Summerset Housing Request

Aisleyne

The excitement caused by the Luxury Furnishings this week has inspired me to finally post something I've been thinking about for a long time. Before the ESO live with @ZOS_CullenLee and the recent addition of a long-requested Orc Longhouse, I had little hope that posting would actually yield any results. Summerset and all the furnishings that came with it are beautiful, but I could never bring myself to like the housing that came with it. The architecture of the Alinor Townhouse is stunning, but it's just sooo polished...sooo white and, for me personally, far too cold to ever be a home. But the second I walked into one of the houses sprinkled throughout the zone and saw that same style recreated in wood and stone, I was in love--all the same grace and beauty, in a more natural form. With all the ups and downs the housing community has experienced lately, we could use more wins. I would love to see a nice medium sized home with a yard done in this style.

Exteriors

Interiors

Scion_of_Yggdrasil

YES.There are multiple wood paneling options throughout Summerset, my favorite being the intricate wood accents in some homes (I'll have to rememeber which house and take a screen save).

I wish "Wall Design" or "Flooring" was a customization option in homes. I could see why that might be complicated though, if the pattern involves repeating segments (wouldn't want an intricate pattern cut in half on one side of the wall).

Earrindo

When summerset came out all people requested was a small Villa like the one pictured with a medium to large plot of land attached somewhere in the countryside.
I also think this would be an excellent addition, and there are indeed many examples of more interesting the natural looking altmer interiors, yet every house now in that style only uses the pure white stone, which is fine in spots, but we miss out on some of the amazing variety visible around the isle.

I've not bought any homes for a good long while, but this is the kind of house I'd snap up in a hot second.

Aisleyne

Earrindo wrote: »

When summerset came out all people requested was a small Villa like the one pictured with a medium to large plot of land attached somewhere in the countryside.

I didn't really visit the forums till I switched to PC so I must have missed it, but I hope it's something they will consider now. Especially with people turning away from the notable homes due to item limits, this is exactly the kind of thing that would appeal to many.

kind_hero

It is odd that they released the trees and the large structures 2 years after the Summerset release.

People got in love with these beautiful houses right away, so they have been requested many times, especially the 1st one.

I would change my main residence to one of these. If such a house would have a basement (like some houses in Summerset have), it would be perfect... you have courtyard, base level, upper floor, and basement, in a house that is medium-large sized.

Considering they have just released a Wrothgar and Bangkorai house, I don't see anything in the way of a much requested Summerset house!

P.S. I hope they will release the stable "house" as well (you can see one near the Shimerine wayshrine)

anadandy

I would buy one of those homes in a heartbeat! The game is sorely lacking in these reasonably sized, cozy looking homes.

Nevidyra

Yes please, goodness yes!! We NEED a medium-sized house like this on Summerset.

AltmerGF

I would love this. The more rustic Alinor style architecture is so lovely, it almost feels a waste they haven't utilized it for a Classic home.

Given that they've added new houses to Wrothgar and Hew's Bane, it's not like there isn't a precedent for adding new houses to past DLC zones either.

thetookybird

I've always loved the look of the more rustic Altmer houses. The wood paneling is gorgeous, and I was a bit sad to see it missing from the Townhouse. If ZOS were to add anything like this, I would be all over it. It definitely has a much warmer look to it! Thanks for posting this

bellatrixed

I'd love these! I'd buy one instantly!

I'd also kill for those roofs and walls as building blocks!

Ostacia

My favorite house is my Alinor Townhouse and I'd love a country place like this!

Tigerseye

Yes, they're nice.

Not to hi-jack your thread, but I would also like this tower:





This exact tower (with a few modications), in the same location, ideally:



Ideally, it would have 4 floors, with a spiral staircase (running around the outside of the wall) linking the 3 in the tower.

Would need to add some windows.

If they were clear, so you could see the sea, that would be the icing on the cake!

Also, ideally, a back door (or two) that would lead to a terrace area at the back and/or a balcony overlooking the sea.

Here are some views from what would be the terrace:







Could also add a wayshrine, for convenience, as the nearest one is a swim away!

This tower house should have a generous furnishing limit, for its size - at the very least 600, ideally 700.

Veranwe

Yes, please! An Alinor cottage on some land would be lovely!

ghastley

One issue with Summerset is that the medium residences are all rather open properties, without the enclosing walls that are needed to make an instanced player home. Even the crown-only large home is a remote cave because of that. If we do get a medium home, it won't match the common style.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

ghastley wrote: »

One issue with Summerset is that the medium residences are all rather open properties, without the enclosing walls that are needed to make an instanced player home. Even the crown-only large home is a remote cave because of that. If we do get a medium home, it won't match the common style.

I don't think adding a wall to define the boundaries of the property would change the look all that much. Summerset has a largely meadow appearance with no heavy forests. If you create a large outdoor area it would keep the meadow like appearance and not require a lot of landscaping that takes up slots to look good.

Earrindo

Or have it adjacent to/behind Ebon Stadmont. It could be nestled behind that wood, in the mountains above King's Haven pass. A gently sloping mountain meadow, with a cliff down to Ebon Stadmont on one side, and a sheer cliff behind up the mountain.

Or honestly any number of other notions. Looking on the map, there are a plethora of mountain valleys that could be made into an instanced house that has a medium to large outdoor space, but is still "invisible" from the outside.
If they wanted to do it, Summerset especially has myriad options for adding it in without it being in any way problematic.

SpaceElf

Yes yes yes please

Tigerseye

Need one of these rural houses, with a large garden, to put the new windmill in.

Danikat

I agree, I'd love a smaller Summerset house like this!

TheNuminous1

It would cost them so little to make this for us and generate potentially thousands of dollars. They could spend an afternoon or two and bam tons of money being thrown at them. Idk who runs the housing choices and marketing moves. But @ZOS_GinaBruno GET THEM ON THIS STAT.

wodkamanostrab16_ESO

Oh yes I couldn't agree more. I love Summerset and it definitely deserves more player houses! Also now that we have that greenhouse, the windmill and the trees the house needs a big yard. Please please let it happen.

Nerouyn

Aisleyne wrote: »

Summerset and all the furnishings that came with it are beautiful, but I could never bring myself to like the housing that came with it. The architecture of the Alinor Townhouse is stunning, but it's just sooo polished...sooo white and, for me personally, far too cold to ever be a home.

I strongly prefer Auridon style. It looks more elven. Their architecture clearly draws inspiration from flowers. Lots of curves and other petal like formations. With a bit of an Asian twist by way of all the cherry blossom trees.

Which aesthetically ties in nicely with the dunmer style, who have similar style trees but more Asian style buildings.

With Summerset they went in a totally different direction - focusing on the Altmer = *** thing. One of the Alinor styles, the more "modern" looking one, is kind of Bavarian gothic. But they've also exercised their ruin fetish and mixed in a totally different style - sort of Greece / Cyrpus / Crete. All the old columns and whatnot.

In the garden, still the Asian style cherry trees but mixed in with Mediterranean plants.

It's a bizarre fusion which fails on multiple levels, eg. lore. The newer, Bavarian gothic style shares similarities with their above ground Ayleid style. But the Ayleids came after the Altmer. Why would the snooty everything-derives-from-us Altmer copy Ayleid architecture?

IMO I can live with the white in the Alinor townhouse and given there's not much exterior to the place - which is where the worst of Alinor style is (those ghastly, saccharine minarets and fluttering penants) - but there's still a weird fusion on going on there. The lower floor has the Greek going on and upstairs it changes to the mix of stone and dark wood.

Aisleyne wrote: »

But the second I walked into one of the houses sprinkled throughout the zone and saw that same style recreated in wood and stone, I was in love--all the same grace and beauty, in a more natural form.

My theory - you're enjoying the lack of weird fusion. The little houses in the countryside are just Bavarian gothic and that's a big improvement.

Personally I don't hate them. They're ok. But they scratch neither my elven nor Elder Scrolls itches.

Olauron

Nerouyn wrote: »

It's a bizarre fusion which fails on multiple levels, eg. lore. The newer, Bavarian gothic style shares similarities with their above ground Ayleid style. But the Ayleids came after the Altmer. Why would the snooty everything-derives-from-us Altmer copy Ayleid architecture?

Both Ayleid and Altmer are High Elves (Heartland and Island). Both Ayleid and Altmer are the purest descendants of Aldmer (with Chimer I guess, but we have only one and a half Chimer in 2nd era and likely none in the 4th). It is quite natural that two high elven races share similarities in architectural styles (having something like parent Aldmer style).

Nerouyn

Olauron wrote: »

It is quite natural that two high elven races share similarities in architectural styles (having something like parent Aldmer style).

I'll try simplifying it more for you.

Altmer predate the Ayleids.

According to Summerset, the older Altmer style is the non-Ayleid one, the Greek'ish one.

Altmer are snobby as hell and make themselves out to be the first at everything.

It makes no sense at all for THEM to copy the later architectural style of the Ayleids, which is so old that everywhere in Tamriel it has fallen into a similar state of disrepair as the older Alinor style from summerset.

This equates to the Altmer brazenly plagiarising Ayleid style in stone, for all to see, and totally crazily thinking that no-one will question their claim to ultimate orginality.

LadySinflower

You and everyone else! The different styles of buildings in Summerset, especially the homes, are very attractive. Those exact things you mentioned, mainly a regular sized home with a yard, are greatly desired my most of ESO's player base. Despite this, ZOS gets it wrong time and time again! I've never seen a company that seemed so determined to anger their customer base! We ask for normal sized homes, they give us temples and palaces. We ask for things to be in good condition, they give us crumbling walls, piles of rubble, and blowing sand. We ask for gold-purchaseable homes that are always available, they give us limited-time-crown-store-only expensive places. But your point is still valid. Lots of players agree with you. It just seems that ZOS thinks they know what we want better than we do.

Olauron

Nerouyn wrote: »

Olauron wrote: »

It is quite natural that two high elven races share similarities in architectural styles (having something like parent Aldmer style).

I'll try simplifying it more for you.

Altmer predate the Ayleids.

According to Summerset, the older Altmer style is the non-Ayleid one, the Greek'ish one.

Altmer are snobby as hell and make themselves out to be the first at everything.

It makes no sense at all for THEM to copy the later architectural style of the Ayleids, which is so old that everywhere in Tamriel it has fallen into a similar state of disrepair as the older Alinor style from summerset.

This equates to the Altmer brazenly plagiarising Ayleid style in stone, for all to see, and totally crazily thinking that no-one will question their claim to ultimate orginality.

Altmer do not predate Ayleids. Aldmer predate Ayleids. Altmer are Aldmer who stayed on the Isles and built Crystal-Like-Law. Ayleid are Aldmer who occupied Cyrod and built White-Gold. Both are not changed by external forces. They are like twin siblings.

The oldest city is Firsthold on Auridon. The 'Ayleid' ruins on Auridon are actually Aldmer ruins since there were no Ayleid settlements on the Isles.

Nerouyn

Olauron wrote: »

Altmer do not predate Ayleids.

For all that they changed their name, the Altmer are effectively the Aldmer - same race, same culture, same place (Summerset) - and do predate the Ayleids.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ayleid

The Ayleids began as groups of Mer who left the Summerset Isles to create splinter cultures in central and southwest Tamriel.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Altmer

Social clashes among the Aldmer would lead to a series of emigrations from Summerset Isle to regions all over Tamriel, notably under the prophet Veloth, which would lead to the great diversification of Elven races, such as the Chimer, Bosmer, Orsimer and Ayleids (exactly when and where the Dwemer and Snow Elves emerged is not clear, but they are believed to all have a common ancestry).

So my point stands totally unchallenged.

It doesn't make any sense at all for the newer Summerset building style to copy aspects of Ayleid architecture. Those snotty *** who ran off to worship their filthy daedra. Yeah. Let's show them and everyone else our superiority and older roots by abandoning our own style of building and copying theirs.

Olauron

Nerouyn wrote: »

For all that they changed their name, the Altmer are effectively the Aldmer - same race, same culture, same place (Summerset) - and do predate the Ayleids.

The only difference between Ayleid and Altmer is just in place of living. So Ayleid are effectively the Aldmer too. There are no physical differences between those races.

Nerouyn wrote: »

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ayleid

The Ayleids began as groups of Mer who left the Summerset Isles to create splinter cultures in central and southwest Tamriel.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Altmer

Social clashes among the Aldmer would lead to a series of emigrations from Summerset Isle to regions all over Tamriel, notably under the prophet Veloth, which would lead to the great diversification of Elven races, such as the Chimer, Bosmer, Orsimer and Ayleids (exactly when and where the Dwemer and Snow Elves emerged is not clear, but they are believed to all have a common ancestry).

Nowhere (even on uesp) it is said when exactly Aldmer became Altmer. Nowhere it is said that Ayleid left Summerset after Altmer came into being. What is said is that both are the only elves equally named High Elves.

Nerouyn wrote: »

Those snotty *** who ran off to worship their filthy daedra. Yeah. Let's show them and everyone else our superiority and older roots by abandoning our own style of building and copying theirs.

You should check your sources. Magnus is not Daedra. Auri-El is not Daedra. Also, Ayleid did not run off. Ayleid were the Aldmer colonial forces. Eventually their kingdoms became independent, but at first they were under the High King of Alinor (just like kings of Firsthold, Sunhold, etc.).