Black desert online starts with cross play

bulcke10 · February 2020

Hi
In a couple of weeks black desert online starts with cross play for console....

Maybe it will be a good idea to the game if they do the same for eso? Or in a nearby future...

Naftal · February 2020

Even if Sony's and Microsoft's cert process didn't either mean that PC will also receive everything slowly and bug fixes take longer, I would not want to play with or against console players complaining about addons etc.

idk · February 2020

^^^ Console cross-play with PC would be a horrid idea. PC has an advantage that would to console players being pawned. That is a really bad business idea to bring that about.

DelosTheta · February 2020

When you get to a high enough level, isn’t black desert just a big PVP shank-a-thon?

mocap · February 2020

PC EU not always can' handle amount of "players dropping like flies" (c), especially during events. And you suggest to add cross platform players...

Beardimus · February 2020

bulcke10 wrote: »

Hi
In a couple of weeks black desert online starts with cross play for console....

Maybe it will be a good idea to the game if they do the same for eso? Or in a nearby future...

No thank you. Absolutely not.

Watchdog · February 2020

bulcke10 wrote: »

Hi
In a couple of weeks black desert online starts with cross play for console....

Maybe it will be a good idea to the game if they do the same for eso? Or in a nearby future...

It won't be a good idea until consoles get the same updates at the same time and can use the same add-ons as us PC players.

Until then - no, thanks.

daemonios · February 2020

Cross play means everyone is playing on the same server. It means merging servers that are already buckling under the load. It means patches need to wait for the last platform to give them the green light. Not going to happen except maybe when ESO is in its last throes, as a way to fake high population numbers.

Van_Winkle · February 2020

If this happens, the game will need to be renamed to "The Elder Scrolls Tactics".

Dark_Lord_Kuro · February 2020

Not against ps4 and xbox crossplay but if pc want to be part of the fun the will need to say byebye to their precious addon and learn to play by themself
Also it will stop them of getting update early
Only after that pc can enter the party

Hallothiel · February 2020

No.

BackStabeth · February 2020

When I read the hell it sounds like PS4 players have to suffer, and I suspect to some extent all console players have to suffer, I don't think console cross play with PC would be fair. I don't PvP but I can imagine the issues that would cause with PvP alone.

Maybe there is a place to cross play only consoles, I'm not sure about that even.

PvP is already toxic, can you imagine how unfair and toxic it would be to have PC players cross play with console players?

Can you imagine what it would do to the different respective economies?

Can you imagine how many PC players would leave, because ESO removed the ability to use add-ons so that it would be more fair to console players?

I seriously doubt we will ever see cross platform play in ESO. There are certain advantages and disadvantages to using either PC or consoles. Balancing the differences would be almost impossible.

JanTanhide · February 2020

Not a good idea for ESO. Reason is simple: Consoles have a severe disadvantage to PC's with no Addon's and running a little under powered box to push the game.

PC's running ESO are usually much stronger than the Console boxes so Console players will be screaming even more on the Forums at the imbalance in game play.

ArgoCye · February 2020

Enjoy the grind

Danikat · February 2020

I'd like cross-play, just because my husband and I don't have the space to set up a second PC, the budget to buy one or any real need to have one but we do have a PS4 so with cross-play we could play ESO together. But I think there's a lot of issues and complications which make it unlikely to happen.

If this other game is releasing with cross-play then presumably it was planned from the start and everything has been designed from the begining to accomodate cross-play. I doubt it would be any where near as easy to impliment in an existing game. (Kind of like when ESO was released and lots of other MMOs players started asking for mega-servers.)

Watchdog wrote: »

bulcke10 wrote: »

Hi
In a couple of weeks black desert online starts with cross play for console....

Maybe it will be a good idea to the game if they do the same for eso? Or in a nearby future...

It won't be a good idea until consoles get the same updates at the same time and can use the same add-ons as us PC players.

Until then - no, thanks.

Updates at the same time are relatively simple to do - hold back the PC release until the console version has gone through the certification process, instead of releasing it as soon as it's ready and the console version is sent off for certification.

Addons could be an issue though.

Solariken · February 2020

Cross play would be great, as a PC player I'd even be willing to have all add-ons disabled in PvP zones to make this happen.

AlnilamE · February 2020

From reading the news, BDO's cross-platform is only for XBox and Playstation. Which makes sense because they are published by Pearl Abyss, whereas the PC version in EU/NA is published by Kakao Games.

Merging consoles with PC in their case would probably lead to all the console players leaving after being rolled over by the PC players.

dazee · February 2020

Van_Winkle wrote: »

If this happens, the game will need to be renamed to "The Elder Scrolls Tactics".

Turn based BG would at least be more fun than current BG!

TequilaFire · February 2020

Lol, all the PC players worried about getting beat by console plebs! lmao
I play both, PC players aren't any better than console players.

Elsonso · February 2020

idk wrote: »

^^^ Console cross-play with PC would be a horrid idea. PC has an advantage that would to console players being pawned. That is a really bad business idea to bring that about.

Agreed. ZOS has to introduce the whole add-on thing for consoles, and that is a can of worms that has no bottom. Great, if you love worms.

TequilaFire · February 2020

Addons advantage is the biggest myth of all.
On console you instinctively learn when to cleanse, etc.
By the time your add on tells you to do something it is already almost too late.
The main advantage of addons is information and convenience.
That is unless you are saying they give you some sort of exploit advantage. lol

AgaTheGreat · February 2020

No

StormeReigns · February 2020

TequilaFire wrote: »

Lol, all the PC players worried about getting beat by console plebs! lmao
I play both, PC players aren't any better than console players.

Well, given when i am on my PS4 for eso, i am at 28-35fps and 138-215 latency. On PC 58-60fps and 90 to 100 latency (125 being higest spike for me atm). So, consoles, if they allowed cross server just by that alone between the two equally skilled players, console would be at the disadvantage.

Addons (which sony and xbox will refuse to allow-zos could break addons and add many of the key ones commonly used to the ui though), imput lag, server lag, limited chat; consoles though getting more PC like still are not PCs and can only do so much, especially if more is happening at once.

Plus no one is indicating they are afraid of losing to console players, just acknowledging the limitations and struggles they would have to endure if ever paired with PC.

Elsonso · February 2020

TequilaFire wrote: »

Addons advantage is the biggest myth of all.

You can say that all day long, and it might even be true, but it won't matter.

TequilaFire · February 2020

The only reason not to is we would all have to play on the same server and they can't handle the current loads as it is.
If you are getting different latency on different devices then something needs tweaked in your LAN balance.
FPS doesn't affect my skills unless it gets ridiculous, but if working normal not at all.

iiYuki · February 2020

Maybe PSN and Xbox but not with PC, I really dont want to see everyone whinging about how PC has too many advantages. "Nerf PC", "remove addons". It'll be like Miat's all over again.

Reverb · February 2020

Cross play between the console platforms would be fine, and maybe even good. Both Zeni and the player base would crumble if console and pc realms were merged however. Either console players would throw fits about pc player’s unfair advantage amd leave the game in droves, or PC players experience and QoL would be stripped down to cater to consoles, and we would walk away from Zenimax and never look back.

Either way would cripple zeni’s ability to support such an environment, and would give them such a black eye in the industry that is would kill their viability as a AAA game studio.

Recon4thCav · February 2020

ZoS won't merge servers till the player base decreases. No need to merge servers if there is a strong enough player base.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · February 2020

No thanks. I switched to PC to get away from the Xbox community.

Sorry, but I had too many guys who were supposed friends demanding more than top-tier 0.1% DPS the moment I hit CP160 and only had crafted gear available. I wish I were joking...

No such demands were made by my real friends on PC. Instead, they helped me learn. And when DPS failed on my part, instead of telling me to quit, they suggested I try healing or tanking.

I'm now quite a good tank.

BaiterOfZergs · February 2020

Why are people talking about PC when the op mentioned console cross play and possibly doing the same for eso ?

Aliyavana · February 2020

no, I don't want to play with console players