Earrindo wrote: »

When summerset came out all people requested was a small Villa like the one pictured with a medium to large plot of land attached somewhere in the countryside.

I didn't really visit the forums till I switched to PC so I must have missed it, but I hope it's something they will consider now. Especially with people turning away from the notable homes due to item limits, this is exactly the kind of thing that would appeal to many.

I would buy one of those homes in a heartbeat! The game is sorely lacking in these reasonably sized, cozy looking homes.

I would love this. The more rustic Alinor style architecture is so lovely, it almost feels a waste they haven't utilized it for a Classic home.

Given that they've added new houses to Wrothgar and Hew's Bane, it's not like there isn't a precedent for adding new houses to past DLC zones either.

I'd love these! I'd buy one instantly!

I'd also kill for those roofs and walls as building blocks!

One issue with Summerset is that the medium residences are all rather open properties, without the enclosing walls that are needed to make an instanced player home. Even the crown-only large home is a remote cave because of that. If we do get a medium home, it won't match the common style.

Or have it adjacent to/behind Ebon Stadmont. It could be nestled behind that wood, in the mountains above King's Haven pass. A gently sloping mountain meadow, with a cliff down to Ebon Stadmont on one side, and a sheer cliff behind up the mountain.

Or honestly any number of other notions. Looking on the map, there are a plethora of mountain valleys that could be made into an instanced house that has a medium to large outdoor space, but is still "invisible" from the outside.
If they wanted to do it, Summerset especially has myriad options for adding it in without it being in any way problematic.

It would cost them so little to make this for us and generate potentially thousands of dollars. They could spend an afternoon or two and bam tons of money being thrown at them. Idk who runs the housing choices and marketing moves. But @ZOS_GinaBruno GET THEM ON THIS STAT.

Aisleyne wrote: »

Summerset and all the furnishings that came with it are beautiful, but I could never bring myself to like the housing that came with it. The architecture of the Alinor Townhouse is stunning, but it's just sooo polished...sooo white and, for me personally, far too cold to ever be a home.

I strongly prefer Auridon style. It looks more elven. Their architecture clearly draws inspiration from flowers. Lots of curves and other petal like formations. With a bit of an Asian twist by way of all the cherry blossom trees.

Which aesthetically ties in nicely with the dunmer style, who have similar style trees but more Asian style buildings.

With Summerset they went in a totally different direction - focusing on the Altmer = *** thing. One of the Alinor styles, the more "modern" looking one, is kind of Bavarian gothic. But they've also exercised their ruin fetish and mixed in a totally different style - sort of Greece / Cyrpus / Crete. All the old columns and whatnot.

In the garden, still the Asian style cherry trees but mixed in with Mediterranean plants.

It's a bizarre fusion which fails on multiple levels, eg. lore. The newer, Bavarian gothic style shares similarities with their above ground Ayleid style. But the Ayleids came after the Altmer. Why would the snooty everything-derives-from-us Altmer copy Ayleid architecture?

IMO I can live with the white in the Alinor townhouse and given there's not much exterior to the place - which is where the worst of Alinor style is (those ghastly, saccharine minarets and fluttering penants) - but there's still a weird fusion on going on there. The lower floor has the Greek going on and upstairs it changes to the mix of stone and dark wood.

Aisleyne wrote: »

But the second I walked into one of the houses sprinkled throughout the zone and saw that same style recreated in wood and stone, I was in love--all the same grace and beauty, in a more natural form.

My theory - you're enjoying the lack of weird fusion. The little houses in the countryside are just Bavarian gothic and that's a big improvement.

Personally I don't hate them. They're ok. But they scratch neither my elven nor Elder Scrolls itches.

Olauron wrote: »

It is quite natural that two high elven races share similarities in architectural styles (having something like parent Aldmer style).

I'll try simplifying it more for you.

Altmer predate the Ayleids.

According to Summerset, the older Altmer style is the non-Ayleid one, the Greek'ish one.

Altmer are snobby as hell and make themselves out to be the first at everything.

It makes no sense at all for THEM to copy the later architectural style of the Ayleids, which is so old that everywhere in Tamriel it has fallen into a similar state of disrepair as the older Alinor style from summerset.

This equates to the Altmer brazenly plagiarising Ayleid style in stone, for all to see, and totally crazily thinking that no-one will question their claim to ultimate orginality.

Nerouyn wrote: »

Olauron wrote: »

It is quite natural that two high elven races share similarities in architectural styles (having something like parent Aldmer style).

I'll try simplifying it more for you.

Altmer predate the Ayleids.

According to Summerset, the older Altmer style is the non-Ayleid one, the Greek'ish one.

Altmer are snobby as hell and make themselves out to be the first at everything.

It makes no sense at all for THEM to copy the later architectural style of the Ayleids, which is so old that everywhere in Tamriel it has fallen into a similar state of disrepair as the older Alinor style from summerset.

This equates to the Altmer brazenly plagiarising Ayleid style in stone, for all to see, and totally crazily thinking that no-one will question their claim to ultimate orginality.

Altmer do not predate Ayleids. Aldmer predate Ayleids. Altmer are Aldmer who stayed on the Isles and built Crystal-Like-Law. Ayleid are Aldmer who occupied Cyrod and built White-Gold. Both are not changed by external forces. They are like twin siblings.

The oldest city is Firsthold on Auridon. The 'Ayleid' ruins on Auridon are actually Aldmer ruins since there were no Ayleid settlements on the Isles.

Nerouyn wrote: »

For all that they changed their name, the Altmer are effectively the Aldmer - same race, same culture, same place (Summerset) - and do predate the Ayleids.

The only difference between Ayleid and Altmer is just in place of living. So Ayleid are effectively the Aldmer too. There are no physical differences between those races.

Nerouyn wrote: »

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ayleid

The Ayleids began as groups of Mer who left the Summerset Isles to create splinter cultures in central and southwest Tamriel.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Altmer

Social clashes among the Aldmer would lead to a series of emigrations from Summerset Isle to regions all over Tamriel, notably under the prophet Veloth, which would lead to the great diversification of Elven races, such as the Chimer, Bosmer, Orsimer and Ayleids (exactly when and where the Dwemer and Snow Elves emerged is not clear, but they are believed to all have a common ancestry).

Nowhere (even on uesp) it is said when exactly Aldmer became Altmer. Nowhere it is said that Ayleid left Summerset after Altmer came into being. What is said is that both are the only elves equally named High Elves.

Nerouyn wrote: »

Those snotty *** who ran off to worship their filthy daedra. Yeah. Let's show them and everyone else our superiority and older roots by abandoning our own style of building and copying theirs.

You should check your sources. Magnus is not Daedra. Auri-El is not Daedra. Also, Ayleid did not run off. Ayleid were the Aldmer colonial forces. Eventually their kingdoms became independent, but at first they were under the High King of Alinor (just like kings of Firsthold, Sunhold, etc.).