roflcopter wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
At this point since that thread is a year old, we can only assume it's now a feature... lol gitgud ZOS
I'm holding out hope, Fear was bust just as long but they had a go at it.
Rune cage was broke and they fixed it in 3 months well by fix it took a quadruple nerf so no one ran it again rather than fix lol
@KillsAllElves
You are blindly defending it . We are all telling you the que is not syncing or happening at all. I have a clip from a few days ago battling guildies at close range trying to snipe each other....
ALOT OF TIMES THERE ISNT THE AUDIO QUE
Please do us all a favor go grab a friend or guildie have them snipe you in a few different fights.
You'll see it's not working right
KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
No you didn't !
And the link you provided was a very vague response and by no means was it an explanation. Read response #77 no where in this thread am i defending desync of any type.
brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
No you didn't !
And the link you provided was a very vague response and by no means was it an explanation. Read response #77 no where in this thread am i defending desync of any type.
But why do you keep defending it? You didn't explain that well enough.
KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
No you didn't !
And the link you provided was a very vague response and by no means was it an explanation. Read response #77 no where in this thread am i defending desync of any type.
But why do you keep defending it? You didn't explain that well enough.
Defending what? Snipe damage? Desync? Snipe range? Theres a distinction between the 3.
Do you not know what desync is?
brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
No you didn't !
And the link you provided was a very vague response and by no means was it an explanation. Read response #77 no where in this thread am i defending desync of any type.
But why do you keep defending it? You didn't explain that well enough.
Defending what? Snipe damage? Desync? Snipe range? Theres a distinction between the 3.
Do you not know what desync is?
Of course I know about the Snipe desync exploit. I've expressed my opinion many times here.
KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
No you didn't !
And the link you provided was a very vague response and by no means was it an explanation. Read response #77 no where in this thread am i defending desync of any type.
But why do you keep defending it? You didn't explain that well enough.
Defending what? Snipe damage? Desync? Snipe range? Theres a distinction between the 3.
Do you not know what desync is?
Of course I know about the Snipe desync exploit. I've expressed my opinion many times here.
So you believe snipers are deliberately exploiting desync?😂
brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
No you didn't !
And the link you provided was a very vague response and by no means was it an explanation. Read response #77 no where in this thread am i defending desync of any type.
But why do you keep defending it? You didn't explain that well enough.
Defending what? Snipe damage? Desync? Snipe range? Theres a distinction between the 3.
Do you not know what desync is?
Of course I know about the Snipe desync exploit. I've expressed my opinion many times here.
So you believe snipers are deliberately exploiting desync?😂
Like a broken record, oh boy. Yes some are intentionally while others are not. To assume they all are not is naive.
Using something to your advantage when it's knowingly broken is an exploit.
ZarkingFrued wrote: »ZoS this is absolutely absurd. When are you going to fix it? The skill hits 3x at once, honestly this is as bad as players being invisible unintentionally form that costume a few months back. I've gotten so used to it that it's practically a feature.
brandonv516 wrote: »ZarkingFrued wrote: »ZoS this is absolutely absurd. When are you going to fix it? The skill hits 3x at once, honestly this is as bad as players being invisible unintentionally form that costume a few months back. I've gotten so used to it that it's practically a feature.
Back to the topic. They are definitely looking into this! Hope the fix comes soon.
It will be nice when people can't exploit this anymore.
KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »ZarkingFrued wrote: »ZoS this is absolutely absurd. When are you going to fix it? The skill hits 3x at once, honestly this is as bad as players being invisible unintentionally form that costume a few months back. I've gotten so used to it that it's practically a feature.
Back to the topic. They are definitely looking into this! Hope the fix comes soon.
It will be nice when people can't exploit this anymore.
Evidence to support your claim? Or nah?
KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"
No, no it's not..
It's a hate broken skills thread
Hes not started a thread about thread about Destruction staffs or MagSorcs has he?
Or all bow skills to that matter.
Just the bugged one that we all know has a problem
If youre going to imply an ability is broken then elaborate exactly whats "broken"!
I already did @KillsAllElves
As did ZOS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
No you didn't !
And the link you provided was a very vague response and by no means was it an explanation. Read response #77 no where in this thread am i defending desync of any type.
KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »ZarkingFrued wrote: »ZoS this is absolutely absurd. When are you going to fix it? The skill hits 3x at once, honestly this is as bad as players being invisible unintentionally form that costume a few months back. I've gotten so used to it that it's practically a feature.
Back to the topic. They are definitely looking into this! Hope the fix comes soon.
It will be nice when people can't exploit this anymore.
Evidence to support your claim? Or nah?
@KillsAllElves Yeo the evidence was posted by Gina.
It's linked three times in this thread.
You have ignored it three times.
Like the way you must ignore snipe being a buggy skill that we all know it is.
Let's clarify, are you saying Snipe is 100% legit skill? Nothing up with it at all. You have never had any weird behaviour on the receiving end of it, not once?
Or what's your stance? Whats your assessment of it.
As the rest of us HAVE been on the receiving end of weird behaviours from that skill. And ZOS have acknowledged it.
KillsAllElves wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »ZarkingFrued wrote: »ZoS this is absolutely absurd. When are you going to fix it? The skill hits 3x at once, honestly this is as bad as players being invisible unintentionally form that costume a few months back. I've gotten so used to it that it's practically a feature.
Back to the topic. They are definitely looking into this! Hope the fix comes soon.
It will be nice when people can't exploit this anymore.
Evidence to support your claim? Or nah?
@KillsAllElves Yeo the evidence was posted by Gina.
It's linked three times in this thread.
You have ignored it three times.
Like the way you must ignore snipe being a buggy skill that we all know it is.
Let's clarify, are you saying Snipe is 100% legit skill? Nothing up with it at all. You have never had any weird behaviour on the receiving end of it, not once?
Or what's your stance? Whats your assessment of it.
As the rest of us HAVE been on the receiving end of weird behaviours from that skill. And ZOS have acknowledged it.
Gina did not produce evidence of some snipers deliberately "exploiting" a "glitch" as brandonv claims.
The link provided was vague in saying bugs, it was not detailed.
I already gave a response to you hours ago, scroll up and find it^^
Not one time did i state there are no bugs nor am i defending health desync- abilities do not cause health desync connection and server software issues are what were experience. Know the difference.
This one is weird. You hear and see the first snipe but not the next 4-5. They all land at the same time as usualhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMDhj4JRhmE
This one is weird. You hear and see the first snipe but not the next 4-5. They all land at the same time as usualhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMDhj4JRhmE
brandonv516 wrote: »
Ok cool so you admit snipe is bugged, and does some funky stuff.
You just don't feel people can trigger it.
That said spamming it (intentionally or unintentionally) could well be triggering
With all due respect, you aren't doing your cause any favors by cutting away right before the death recap. For all we know, 2 snipers nailed you at the same time. In any case, it's not particularly relevant — I've gotten nailed by de-syncs of all flavors, in Cyrodiil & BGs. There was one BG match in particular where we were fighting a team of magsorcs and my health was basically de-synced the entire match. It seemed like I was getting 1-hit over and over but, my recap kept showing a completely different story. (And none of the skills in it were snipe.)KillsAllElves wrote: »ZarkingFrued wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »ZarkingFrued wrote: »Here come the snipe defenders, ever valiant to avoid their easy mode kills. Waiting for it. Oh wait. They're here already. Gonna act all pretentious and tell me that I don't understand cause they're all so intelligent that they play a game like ESO.
Except for the fact that most players are melee ranged builds and youre upset that snipers are ranged players that are not playing the way you want them to play.
[Snip]
IF you have a problem with the assassin playstyle and the class (NB) than you need to complain to the developer about your issue. Until then, the sniper assassin playstyle is working per developers discretion. And snipers have the same amount of privilage to play this video game as the melee ranged player has!
[Edited to remove bait]
The real issue here is that you feel like no in PvP gives one ounce of credit to your playstyle, and you're right. 100% right. No one finds your playstyle valid but the people who do the same thing. It's the only playstyle in game that gets that treatment. That's ok tho. Validate yourself instead of having a breakdown on my forum thread. THE SKILL IS GLITCHED. THE SKILL IS GLITCHED. THE. SKILL. IS. GLITCHED. We're not here to discuss one individuals insecurities. We're here to discuss a glitch. Lol.
Lol youre clearly upset an assassin out played you
Reading your comments i can tell youre going to get your thread locked. Repetitively typing the same statement in caps doesnt help your position nor is the skill "glitched".
You got killed by a sniper get over it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl-n9WwNlko
Your enemy is supposed to hear the bow string's sound as soon as the arrow is shot.Not to mention the 1 second cast time between snipes AND their travel time in the air. But yes tell me more about how you ''outplayed'' your enemy.
zrazmab16_ESO wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »
Ok cool so you admit snipe is bugged, and does some funky stuff.
You just don't feel people can trigger it.
That said spamming it (intentionally or unintentionally) could well be triggering
Cool guessing here... Is that’s how you’re supposed to construct credible facts statements nowadays, especially when it refers to blaming someone for cheating/exploiting?
zrazmab16_ESO wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »
Ok cool so you admit snipe is bugged, and does some funky stuff.
You just don't feel people can trigger it.
That said spamming it (intentionally or unintentionally) could well be triggering
Cool guessing here... Is that’s how you’re supposed to construct credible facts statements nowadays, especially when it refers to blaming someone for cheating/exploiting?
brandonv516 wrote: »zrazmab16_ESO wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »
Ok cool so you admit snipe is bugged, and does some funky stuff.
You just don't feel people can trigger it.
That said spamming it (intentionally or unintentionally) could well be triggering
Cool guessing here... Is that’s how you’re supposed to construct credible facts statements nowadays, especially when it refers to blaming someone for cheating/exploiting?
Is that how you properly quote someone? Not my text there pal.