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SNIPE DESYNC (POST YOUR CLIPS!). FEEDBACK IS THE KEY TO A FIX

  • ZarkingFrued
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    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/dUt1cNMWMco

    Isn’t the Focused Aim resistance debuff meant to show as a golden light over you?

    Also in the first clip you can see the 3 arrows in the air before they hit.

    The second clip you can clearly see the animation of snipe happening after you've already started opening your recap. That doesn't seem to be by design lol. There's something that causes this skill in particular to not show animation on the victims screen until they're dead. I challenge people to post desyncs from other skills as well. I'll bet you will find a snipe wizz by at some point..
  • ZarkingFrued
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Never seen this glitch happen with any other skill than Snipe. Doesnt only happen during high latency either. I can tell because I have a habit of weapon swapping while riding to check for ping because I dont trust the latency meter

    Edit:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wuduqv00Fo

    around 06:45 on the second video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyC0J6zySlU

    and the last video is from 2 years ago. So many people got carried by this for so long

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smAyK2bbNo

    November 25/2017

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smAyK2bbNo

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ghLaazdXc

    Some very good examples here, thanks
  • ZarkingFrued
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    If nothing else the toxicity of this thread alone should call some attention to this issue. People get very heated because of this glitch, but everyone please try to remain respectful. I was toxic myself early on in the thread, and I don't want to see this thread derailed and closed now. Keep the clips coming and ZoS will have no choice but to spend some time looking for errors related to Snipe. I want every sniper to be able to snipe and not be told they're glitching the game for wins. Time to get this thing fixed so it stops plaguing pvp and causing problems
    Edited by ZarkingFrued on February 19, 2020 12:08AM
  • LeHarrt91
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    wanting to make the bow unable to be used as a fair damage weapon seems to be the meta of this forum.
    its unfair.
    it is weapon and playstyle prejudice.
    it is childish.
    and it's just plain wrong.

    Archery is a legitimate play style, thats not what this thread is about. I myself like play a bow build from time to time but i do not like to use Snipe due to the reasons that are being discussed here.

    And from the videos posted it seems to be Focused Aim more than Lethal Arrow, might have something to do with the increased range.
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  • brandonv516
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    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, this is far from an anti-ranged playstyle thread. I play predominantly ranged and I have a problem with the Snipe desync being exploited.

    Snipe as a skill is not an issue.
  • KillsAllElves
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    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, this is far from an anti-ranged playstyle thread. I play predominantly ranged and I have a problem with the Snipe desync being exploited.

    Snipe as a skill is not an issue.

    Youre assuming snipers are deliberately exploiting desync as if the sniper knows how to intentionally desync others, this is beyond ridiculous almost at the level as calling some one a cheater.

    This notion you stated clearly shows the OP and others dont know what health desync Is and what causes it, so theories insue..

    Calling snipers glitch exploiters or desync exploiters shows the accuser doesnt understand whats going on.

    So, wheres the feedback to "fix" health desync? None was given!
    Edited by KillsAllElves on February 19, 2020 12:56AM
  • brandonv516
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    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, this is far from an anti-ranged playstyle thread. I play predominantly ranged and I have a problem with the Snipe desync being exploited.

    Snipe as a skill is not an issue.

    Youre assuming snipers are deliberately exploiting desync as if the sniper knows how to intentionally desync others, this is beyond ridiculous almost at the level as calling some one a cheater.

    This notion you stated clearly shows the OP and others dont know what health desync Is and what causes it, so theories insue..

    Calling snipers glitch exploiters or desync exploiters shows the accuser doesnt understand whats going on.

    So, wheres the feedback to "fix" health desync? None was given!

    You're assuming that the same players that consistently repeat this exploit don't know how or what they are doing - you're probably one of the two I see doing it if you do play on Xbox NA.

    Players abusing the Snipe desync are exploiters.

    What feedback do you want me to provide on how to fix this? You assume I or other people here have the technical knowledge to fix this.
    Edited by brandonv516 on February 19, 2020 6:18AM
  • SmukkeHeks
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    On my focused aim I have a range of 53 meters. Can someone explain how you expect to hear a bow being pulled and released from 53 meters away? Especially if you are surrounded by enemies, each with their own skills and sounds of them going off?

    Snipe isn’t an issue. Stability is. Before they figure out how to be an online game, we really can’t decide if it’s broken, works as intended, if there are exploits or other issues.

    But even after, if and when, they fix the stability, even then you’ll not be able to hear a bow release from 53 meters away...
  • WildRaptorX
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    What about the radiant oppression desync. That’s a lot worse!
  • Artorias24
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    Hello there,

    .......

    General Kenobi
  • juhislihis19
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    Actually some time ago, maybe a year or so, right after a new patch Dizzy had a similar problem. You would cast Dizzy, the swing motion would get stuck behind the character, and because it was stuck you would spam Dizzy even more. And this resulted in landing 2-4 Dizzys at once.

    This was fixed quite quickly though, didn't last longer than a week or two if I remember correctly.

    So it seemed like the same kind of desync Snipe has but at least it got fixed.
  • Beardimus
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    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, no it's not..

    It's a hate broken skills thread

    Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?

    Or all bow skills to that matter.

    Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
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  • Beardimus
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    Here you go @ZarkingFrued for your sanity this was a year ago and acknowledged in the Class Reps discussions with ZOS.

    Folks can deny it or straw man argue it till they blue in the face. But same as Rune Cage, same as Fear, it's a bugged skill pure and simple.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/458143/snipe-stacking-health-desync-exploit/p1
    Xbox One | EU | EP
    Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
    1st Emperor of Ravenwatch
    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders

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    Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
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  • nublife01
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    Here come the snipe defenders, ever valiant to avoid their easy mode kills. Waiting for it. Oh wait. They're here already. Gonna act all pretentious and tell me that I don't understand cause they're all so intelligent that they play a game like ESO.

    Except for the fact that most players are melee ranged builds and youre upset that snipers are ranged players that are not playing the way you want them to play.
    [Snip]

    IF you have a problem with the assassin playstyle and the class (NB) than you need to complain to the developer about your issue. Until then, the sniper assassin playstyle is working per developers discretion. And snipers have the same amount of privilage to play this video game as the melee ranged player has!
    [Edited to remove bait]

    The real issue here is that you feel like no in PvP gives one ounce of credit to your playstyle, and you're right. 100% right. No one finds your playstyle valid but the people who do the same thing. It's the only playstyle in game that gets that treatment. That's ok tho. Validate yourself instead of having a breakdown on my forum thread. THE SKILL IS GLITCHED. THE SKILL IS GLITCHED. THE. SKILL. IS. GLITCHED. We're not here to discuss one individuals insecurities. We're here to discuss a glitch. Lol.

    Lol youre clearly upset an assassin out played you

    Reading your comments i can tell youre going to get your thread locked. Repetitively typing the same statement in caps doesnt help your position nor is the skill "glitched".

    You got killed by a sniper get over it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl-n9WwNlko

    Your enemy is supposed to hear the bow string's sound as soon as the arrow is shot.Not to mention the 1 second cast time between snipes AND their travel time in the air. But yes tell me more about how you ''outplayed'' your enemy.

    this video made me lol good ole snipe bug
  • Artorias24
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    it is impossible to make snipe glitch out.
    as was now said multiple times in this thread.
    it is caused by "LAGG" alone, nothing more.
    AND it happens to all the skills in the game not just bow damage abilities like snipe.

    Intresting how Devs think otherwise. @Gilvoth

    "Snipe: ZOS has engineers actively looking into the desynchs and bugs with this skill. They also indicated there has been a lot of feedback about this skill and will reexamine it next update."

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1

  • KillsAllElves
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    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, this is far from an anti-ranged playstyle thread. I play predominantly ranged and I have a problem with the Snipe desync being exploited.

    Snipe as a skill is not an issue.

    Youre assuming snipers are deliberately exploiting desync as if the sniper knows how to intentionally desync others, this is beyond ridiculous almost at the level as calling some one a cheater.

    This notion you stated clearly shows the OP and others dont know what health desync Is and what causes it, so theories insue..

    Calling snipers glitch exploiters or desync exploiters shows the accuser doesnt understand whats going on.

    So, wheres the feedback to "fix" health desync? None was given!

    You're assuming that the same players that consistently repeat this exploit don't know how or what they are doing - you're probably one of the two I see doing it if you do play on Xbox NA.

    Players abusing the Snipe desync are exploiters.

    What feedback do you want me to provide on how to fix this? You assume I or other people here have the technical knowledge to fix this.

    Posting videos does not help the developer with standardized software programming procedures its only greifing for the sake of greifing... Zos is well aware of the desync health issues and the developer is rolling out technical updates for better server performance. This is where software engineers come into focus and they do know the causes of health desync and hopefully these updates will help alleviate alot of tye problems eso is plagued with.

    Repetitevely claiming snipers are deliberately exploiting abilities is not only dishonest but it shows the accuser/s are unaware of what desync is and what causes it. Saying snipers are exploiters is a theory to supress ones lack of understanding. this is why others should not be discussing the topic, most players are unaware of what desync is and will gravititate towards theological remedies and/or insult others.

    Not one suggestion was made to "fix" snipe desync.
  • JobooAGS
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    Still I would love to see a video of the sniper exploiting... from the sniper’s POV
  • KillsAllElves
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, no it's not..

    It's a hate broken skills thread

    Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?

    Or all bow skills to that matter.

    Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem

    If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!

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    Beardimus wrote: »
    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, no it's not..

    It's a hate broken skills thread

    Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?

    Or all bow skills to that matter.

    Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem

    If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!

    We are supposed to be able to hear the bow twang when snipe goes off but the game is not making the noise so the opponent has no counter play option you just fall over dead. That's not how its supposed to work.

    I mean if your car was broken and wouldn't start it doesn't mean it's not broken because you aren't sure exactly what the issue is that causing the no start..... I'm a sniper it's broken stop defending the desync
    Edited by jadarock on February 19, 2020 12:05PM
  • KillsAllElves
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    JobooAGS wrote: »
    Still I would love to see a video of the sniper exploiting... from the sniper’s POV

    Exactly.
    I will tag you later when i get a few clips uploaded of recent snipes.
    Btw my rotation is 1-3 snipes- light attacks- silver bolts.
    Edited by KillsAllElves on February 19, 2020 1:02PM
  • KillsAllElves
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    jadarock wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, no it's not..

    It's a hate broken skills thread

    Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?

    Or all bow skills to that matter.

    Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem

    If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!

    We are supposed to be able to hear the bow twang when snipe goes off but the game is not making the noise so the opponent has no counter play option you just fall over dead. That's not how its supposed to work.

    I mean if your car was broken and wouldn't start it doesn't mean it's not broken because you aren't sure exactly what the issue is that causing the no start..... I'm a sniper it's broken stop defending the desync

    Dont assume im defending desync.

    The farther you are you from snipe the quiter it is, the projectile has always had a faint whirling/wizzing sound, when snipe is released from the bow it makes a distinctive tink sound- however at almost near max range its almost impossible to hear the snipe release.
  • jadarock
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    @KillsAllElves
    You are blindly defending it . We are all telling you the que is not syncing or happening at all. I have a clip from a few days ago battling guildies at close range trying to snipe each other....

    ALOT OF TIMES THERE ISNT THE AUDIO QUE

    Please do us all a favor go grab a friend or guildie have them snipe you in a few different fights.
    You'll see it's not working right

  • roflcopter
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    Hello there,

    Recently we've had to remove a few posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.

    Thank you for understanding.

    Clearly another thread you guys can easily clarify and explain away to avoid the "baiting and flaming". Instead of helping the community you continue to let these player driven debates on ZOS issues enflame and rage in your forums. This could easily be clarified easily by linking to a statement or another thread where this is addressed, or by having a developer statement or join the thread to clarify something that is currently not working as intended.

    This is hardly a feature debate. Unless, like animation canceling the desync will become a feature adopted, which it should still be addressed.

    Edit:
    @Beardimus found this link that should hopefully clear up this issue

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1

    From Feb of 2019... lol
    "Snipe: ZOS has engineers actively looking into the desynchs and bugs with this skill. They also indicated there has been a lot of feedback about this skill and will reexamine it next update.
    Arena Weapons: Reevaluating these are “on the radar.” ZOS knows they need adjustment."

    Edited by roflcopter on February 19, 2020 8:49PM
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  • brandonv516
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    roflcopter wrote: »
    Hello there,

    Recently we've had to remove a few posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.

    Thank you for understanding.

    Clearly another thread you guys can easily clarify and explain away to avoid the "baiting and flaming". Instead of helping the community you continue to let these player driven debates on ZOS issues enflame and rage in your forums. This could easily be clarified easily by linking to a statement or another thread where this is addressed, or by having a developer statement or join the thread to clarify something that is currently not working as intended.

    This is hardly a feature debate. Unless, like animation canceling the desync will become a feature adopted, which it should still be addressed.

    It's the only reason that the skill is strong. Snipe isn't even competitive when it's not being exploited with the desync bug.
    Edited by brandonv516 on February 19, 2020 3:14PM
  • Gilvoth
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    msalvia wrote: »
    Recently was playing in IC and kept fighting another player (same guy each time). We fought 4 different times, and each time, the guy managed to land (per my death summary) a d-swing, 2h heavy attack, and executioner is under 1 second. At first I thought it was a desync, but the exact same combo killed me 4 different times, all in >1 second, no exaggeration. Seemingly, that all hit me in the same instant.
    Help me L2P and "get gud," all you ESO geniuses.

    but here in this thread people claim this only happens with snipe.
    i find it interesting the more we look into this event the more we see that snipe is not the only skill this happens with.

    Edited by Gilvoth on February 19, 2020 4:37PM
  • jadarock
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    @Gilvoth
    I feel a desync from toppling charge, dizzy, vamp drain , onslaught and the obviously the worst one of them all snipe.
    Those are the skills whenever I have a wtf moment and check my recap.

    Get people to post clips and I'd be all in for you starting the campaign to get the other offenders fixed :smile:
    Edited by jadarock on February 19, 2020 5:17PM
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    And this is precisely why you gotta be crazy walking around in cyrodiil with less then 25k res., Sword and board, 3k crit resistance and 28k hp.
    To quote Sir Isac Newton: "every action has an equal and opposite reaction."
    Welcome to the tank měta. If the game wouldn't lag so much that dodgerolling and blocking hard hits were viable you wouldn't have all the bruiser builds in this game.
    Ever since I follow the minimum requirements for every build I use as I stated above I haven't been snipestacked at all.
    It all comes down to the performance beeing far from optimal atm.
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  • Beardimus
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, no it's not..

    It's a hate broken skills thread

    Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?

    Or all bow skills to that matter.

    Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem

    If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!

    I already did @KillsAllElves

    As did ZOS

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  • roflcopter
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, no it's not..

    It's a hate broken skills thread

    Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?

    Or all bow skills to that matter.

    Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem

    If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!

    I already did @KillsAllElves

    As did ZOS

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1

    At this point since that thread is a year old, we can only assume it's now a feature... lol gitgud ZOS
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  • Beardimus
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    roflcopter wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    xWarbrain wrote: »
    This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.

    @KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.

    This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.

    ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.

    If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
    The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....
    And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"

    No, no it's not..

    It's a hate broken skills thread

    Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?

    Or all bow skills to that matter.

    Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem

    If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!

    I already did @KillsAllElves

    As did ZOS

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1

    At this point since that thread is a year old, we can only assume it's now a feature... lol gitgud ZOS

    I'm holding out hope, Fear was bust just as long but they had a go at it.

    Rune cage was broke and they fixed it in 3 months well by fix it took a quadruple nerf so no one ran it again rather than fix lol
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