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[Murkmire Event] Strongbox grinding - what's the drop rate like?
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FierceSam✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Buying Murkmire - 1,400 Crowns
Buying 1 fragment (5 event tickets @ 250 Crowns each) - 1,250 Crowns
Buying 1 memento or pet - 8,750 Crowns
I can see ZOS making substantially more money from selling fragments than from selling the actual DLC.
Clearly a cause for a ‘celebration’11 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »After spending a few hours trying my luck at RNGesus I think for the rest of the week Im simply going to spend the five minutes gathering the guaranteed strongbox and the event tickets and bounce.
I saw absolutely nothing of the double resources they claimed would be available either now that Im thinking about it.
I can confirm double resources from what I got (PC-NA): 6 ancestor silk from one node, 3 corn flower, 2-3 dragonthorn, etc.
These are not very noticeable in small quantities, but I suppose they’d add up if you farmed for a while.1 -
Smaxx✭✭✭✭✭Already expected this somewhat. Not wasting my time either. The very first event where I won't try to complete/get stuff from the Impresario. Screw it. I'll get the berries I'm still missing and be done with it.
Too bad Event Tickets went from something fun to collect to becoming a second tier crown shop currency so fast. The trick here is really just to abstract/strip away the real money value/connection you're investing for stuff away.
It's "just 7 Fragments", "just 5 Tickets" each and "just 250 Crowns each", but it adds up, or should I better say it multiplies up?
And I'm definitely not one "cheaping out" here or wanting everything for free. My sub has been up and running since original PC release. Never had an issue with that, even when I lacked motivation or time to play, but these new "marketing schemes" are really stretching it, even if it's luckily just some random cosmetic junk.17 -
Neoealth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Got my first random box today while in a delve from a random trash mob. The drop rate seems pretty terrible. I've been farming tons of crafting nodes as well because of the double rewards and not had a single box in them. The drop rate in the Elsweyr event seemed way higher.0 -
redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭+- 5 hours of gameplay, 6 different chars used (I was doing mainly daily quests to try to get motif pages). I got tickets n a box from a delve's trash mob. Got the 2nd boxes within a couple of minutes with the same char, and after that I got nothing else.
2 boxes: one had a frag the other only trash in it...
With all the chars I picked up a lot of resource nodes, treasure chests, thieves troves, etc... Nothing more...
So, drop ratio is... Frustrating, at the very least."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2360 CP
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Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have been farming mobs for 6 hours now... No Strongbox (got only 1 that is guaranteed).
6 hours and 500+ mobs looted. I am starting to think that maybe there is a cool-down / timer on additional Strongboxes ?
Yesterday got one additional after 2 hours of farming and another one after 1 hour...0 -
Number_51✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »I have been farming mobs for 6 hours now... No Strongbox (got only 1 that is guaranteed).
6 hours and 500+ mobs looted. I am starting to think that maybe there is a cool-down / timer on additional Strongboxes ?
Yesterday got one additional after 2 hours of farming and another one after 1 hour...
No cooldown, just super low drop chance. On one of my accounts I got two boxes (1 guaranteed, 1 extra) both from Tsofeer Cavern within 5-10 minutes of eachother.0 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Buying Murkmire - 1,400 Crowns
Buying 1 fragment (5 event tickets @ 250 Crowns each) - 1,250 Crowns
Buying 1 memento or pet - 8,750 Crowns
I can see ZOS making substantially more money from selling fragments than from selling the actual DLC.
Clearly a cause for a ‘celebration’
A bunch of us got Murkmire as a login giveaway the month after it came out, so that's -1400 crowns.
And I've gotten two fragments so far out of two daily "guaranteed" boxes.
Once I buy a single feather (I needed 5 tickets with leftovers from New Life), I don't have anything else to spend my daily tickets on, so I can buy a bunch of parts that way.
And neither of the things (pet or memento) are worth crowns to start with, so I can't see anyone spending "8750" on them.
Perhaps some people with an excess of ESO+ Crowns, or someone with millions of gold buying Crowns from those people, might buy tickets for them, but that's not really a lot of 'profit' from it, since the ESO+ crowns are just sitting there already.Edited by Kiralyn2000 on February 21, 2020 3:53PM1 -
Dalsinthus✭✭✭✭✭
✭The trend for recent events this year is not encouraging. Low drop rates and many items, making it difficult to obtain collectibles without intense grinding. Now we have item fragments that are bound so no buying or trading with gold and guild traders is out. All in all it is souring me on ESO events.11 -
Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dalsinthus wrote: »The trend for recent events this year is not encouraging. Low drop rates and many items, making it difficult to obtain collectibles without intense grinding. Now we have item fragments that are bound so no buying or trading with gold and guild traders is out. All in all it is souring me on ESO events.
I know. I wasn't able to finish my Deep Winter collection from the Winter event in spite of spamming those dailies every day (too poor to buy the parts).
I also wasn't able to get many parts for the Cyrodiil event either. It seems like there's a growing trend to make these events more and more complicated and ensure that players have a more difficult time getting all the pieces of any event reward.2 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I also wasn't able to get many parts for the Cyrodiil event either. It seems like there's a growing trend to make these events more and more complicated and ensure that players have a more difficult time getting all the pieces of any event reward.
I wouldn't say complicated, but more time consuming.
Which wouldn't be so bad if (1) there's a clear way to get the parts you need for reasonable time/effort and (2) if the event is guaranteed to repeat so there isn't scarcity-mentality sense of urgency to get it all done the first time around.
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Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »I also wasn't able to get many parts for the Cyrodiil event either. It seems like there's a growing trend to make these events more and more complicated and ensure that players have a more difficult time getting all the pieces of any event reward.
I wouldn't say complicated, but more time consuming.
Which wouldn't be so bad if (1) there's a clear way to get the parts you need for reasonable time/effort and (2) if the event is guaranteed to repeat so there isn't scarcity-mentality sense of urgency to get it all done the first time around.
That's true. I think, indeed, that the real reason I couldn't get all the Cyrodiil parts for the motif is just that they didn't like to drop for me, and I was tired of hunting boss after boss in the sewers and City for no real reward. The effort I was required to put in did not make the rewards worth it, so I just hunted the regular event drop boxes instead for transmute crystals.1 -
mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭Question is, do they care? Or are they just saying its RNG cause its working for other people?1 -
Pyr0xyrecuprotite✭✭✭✭✭I'm annoyed at the low strongbox drop rate - was questing for four hours on PC/EU, got my first strongbox on about the 10th mob (AFTER doing the delve daily), but nothing after that. Clearly, although almost ANYTHING in zone is supposed to be able to drop a strongbox, the chance is either ridiculously low or ZoS didn't code things correctly. I have come to expect that a bit of grinding during events is normal, but this is crazy.
I'm also annoyed that of the three strongboxes so far (two yesterday in 3 hours), only ONE had a collectible fragment.
This means that the bulk of collectible parts are going to have to be bought with event tickets, and I'm only going to be able to get ONE of the two collectibles.
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James-Wayne✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've stop caring about these grindy events for months. My time is better spent doing other things.PERTH, AUSTRALIA | PC | NA | @Aussie-Elders
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furiouslog✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Report: I farmed boxes for 6 hours, today, and two hours yesterday. Including the "guaranteed" drops, I got 6 boxes total, three of which actually had a fragment in it. The guy I was with got no boxes. Yes, we looted everything.
I can take the low drop rate for boxes, but the RNG on the fragments on top of that seriously sucks. What the hell, ZOS? It's just not worth it.3 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭furiouslog wrote: »I can take the low drop rate for boxes, but the RNG on the fragments on top of that seriously sucks. What the hell, ZOS? It's just not worth it.
I think that's why they gave us 3 tickets per day. If the plan is for us to spend the tickets on fragments, maybe they want to focus on that instead of "small chance" of additional strongboxes.
Who writes their ad copy? Can they research their demographic a bit better maybe?Edited by Dusk_Coven on February 22, 2020 7:50AM0 -
Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
✭Three days. Three boxes.
No frags for either pet or memento.
I feel a little bad for anyone who wants both AND the Indrik.Edited by Wolf_Eye on February 22, 2020 10:03AM5 -
iaminc✭✭✭✭Because they want you to buy tickets from the Crown store , it’s an obvious cash grab attempt by ZoS.2
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Ryath_Waylander✭✭✭✭✭
✭mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »Its [snip]. 3 hours and 1 Box for killing EVERYTHING and looting EVERYTHING. Im going to go pay some farmer for the drops I want....
[edited for profanity]
No you won't because they are fragments and hence not tradeable. Way to go ZoS. Keep sucking the fun out...2 -
Ragged_Claw✭✭✭✭✭
✭I finally got a fragment (1) but it was part of that stupid plank
'earn a pet' my backside, BUY a pet more like. PC EU & NA0 -
tim99✭✭✭✭✭Ragged_Claw wrote: »I finally got a fragment (1) but it was part of that stupid plank 'earn a pet' my backside, BUY a pet more like.
its more like... grind 2 weeks 24/7 for nothing and after that buy the pet2 -
Infixo✭✭Summary up to date. 4 strongboxes (3 + 1 extra found). 1 pet fragment, 1 memento fragment. 2 boxes with worthless items. Literally. I just got a strongbox with trophies worth of 350 gold. It was so disgusting, even looking at it. Somebody says "grinding"? I can't imagine grinding for several hours to get 350 gold (!)0
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doomette✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ran around aimlessly killing things, then finally finished up some side quests I missed before and did the vinetongue achievement, all around 5 hours (don’t judge me, I was sore from leg day 😛 ). I got one bonus strongbox from a crafting node. But I did get my first booger pet fragment, which is all I really want after the berry.
I definitely will not be doing that again, drop rates that low discourage me from even trying.
I’ll have enough tickets to get the rest of the booger fragments so at least I won’t be financially rewarding this greedy double RNG fest.0 -
Major_Lag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Here's another data point to add to the pile:
I took one of my alts to Murkmire today to level him up a bit.
Mostly just killing random trash, but also the WBs (if I got lucky with the timing), as well as picking up anything and everything that ain't nailed to the ground: resource nodes, chests, etc.
2 exp scrolls and 4+ hours of grinding later, I got exactly ONE extra box. With only worthless vendor trash in it.
As an additional "bonus", I also got lagged out and nearly disconnected a good few times, too - especially when hanging around anywhere near the WB arenas. 999+ ping, ahoy!
TL;dr: the drop rate on event boxes is flaming hot garbage.
I'm sure not gonna bother with any of this crap anymore. Log in, kill trash till I get the daily guaranteed drop, log out.1 -
DLM✭✭✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »furiouslog wrote: »I can take the low drop rate for boxes, but the RNG on the fragments on top of that seriously sucks. What the hell, ZOS? It's just not worth it.
I think that's why they gave us 3 tickets per day. If the plan is for us to spend the tickets on fragments, maybe they want to focus on that instead of "small chance" of additional strongboxes.
Who writes their ad copy? Can they research their demographic a bit better maybe?
That's 3 tickets because there are 2 feathers for the new Indrik, hence costing 20 tickets. This is the last event to get the mount.0 -
Kahnak✭✭✭✭✭Buying Murkmire - 1,400 Crowns
Buying 1 fragment (5 event tickets @ 250 Crowns each) - 1,250 Crowns
Buying 1 memento or pet - 8,750 Crowns
I can see ZOS making substantially more money from selling fragments than from selling the actual DLC.
Clearly a cause for a ‘celebration’
36 tickets for free (250 x 36) = 9000 Crowns
You must have forgotten that part. Not really making substantially more money if you're basically breaking even.
This doesn't even account for the fragments that people manage to farm every day. You can still frame it fairly while being critical of ZOS.Tombstone Reads: "Forgot to get good"2
