Black desert online starts with cross play
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TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭JanTanhide wrote: »Not a good idea for ESO. Reason is simple: Consoles have a severe disadvantage to PC's with no Addon's and running a little under powered box to push the game.
PC's running ESO are usually much stronger than the Console boxes so Console players will be screaming even more on the Forums at the imbalance in game play.
The game runs like crap anyway.... See cyro. Doesnt matter if u have a potato or a super computer.2 -
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✭✭^^^ Console cross-play with PC would be a horrid idea. PC has an advantage that would to console players being pawned. That is a really bad business idea to bring that about.
Agreed. Unless Sony and MS allow add on support, as well as having DLC's and Chapters drop at the same time for all platforms, among other things, it would not go well imo.0 -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭i think most people responding on this thread either missed the OP's point or willfully ignored it so they could disagree for the sake of disagreeing...
come on guys. no one likes a contrarian. i think the op was suggesting cross play exclusively between consoles
(even disregarding that i am all for including PC in crossplay and the argument that 'but pc has such an advantage!!!!' is such a silly one because eso is by no means a hyper competitive environment to begin with and the option for seperate leaderboards for the scoring systems ALREADY EXISTS IN GAME)Edited by Browiseth on February 23, 2020 10:10PMskingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭i think most people responding on this thread either missed the OP's point or willfully ignored it so they could disagree for the sake of disagreeing...
come on guys. no one likes a contrarian. i think the op was suggesting cross play exclusively between consoles
(even disregarding that i am all for including PC in crossplay and the argument that 'but pc has such an advantage!!!!' is such a silly one because eso is by no means a hyper competitive environment to begin with and the option for seperate leaderboards for the scoring systems ALREADY EXISTS IN GAME)
Whoops. I had to post quickly as im at work. You're correct.Edited by D0PAMINE on February 23, 2020 10:39PM1 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oddly enough, who is the say that the two consoles could not play together, if Microsoft and Sony agreed? For all we know, they could be running on the same "megaserver", split into two platforms, and are kept apart by little more than a software setting and some license agreements.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Addons advantage is the biggest myth of all.
On console you instinctively learn when to cleanse, etc.
By the time your add on tells you to do something it is already almost too late.
The main advantage of addons is information and convenience.
That is unless you are saying they give you some sort of exploit advantage. lol
I am sure that console players figure things out. It would be silly to think otherwise. However, addons still offer an advantage and the farther a player is from a top player the greater the addon advantage will be. Consoles will be pawned.
Even if the addon advantage was truly a myth we would still see console player blame their deaths on PC players use of add-ons. Top raiding groups use addons for trials which basically means most console players would not stand a chance to get into a top raiding group. There is a reason why top talent has been leaving consoles for PC over the years.1 -
TheImperfect✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't like the idea and I wasn't keen on Black Desert Online. Each to their own but I think it's for a very different type of player.0 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭It would be complete chaos pvp already unplayable now during events I want to say worse but since that last event it just stayed awful. Not to forget about the arguments it would cause between console players and pc there really shouldn’t be a problem but there’s just to many idiots in the world ones that say pc players are better 🤤 comes across as very stupid to me tbh. I play mw it’s cross platform and I regularly destroy the supposedly godlike pc players lmao 😂0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah I guess your right, PC's Cheat Engine and macro addons would give you the advantage. /s2 -
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✭✭✭✭DelosTheta wrote: »When you get to a high enough level, isn’t black desert just a big PVP shank-a-thon?
No, it's more like whoever can land a CC first wins. Red Battlefield is where it's at when it comes to PvP though.0 -
RD065✭✭✭✭Van_Winkle wrote: »If this happens, the game will need to be renamed to "The Elder Scrolls Tactics".
Turn based BG would at least be more fun than current BG!
Turn based would be awesome.0 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭I like the idea, PC elitists just don't wanna get Xed by people on far less powerful systems. It would shatter the elite PC theories. Let's get some competition going on ESO, tired of fighting the same people every dayEdited by ZarkingFrued on February 24, 2020 1:36AM4 -
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✭I rather have cross save.-Immortal Redeemer-
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If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling....1 -
Ohtimbar✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is a terrible place to ask such things, as the litany of goofy replies can attest. The pc fetishism here is both predictably sad and darkly humorous. For my part, I’m multiplat and would welcome it. It won’t happen, of course, but I wish it would.forever stuck in combat1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »I like the idea, PC elitists just don't wanna get Xed by people on far less powerful systems. It would shatter the elite PC theories. Let's get some competition going on ESO, tired of fighting the same people every day
An A for humor that somehow the choice of platform has to do with the skill level of the player. Especially since the past few years ESO has seen a strong migration of top talent leave consoles for PC. It really has nothing to do with the platform we choose to play on but that PC has access to addons.1 -
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✭Cross play of console is fine. No PC tho...Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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BackStabeth✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Lol, all the PC players worried about getting beat by console plebs! lmao
I play both, PC players aren't any better than console players.
PC Players wouldn't have to be better, they wouldn't even have to be as good. PC Players would have an unfair advantage.
And I don't think console players are plebs either, I play strictly PC although I have a console. I play PC because of performance and add-ons. Console players unfortunately are treated like a stepchild by ZoS.
I don't think it would be an idea, not because it would negatively affect PC players on the contrary, specially in PvP it woudl benefit PC players, but because it would negatively affect console players.0 -
sly007✭✭✭✭Let's see how next gen consoles run the game. The main issues would be frame rate and load times. Then add ons would be another beast all together. I would not want ZOS to limit pc addons to make console play on an even ground.0 -
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✭I'm all for crossplay between consoles, and really hope they implement it at some point. PC would just whine about any changes made to make it work, so they can just keep to themselves as they are so adamantly expressing in this thread.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭i am getting a bit annoyed about the constant excuses from zos...they cant do what is standard for most other mmos despite them being one of the most successful out there
- they cant get their servers to run properly
- they cant have ui scaling (anymore)
- they cant implement crossplay
all we constantly get from zos is can't won't doesn't work causes problem
I think they really have to step up their game, get on the same level as everyone else and stop with the excuses - but i think this seems to be a general bethesda problem3 -
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✭✭Cross save would be more beneficial to the player base than cross play would be.0
