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Hey zenimax! Seperate roleplayers pls
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✭Veinblood1965 wrote: »Well to give the OP credit it's a little better than seeing another "kick fank tank" subject line thread. Even if it's not accurate.
How is smearing roleplayers remotely better than seeing another kick fake tank thread?
Hmm... I get to put another dime in my jar, perhaps...
I absolutely agree. I'm all in favor of kicking fake tanks, at least if I'm absolutely certain they're really "fake", and not just inexperienced or whatever, but roleplayers are probably the least problematic group of players in ESO, and yet they (or "we", actually, because I like to rp, too, I just avoid it in group content) are frowned upon pretty regularly for no good reason. And there is absolutely no need to invent even more non-reasons like this one just to make RPers look bad.This poor little Bosmer stealth passive had passionate friends and a big loving family!6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Salvas_Aren wrote: »Some people who have full tanks prefer to faketank because they are in fear of fake DDs.
Having DDs who do 6k DPS together means they need faketanks to get carried.
True but most of us just avoid the GF altogether and join or form groups from our guilds. We tend to get much better groups than what we the activity finder would provide us.
This is the safest and smartest way to go for anyone at any skill level. If you are learning your guildmates will be more understanding. If you are at a decent skill level you are likely in a guild with decent players making the run smoother. It just makes sense.
It all depends on time you have right now. If you want to grind achievements or did all pledges, maybe on several toons it is worthwhile gathering a group for it for 2-3 hours. But for quick run guild/friends group is always a slow start... people need to re-log, to take pledges, then they'll remember they have inferior toons without undaunted leveled and switch to them with trash gear, while giggling that it is PVP toon as an excuse for low dps.
While if you just have half hour for some quick keys.. pugging on tank is a good option.
You are doing something wrong if grouping is a slow start. Maybe it is your choice of guild as there are a lot of guilds full of members that are poorly managed to the point most of those members do nothing with that guild.
Regardless of the reasons you have problems forming a group fast the OP specifically states they spent 3 hours in the mess they describe. What you are saying makes no sense in the context of this thread.Edited by idk on March 4, 2020 3:58PM0 -
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✭Sounds like logic has left the building!
If you are a RP player most of the time you are fighting imaginary NPCs that your game master creates for you to fight (roll dice etc).
If you come to an MMO an expect to RP in a random dungeon group either the person is trolling or has lost the plot!
You can cater for needs, you don't need to overlap.
*edited for typo*
Edited by Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo on March 4, 2020 3:43PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I've been called a Roleplayer in Cyrodiil because I play the objectives. So, logically...
Kick every PvPer from Cyrodiil who would rather Duel and or fight just for the sake of fighting, and leave it for the "Roleplayers".CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭Sounds like logic has left the building!
If you are a RP player most of the time you are fighting imaginary NPCs that your game master creates for you to fight (roll dice etc).
If you come to an MMO an expect to RP in a random dungeon group either the person is trolling or has lost the plot!
You can cater for needs, you don't need to overlap.
*edited for typo*
They are just using the term role player to denote someone that does not meet their standards.
If they had followed my advice of forming their own group from their guilds, letting them set the standards, they would have saved themselves some grief and a lot of time.
Some have said that when they are in a hurry it takes to long to form a group. That is really an absurd argument when put up against that OP spent 3 hours with this mess.5 -
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✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »
So is the destro staff(exept ice)Edited by Dark_Lord_Kuro on March 4, 2020 4:14PM0 -
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✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »That has nothing to do with roleplaying...
I can't find another reason why someone would tank with a bow tho
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MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »You did good. Made the group tool function so you can only put one role. People still don't give a ***. 3'rd times now whipefest because the tank use bow instead of a taunt. I think this is a legit reason for ragequit and remove the penalty after quitting for group tool because of this would be nice too. Please permaban those who are registered as their role without doing it, specially in a vet dlc dung when they are cp 810. They clearly have bought their account or nothing to do in an online game besides offline mode and housing ty. A dungeon with rng drops and bis gear, is not designed to sit quietly and patient for 3 hours because one person decided he wanted to tank with a bow today. If you wanna rp in dung, say it in special guilds. I don't come and ruin roleplaying, so roleplayers pls don't come ruin dungeon runs either. It works both ways!
I have seen many failed vet Dungeons because of fake tanks and healers.
The fake player is always someone 810. They are also always the player complaining about no one doing the role they selected.
Got into Banish Cell 2 and we had a fake tank with 12k health using Bow and DW. On the last boss we wiped multiple times and they asked me to tank. I'm like no; I selected healer and am playing my role. I'm not a DPS and not a tank. I left after 3 tries and told the group why, because we didn't have a proper tank.
Prior to leaving I noticed a nice long text from the fake tank stating how the rest of the group was scrub that needed him to carry us through the dungeon. I laughed because he ended up on the on the stone slabs face first on every fight including adds. He was constantly dying in the dungeon. He didn't use food or nothing in a Vet 2 and tried to by pass the DD que by selecting tank. Hopefully that player learned their lesson.
I was on my tank and got Spindle Clutch 2. We got a fake healer. My friend who was on his DD died once and was livid because the healer was providing zero heals. He ended up using his healing pet just to keep himself alive. If the healer would have healed we would have gotten the no death run as my friend only died on the first boss.
I recommend the following for any group finder dungeons.
Tanks: Get 25% damage out reduction and healing abilities are 75% less effective
DD: Take 10% more damage and healing abilities are 75% less effective
Healers: Take 10% more damage and do 25% less damage
This would encourage players to play the role in dungeons and ensure healers and tanks are worth bringing into the dungeon.
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✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »furiouslog wrote: »OrphanHelgen wrote: »You did good. Made the group tool function so you can only put one role. People still don't give a ***. 3'rd times now whipefest because the tank use bow instead of a taunt. I think this is a legit reason for ragequit and remove the penalty after quitting for group tool because of this would be nice too. Please permaban those who are registered as their role without doing it, specially in a vet dlc dung when they are cp 810. They clearly have bought their account or nothing to do in an online game besides offline mode and housing ty. A dungeon with rng drops and bis gear, is not designed to sit quietly and patient for 3 hours because one person decided he wanted to tank with a bow today. If you wanna rp in dung, say it in special guilds. I don't come and ruin roleplaying, so roleplayers pls don't come ruin dungeon runs either. It works both ways!
Tanking with a bow is feasible. Volley keeps up crusher pretty well if you manage your toon appropriately and it gives you more flexibility in placement.
*If the bow is on your backbar and you've got S&B on the front bar.
Otherwise, no it's not feasible.
Problem there is you have no magicka heavy attack.
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precambria✭✭✭✭✭Roleplay is the real endgame, consequently most of the RPers I have seen are also really good players.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »furiouslog wrote: »OrphanHelgen wrote: »You did good. Made the group tool function so you can only put one role. People still don't give a ***. 3'rd times now whipefest because the tank use bow instead of a taunt. I think this is a legit reason for ragequit and remove the penalty after quitting for group tool because of this would be nice too. Please permaban those who are registered as their role without doing it, specially in a vet dlc dung when they are cp 810. They clearly have bought their account or nothing to do in an online game besides offline mode and housing ty. A dungeon with rng drops and bis gear, is not designed to sit quietly and patient for 3 hours because one person decided he wanted to tank with a bow today. If you wanna rp in dung, say it in special guilds. I don't come and ruin roleplaying, so roleplayers pls don't come ruin dungeon runs either. It works both ways!
Tanking with a bow is feasible. Volley keeps up crusher pretty well if you manage your toon appropriately and it gives you more flexibility in placement.
*If the bow is on your backbar and you've got S&B on the front bar.
Otherwise, no it's not feasible.
Problem there is you have no magicka heavy attack.
Their is many tank that dont use staff and are viable
For vet dungeons, a staff is really not that important. Even more so with a random group via the activity finder as the dps is often low in those groups so the benefits that can come with runny staves back bar are minimized.
Back when I used to queue solo as a tank I found it really pushed me to manage my resources well as things died very slowly.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Salvas_Aren wrote: »Some people who have full tanks prefer to faketank because they are in fear of fake DDs.
Having DDs who do 6k DPS together means they need faketanks to get carried.
True but most of us just avoid the GF altogether and join or form groups from our guilds. We tend to get much better groups than what we the activity finder would provide us.
This is the safest and smartest way to go for anyone at any skill level. If you are learning your guildmates will be more understanding. If you are at a decent skill level you are likely in a guild with decent players making the run smoother. It just makes sense.
It all depends on time you have right now. If you want to grind achievements or did all pledges, maybe on several toons it is worthwhile gathering a group for it for 2-3 hours. But for quick run guild/friends group is always a slow start... people need to re-log, to take pledges, then they'll remember they have inferior toons without undaunted leveled and switch to them with trash gear, while giggling that it is PVP toon as an excuse for low dps.
While if you just have half hour for some quick keys.. pugging on tank is a good option.
You are doing something wrong if grouping is a slow start. Maybe it is your choice of guild as there are a lot of guilds full of members that are poorly managed to the point most of those members do nothing with that guild.
Regardless of the reasons you have problems forming a group fast the OP specifically states they spent 3 hours in the mess they describe. What you are saying makes no sense in the context of this thread.
I'm happy for you if you have guilds where players are just sitting idle on proper tank/dps toons with pledges taken and waiting for somebody to call them to jump start to dungeon. Majority of players are actually doing something like quests/PVP/housing/crafting whatever and it takes time to switch toons, to take pledges, to finish quest what they are doing now, to finish BG/log off from Cyro etc..
It is not hard or impossible to gather good group, but it takes some time and effort. While queuing on tank for pledges was instant when I was pugging.
What I'm saying make sense because you said that PUGs are bad way to do dungeons. I disagree, pugs are completely viable and a lot if not majority of players use group finder or at least zone chat. If you don't play with randoms it doesn't mean that nobody plays with them.2 -
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✭✭✭How about Solo mode instead? Fake tanks and fake heals can be kicked as soon as you discover they are fake, and they can grind out their XP in solo mode or go back to watching Netflix while parked at a dolmen.
And maybe completely remove the Group Finder, which they can't seem to put together properly anyway. If people can put together a full team for a Trial, surely they can find 3 other people to do a 4-person dungeon and they can go 4 DDs there if they want.
Why someone would bother faking a role and going into a dungeon when they are already at CP cap boggles the mind though. Farming Undaunted Keys with all their alts? Trying for 2 keys per run doing HM?OrphanHelgen wrote: »Please permaban those who are registered as their role without doing it, specially in a vet dlc dung when they are cp 810.Edited by Dusk_Coven on March 4, 2020 4:41PM0 -
Lintashi✭✭✭✭✭Roleplaying is walking instead of running in cities, acting if you are citizen of the city. That was just rude behaviour from someone who wanted to bypass the queue. It happens all the time. I would solve this issue, by adding buffs and debuffs, according to your chosen role. Want to be heal- you get buff to heal, debuff to dps and health, dps get debuff to health and heal, so they actually need healers and tanks, but get buff to dps. Tank get buff to health, but debuff to dps and selfheals. This way, people can only fulfill their chosen role, every role is equally needed. Now, I hear things like ' we do not need tank here' or "3dd and tank only" way too often. It works sometimes, yes, but with pugs, you cannot hope for this strategy to work.3 -
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✭✭✭✭Tanking is the role I trust other players the least. I mean a bad DD or even an useless healer you can prop up even in some vet DLC dungeons, but if the tank messes up ... That's the reason I make a tanking build for every character I develop. When pledges time comes - which is the final step of character development, parallel with PvP training - I can go in confidently and clear them on vet.
I don't set my expectations too high when running from randoms, either from group finder or trade guilds - those are the only one I've got at the moment. If the group doesn't work, I can give them hints, and if it doesn't work even after that - most times due to sub-par DPS - I leave since my queue time is just a few minutes at most.
I'm actually glad I'm at my 12th and final character, facing pledges confidently in about 4 weeks. Here comes the Magicka Necromancer whatever-you-want-it-to-be ...Edited by Asardes on March 4, 2020 4:48PMBeta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Salvas_Aren wrote: »Some people who have full tanks prefer to faketank because they are in fear of fake DDs.
Having DDs who do 6k DPS together means they need faketanks to get carried.
True but most of us just avoid the GF altogether and join or form groups from our guilds. We tend to get much better groups than what we the activity finder would provide us.
This is the safest and smartest way to go for anyone at any skill level. If you are learning your guildmates will be more understanding. If you are at a decent skill level you are likely in a guild with decent players making the run smoother. It just makes sense.
It all depends on time you have right now. If you want to grind achievements or did all pledges, maybe on several toons it is worthwhile gathering a group for it for 2-3 hours. But for quick run guild/friends group is always a slow start... people need to re-log, to take pledges, then they'll remember they have inferior toons without undaunted leveled and switch to them with trash gear, while giggling that it is PVP toon as an excuse for low dps.
While if you just have half hour for some quick keys.. pugging on tank is a good option.
You are doing something wrong if grouping is a slow start. Maybe it is your choice of guild as there are a lot of guilds full of members that are poorly managed to the point most of those members do nothing with that guild.
Regardless of the reasons you have problems forming a group fast the OP specifically states they spent 3 hours in the mess they describe. What you are saying makes no sense in the context of this thread.
I'm happy for you if you have guilds where players are just sitting idle on proper tank/dps toons with pledges taken and waiting for somebody to call them to jump start to dungeon. Majority of players are actually doing something like quests/PVP/housing/crafting whatever and it takes time to switch toons, to take pledges, to finish quest what they are doing
LOL. No one sits idle. They are guilds that have people actually interested in doing stuff. Something found in properly managed guilds.
If your guild is coming up short on people actually interested in doing group content find a better guild. Most of what you say your guild member prefer to do are solo and can wait. If they are that into their crafting/housing/solo questing then you are in the wrong guild for doing group content. It sounds like a very boring guild.
Regardless, it seems silly that you suggest that sometimes you do not have time to form a group in the context of the OP spending 3 hours with activity finder groups. At what point do you think it makes sense to form one's own group when in a hurry?
I tend to follow the logic and hit that mark well before 3 hours but to each our own.Edited by idk on March 4, 2020 4:59PM0 -
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✭✭Veinblood1965 wrote: »Well to give the OP credit it's a little better than seeing another "kick fank tank" subject line thread. Even if it's not accurate.
How is smearing roleplayers remotely better than seeing another kick fake tank thread?
Hmm... I get to put another dime in my jar, perhaps...
It adds a little variety. Let's be honest, we would all /yawn at another "fake tank" thread and there is some humor in the mental gymnastics applied here.Edited by Agenericname on March 4, 2020 6:45PM0 -
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✭✭Roleplayers are more actual players than non roleplayers. Imagine playing an mmoRPG and not roleplaying. Absurd.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.5 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Roleplayers are more actual players than non roleplayers. Imagine playing an mmoRPG and not roleplaying. Absurd.
True. But I think OP is just trying to be condescending by suggesting ineffective players are part of the RP community. interestingly I have known true RP players who are top raiders with top leaderboard scores and early clears of new content. So it is really a humorous OP has said such things. LOL8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Salvas_Aren wrote: »Some people who have full tanks prefer to faketank because they are in fear of fake DDs.
Having DDs who do 6k DPS together means they need faketanks to get carried.
True but most of us just avoid the GF altogether and join or form groups from our guilds. We tend to get much better groups than what we the activity finder would provide us.
This is the safest and smartest way to go for anyone at any skill level. If you are learning your guildmates will be more understanding. If you are at a decent skill level you are likely in a guild with decent players making the run smoother. It just makes sense.
It all depends on time you have right now. If you want to grind achievements or did all pledges, maybe on several toons it is worthwhile gathering a group for it for 2-3 hours. But for quick run guild/friends group is always a slow start... people need to re-log, to take pledges, then they'll remember they have inferior toons without undaunted leveled and switch to them with trash gear, while giggling that it is PVP toon as an excuse for low dps.
While if you just have half hour for some quick keys.. pugging on tank is a good option.
You are doing something wrong if grouping is a slow start. Maybe it is your choice of guild as there are a lot of guilds full of members that are poorly managed to the point most of those members do nothing with that guild.
Regardless of the reasons you have problems forming a group fast the OP specifically states they spent 3 hours in the mess they describe. What you are saying makes no sense in the context of this thread.
I'm happy for you if you have guilds where players are just sitting idle on proper tank/dps toons with pledges taken and waiting for somebody to call them to jump start to dungeon. Majority of players are actually doing something like quests/PVP/housing/crafting whatever and it takes time to switch toons, to take pledges, to finish quest what they are doing
LOL. No one sits idle. They are guilds that have people actually interested in doing stuff. Something found in properly managed guilds.
If your guild is coming up short on people actually interested in doing group content find a better guild. Most of what you say your guild member prefer to do are solo and can wait. If they are that into their crafting/housing/solo questing then you are in the wrong guild for doing group content. It sounds like a very boring guild.
Regardless, it seems silly that you suggest that sometimes you do not have time to form a group in the context of the OP spending 3 hours with activity finder groups. At what point do you think it makes sense to form one's own group when in a hurry?
I tend to follow the logic and hit that mark well before 3 hours but to each our own.
Really, you are just speaking against objective reality now
Reality is that ton of players are using pugs, not only for pledges but also for achievement runs and sometimes for vet trials. You may call it a masochism to do no-death runs with pugs, but people are doing this, so you can't deny that fakes are a problem.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Salvas_Aren wrote: »Some people who have full tanks prefer to faketank because they are in fear of fake DDs.
Having DDs who do 6k DPS together means they need faketanks to get carried.
True but most of us just avoid the GF altogether and join or form groups from our guilds. We tend to get much better groups than what we the activity finder would provide us.
This is the safest and smartest way to go for anyone at any skill level. If you are learning your guildmates will be more understanding. If you are at a decent skill level you are likely in a guild with decent players making the run smoother. It just makes sense.
It all depends on time you have right now. If you want to grind achievements or did all pledges, maybe on several toons it is worthwhile gathering a group for it for 2-3 hours. But for quick run guild/friends group is always a slow start... people need to re-log, to take pledges, then they'll remember they have inferior toons without undaunted leveled and switch to them with trash gear, while giggling that it is PVP toon as an excuse for low dps.
While if you just have half hour for some quick keys.. pugging on tank is a good option.
You are doing something wrong if grouping is a slow start. Maybe it is your choice of guild as there are a lot of guilds full of members that are poorly managed to the point most of those members do nothing with that guild.
Regardless of the reasons you have problems forming a group fast the OP specifically states they spent 3 hours in the mess they describe. What you are saying makes no sense in the context of this thread.
I'm happy for you if you have guilds where players are just sitting idle on proper tank/dps toons with pledges taken and waiting for somebody to call them to jump start to dungeon. Majority of players are actually doing something like quests/PVP/housing/crafting whatever and it takes time to switch toons, to take pledges, to finish quest what they are doing
LOL. No one sits idle. They are guilds that have people actually interested in doing stuff. Something found in properly managed guilds.
If your guild is coming up short on people actually interested in doing group content find a better guild. Most of what you say your guild member prefer to do are solo and can wait. If they are that into their crafting/housing/solo questing then you are in the wrong guild for doing group content. It sounds like a very boring guild.
Regardless, it seems silly that you suggest that sometimes you do not have time to form a group in the context of the OP spending 3 hours with activity finder groups. At what point do you think it makes sense to form one's own group when in a hurry?
I tend to follow the logic and hit that mark well before 3 hours but to each our own.
Really, you are just speaking against objective reality now
Reality is that ton of players are using pugs, not only for pledges but also for achievement runs and sometimes for vet trials. You may call it a masochism to do no-death runs with pugs, but people are doing this, so you can't deny that fakes are a problem.
Objective reality. LOL
Saying I am arguing against objective reality and trying to put words into my mouth really speaks volumes. Anyone who looks through this thread can easily see I have not spoken of no-death runs or claimed there are no fake. So yea, lets speak of reality in the game and not make stuff up like this.
Ironically though, forming ones own group, as I have been saying, goes a long way to avoiding fakes. It realy is that simple.
Edited to simplify the post.Edited by idk on March 4, 2020 10:50PM1 -
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✭People get punished for getting placed in a group with fake tanks, and from what i've seen, a lot of people think it's "toxic" and "elitist" to kick anyone for any reason, so the kick vote on the fake role fails at times. There are also people who are friends with the fake role so of course the kick vote will fail there as well. You can hardly get people to kick you to spare you from the timer either. All they need to do is get rid of the 15-minute penalty timer so as soon as it's apparent that the "tank" is just running around spamming snipe with 13K health, we can leave and not have our time completely wasted.Xbox NA healer main
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✭✭Roleplayers are more actual players than non roleplayers. Imagine playing an mmoRPG and not roleplaying. Absurd.
True. But I think OP is just trying to be condescending by suggesting ineffective players are part of the RP community. interestingly I have known true RP players who are top raiders with top leaderboard scores and early clears of new content. So it is really a humorous OP has said such things. LOL
^This. It's pretty hilarious that they think RPers can't actually play the game when a lot of us actually do end-game content efficiently. They say they don't have anything against RPers and then proceed to demean us simply because they don't want to admit that it's solely a PvE problem that's more simply solved by forming their own group to clear harder content. But with that kind of mentality, I understand their need of the group finder.4 -
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✭Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »People get punished for getting placed in a group with fake tanks, and from what i've seen, a lot of people think it's "toxic" and "elitist" to kick anyone for any reason, so the kick vote on the fake role fails at times. There are also people who are friends with the fake role so of course the kick vote will fail there as well. You can hardly get people to kick you to spare you from the timer either. All they need to do is get rid of the 15-minute penalty timer so as soon as it's apparent that the "tank" is just running around spamming snipe with 13K health, we can leave and not have our time completely wasted.
Imo in cases where they pick healer or tank and are DD should not be a kick but a freaking ban on using group finder for a week. Don't pick a roll you won't fill.IGN: Ki'rah
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Freddycruz89✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »That has nothing to do with roleplaying...
I can't find another reason why someone would tank with a bow tho
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✭I think Orphan is just P/O because he's come back to a broken game with little/less experienced players using the random dungeon tool these days.
A lot of people don't do daily undaunted dungeons any more, about a year a go I gave asking people in guild as many just said 'meh'....
Pre-made or post disappointment is the rule pretty much.
There I was thinking someone was in the dungeon like : *Picks up rock from ground, throws at boss*0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭everyone should have a chance to join a group to play and have fun without being insulted and or singled out just cause they are different.
there are out of shape people at the basketball court that like to snak on Doritos and sticks of butter while they wait for a group to join and play ball, but they even though often get chosen to join groups. doesn't matter because eventually they DO find a group and they play, and others that think like and play like they do.
just because they use a bow or they use skills or mechanics differently than you do is Zero reason to separate people from the area and to insult them and make them feel bad just cause different than you.
they still play good and even win.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »That has nothing to do with roleplaying...
I can't find another reason why someone would tank with a bow tho
You don’t know how Crusher enchant/ tanking works. Godslayer with warden tank using bow back bar.
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