOS, ideally, need to do is to introduce a trading system, like the one in GW2, where they allow people to trade gold for Crowns, or Crowns for gold, automatically.

Then, not only is it 100% safe and convenient, they can also take a small cut off every exchange, which will add to their revenue and (hopefully) help them maintain the game.

They can then leave the gifting system purely for people giving (genuine) gifts.

Better for us; better for them.

Correct me if I’m wrong (been a while since I played GW2) but that system you’re talking about doesn’t involve real world cash to buy the crowns.
Because if that’s the case then that wouldn’t be better for ZoS because in the current system ZoS is getting money from the crown seller buying the crowns irl and ‘gifting’ the crown items in game.

Yes, it does involve real world cash to buy the Gems (which are GW2's version of Crowns).

How else would buying Gems work, especially for newer players who don't have much gold to convert, yet?

You buy Gems with real world cash and then can convert the Gems you have bought to gold, using the Currency Exchange system.

Or you can convert your gold (gained by playing the game) to Gems, again using the same system:

The market can vary according to whether gold, or Gems, are more in demand at any one time and each time there is a transaction (either way) Anet takes a small cut.

It's a beautiful and 100% safe system, which benefits both the player and the makers of the game.

Why would ZoS make a system that gives them a small cut? Even with the scams they likely make far more from real sellers each time the seller buys crowns. Small cuts are for intermediaries, your idea isn’t ideal at all and sounds more like you want to cut out an economy which has grown within the system as it is.

A trading system within the gifting system would be preferable to protect both sides, not a system that doesn’t include crown sellers at all.

No, what it sounds like is that you make money (or benefit in some other way) from the gifting system and so, don't want to lose out.

Which is a typical reaction for you to have, but please don't try to make out I am, somehow, the one with the vested interest here...

Thanks.

Tigerseye · March 2020

idk wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

I've said it before, but I guess I will say it, again:

What ZOS, ideally, need to do is to introduce a trading system, like the one in GW2, where they allow people to trade gold for Crowns, or Crowns for gold, automatically.

Then, not only is it 100% safe and convenient, they can also take a small cut off every exchange, which will add to their revenue and (hopefully) help them maintain the game.

They can then leave the gifting system purely for people giving (genuine) gifts.

Better for us; better for them.

I do not see mention of anything that makes this trade safe in any manner since the issue in ESO is trading directly with players. A similar scam to what OP mentions has occurred with trading valuable items in game since the game launched. My guess if something is left out, basically assuming everyone knows how GW2 actually does it. So basically I am suggesting a clear and more thorough answer.

Side note, Zos seems to want this system to be based on gifting. My suggestion though is to have items that can be gifted be direct purchases in the form of a token. That token can then be gifted or posted on a guild trader (for a safe trade). Of course players can still enter a direct trade with that token as they can now but clearly that would not be the brightest way to go.

Check my previous answer, above.

Tigerseye · March 2020

starkerealm wrote: »

Nerouyn wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ZOS has no interest in that because the purpose of the system is giving things, not trading them.

As is so often the case with ZO, the truth is much darker.

It is 100% intentional because they - Matt Firor - have falsely advertised the game as only requiring initial purchase and after that all DLC can be purchased with in game currency.

Not really, "advertising." That's an interview. However, that statement doesn't preclude the introduction of a more secure crowns for gold system.

You can use the word "advertise" in the sense of "make known".

It doesn't have to be via an advertisement.

You could, for example, "advertise" yourself as being single, just by telling someone you met in a bar that you were.

advertise
/ˈadvətʌɪz/
verb
verb: advertise; 3rd person present: advertises; past tense: advertised; past participle: advertised; gerund or present participle: advertising

describe or draw attention to (a product, service, or event) in a public medium in order to promote sales or attendance.
"a billboard advertising beer"

publicize information about (a vacancy).
"for every job we advertise we get a hundred applicants"

make (a quality or fact) known.
"Meryl coughed briefly to advertise her presence"