SNIPE DESYNC (POST YOUR CLIPS!). FEEDBACK IS THE KEY TO A FIX

Xandreia_

https://youtu.be/-9-ICnvgd08

I dont think zos knows what desync is after watching the changes they highlighted on a stream lol, easy fix to snipe... give it fatigue like streak 👌

Ankael07

Doesnt makes sense for ZOS to nerf players because they cant fix their game. Fixing this will be enough of a nerf anyway

JobooAGS

Xandreia_ wrote: »

https://youtu.be/-9-ICnvgd08

I dont think zos knows what desync is after watching the changes they highlighted on a stream lol, easy fix to snipe... give it fatigue like streak 👌

around 1 second, you see the minor defile debuff from snipe. Best way to combat snipe is to look for debuffs. A 4 second defile + poisoned status means lethal arrow. A 10 second fracture means focused aim

jadarock

JSTCH wrote: »

This skill is beyond a joke in Console pvp. I get instantly killed then I look at my recap and see 5 seperate focused aims. Iv spent a lot of time and money on this game and to die to a new player spamming one skill, it is just ridiculous. The least they can do is nerf the damage and have the skill apply negative effects rather than serious amounts of damage. At least that would fix the desync

You are that guy?
You might as well delete the skill at that point because it wont get used at all....

Yes please do and kill off more build diversity smh

Royaji

Xandreia_ wrote: »

I dont think zos knows what desync is after watching the changes they highlighted on a stream lol, easy fix to snipe... give it fatigue like streak 👌

So you propose to add fatigue to an intended spammable in the bow skillline, right? Yeah, that will work great. Sure thing.

And then people are surprised why some are so adamant on sweeping all the issues with snipe under the rug. You can't help but be defensive when some consider an orbital nuke of a nerf to a skill to be an acceptable solution to fixing a bug.

Xandreia_

JobooAGS wrote: »

Xandreia_ wrote: »

https://youtu.be/-9-ICnvgd08

I dont think zos knows what desync is after watching the changes they highlighted on a stream lol, easy fix to snipe... give it fatigue like streak 👌

around 1 second, you see the minor defile debuff from snipe. Best way to combat snipe is to look for debuffs. A 4 second defile + poisoned status means lethal arrow. A 10 second fracture means focused aim

Half the time you dont even see the debuff lol

Xandreia_

Royaji wrote: »

Xandreia_ wrote: »

I dont think zos knows what desync is after watching the changes they highlighted on a stream lol, easy fix to snipe... give it fatigue like streak 👌

So you propose to add fatigue to an intended spammable in the bow skillline, right? Yeah, that will work great. Sure thing.

And then people are surprised why some are so adamant on sweeping all the issues with snipe under the rug. You can't help but be defensive when some consider an orbital nuke of a nerf to a skill to be an acceptable solution to fixing a bug.

I honestly dont care what they do to snipe as long as they do something! A skill that desyncs and is exploited because the people who use it cant play anything else is dumb! They sit in stealth waiting for their target to be out numbered to desync them it's a huge issue and one that hasn't been addressed in years!

roflcopter

ZOS_RyanM wrote: »

We have removed some posts from this thread that were considered to be baiting. It’s perfectly acceptable to disagree with others here on the forum. However, it is important to avoid putting other people down for their opinions, ideas, or suggestions. In most discussions, there is not a right or wrong, just different views, opinions, and interests. Being civil and respectful can go a long way, especially when involved in a heated debate.

This isn't a debate... lol. This is a question about a bug in game and the potential of it being purposely exploited. All of which can easily and quickly be clarified by ZOS.

All of what you said could 100% be avoided by getting a developer statement, linking to another thread discussing the topic or even relaying a message from another team on this topic.

What part of this thread makes you think people are getting heated over a debate on what their favorite color is and why?

This could all be avoided, and thats on you guys.

smdh

ZarkingFrued

Glad to see people have been posting clips and giving real feedback, reminder to keep it clean and not let those who just want to get the thread closed so they can exploit win.

ZarkingFrued

Gilvoth wrote: »

msalvia wrote: »

Recently was playing in IC and kept fighting another player (same guy each time). We fought 4 different times, and each time, the guy managed to land (per my death summary) a d-swing, 2h heavy attack, and executioner is under 1 second. At first I thought it was a desync, but the exact same combo killed me 4 different times, all in >1 second, no exaggeration. Seemingly, that all hit me in the same instant.
Help me L2P and "get gud," all you ESO geniuses.

but here in this thread people claim this only happens with snipe.
i find it interesting the more we look into this event the more we see that snipe is not the only skill this happens with.

It's entirely possible that others desync, I don't have much issue with it myself, the only one I know is gonna desync me is snipe every time

Ankael07

https://youtu.be/Uv1M8wXhZKc?t=49

its around 0:50

JSTCH

jadarock wrote: »

JSTCH wrote: »

This skill is beyond a joke in Console pvp. I get instantly killed then I look at my recap and see 5 seperate focused aims. Iv spent a lot of time and money on this game and to die to a new player spamming one skill, it is just ridiculous. The least they can do is nerf the damage and have the skill apply negative effects rather than serious amounts of damage. At least that would fix the desync

You are that guy?
You might as well delete the skill at that point because it wont get used at all....

Yes please do and kill off more build diversity smh

Good the skill should be deleted. I’m guessing you exploit snipe to? I’m sorry if snipe is your only way to kill people, that’s very unfortunate, but a kill should be earned. Sitting in cloak and sniping people as they are already fighting, knowing that 5 snipes will land at once is not earning a kill. It’s straight pathetic and ruins the game for the players not exploiting.

JSTCH

JSTCH wrote: »

jadarock wrote: »

JSTCH wrote: »

This skill is beyond a joke in Console pvp. I get instantly killed then I look at my recap and see 5 seperate focused aims. Iv spent a lot of time and money on this game and to die to a new player spamming one skill, it is just ridiculous. The least they can do is nerf the damage and have the skill apply negative effects rather than serious amounts of damage. At least that would fix the desync

You are that guy?
You might as well delete the skill at that point because it wont get used at all....

Yes please do and kill off more build diversity smh

Good the skill should be deleted. I’m guessing you exploit snipe to? I’m sorry if snipe is your only way to kill people, that’s very unfortunate, but a kill should be earned. Sitting in cloak and sniping people as they are already fighting, knowing that 5 snipes will land at once is not earning a kill. It’s straight pathetic and ruins the game for the players not exploiting.

I love how you talk about build diversity to. Snipe will be used on more builds if it applies a dot or multiple negative effects as apposed to a one button op desync spam. But it would take a “non snipe exploiter” to know how to make a build without running broken skills, but I guess that’s a little to much for a typical snip spammer who clearly believes snipe is functioning fairly.

Aztlan

This is so simple. The desync bug needs to be fixed. That's all. Otherwise the skill is fine. So many people muddy the waters with "one button," "no skill," blah blah blah.

albertberku

Using Snipe in sneak giving no audio has to change. They are hitting without any notice + stunning + because it is cast time, can directly hit with another skill. 2 skills + light attack + enchant are guaranteed hit, and in a full damage build with divines and everything. This can even without desync can one shot many builds when some of the hits crit.

Aztlan

Which is fine. Why do you think Focused Aim has a 40m range (potentially 48)? It's not a dueling skill. It's a massive battle skill.

universal_wrath

I'm only here to see the videos and Lmao on the people saying it is a L2P. serious question though, does this glitch/exploit only work in stealth?

stamcro

@LeHarrt91 this is a perfect example of how busted this is. Anyone defending it needs it to get a kill lol. But hey that’s just my undead opinion.

MCBIZZLE300

Just remove snipe, its such a coward way to play anyway.

Dr_Ganknstein

MCBIZZLE300 wrote: »

Just remove snipe, its such a coward way to play anyway.

Oh ok, let's remove cloak and what the hell let's remove NB also. Actually let's remove all escape tools as well as they are cowardly. Also technically armor seems cowardly also so no more armor either. Also now that I think about it only cowards need weapons. From now on all weapons are banned from cyrodiil. Fists only.

robpr

SNIPE ITSELF IS FINE!!!!!
Just fix the bugs with it.

Skunkkie420

Snipe skill is fine with me but this dead before you can react shouldn't happen by a spammable 50m away .

Wish they didn't destroy DK wings RIP but they had to .
Wouldn't want snipers actually needing 2 dodge a snipe or worse die by there own snipe because they didn't open their eyes.
just let them spam away in bg's from the spawn xD



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqejT5E7pNQ

BXR_Lonestar

My idea? Make snipe an ultimate. Replace Toxic Barrage with "Snipe." That way, the ultimate provides two very different options to choose from.

Then, make Snipe function like this:

Ultimate Cost - 150(ish?)
Snipe is a guaranteed hit when activated within bow range, ignores target resistance (but not other forms of damage mitigation), and will be a guaranteed critical hit when shot from stealth. Damage should be buffed to reflect that it is now an ultimate.

The goal should be that with the right build, snipe should effectively be able to eliminate a low health, high priority target in a single shot - which is what snipe should be. Keep in mind that most people in Cyrodil are running around with an average of 27-28K HP, with 23K being on the low end.

This resolves the desyncing issue since snipe can now not be spammed. But then people need to accept that Snipe will have OHK ability potential with the right build vs. the right target. IMO, that's fair, given how strong some of the other ultimates are.

Acid Arrow/Arrow Barrage can become the new spammable for the bow, and snipe can be replaced with a buff skill similar to Rally so that if you want to go with a bow/bow build, you still have access to Major Brutality.

jadarock

JSTCH wrote: »

jadarock wrote: »

JSTCH wrote: »

This skill is beyond a joke in Console pvp. I get instantly killed then I look at my recap and see 5 seperate focused aims. Iv spent a lot of time and money on this game and to die to a new player spamming one skill, it is just ridiculous. The least they can do is nerf the damage and have the skill apply negative effects rather than serious amounts of damage. At least that would fix the desync

You are that guy?
You might as well delete the skill at that point because it wont get used at all....

Yes please do and kill off more build diversity smh

Good the skill should be deleted. I’m guessing you exploit snipe to? I’m sorry if snipe is your only way to kill people, that’s very unfortunate, but a kill should be earned. Sitting in cloak and sniping people as they are already fighting, knowing that 5 snipes will land at once is not earning a kill. It’s straight pathetic and ruins the game for the players not exploiting.

Let me guess cloak needs nerfed and weaving too?
Thats an honest Question...
You'd really be mad when I go full blown zergling front bar snipe asylum bow/bow stam sorc....
No cloak....
I've said the same thing in every post snipe is fine except for the desync. It's been nerfed already and is no different than some hard hitting sorc hitting you while your already engaged...Fix the desync.

jadarock

JSTCH wrote: »

JSTCH wrote: »

jadarock wrote: »

JSTCH wrote: »

This skill is beyond a joke in Console pvp. I get instantly killed then I look at my recap and see 5 seperate focused aims. Iv spent a lot of time and money on this game and to die to a new player spamming one skill, it is just ridiculous. The least they can do is nerf the damage and have the skill apply negative effects rather than serious amounts of damage. At least that would fix the desync

You are that guy?
You might as well delete the skill at that point because it wont get used at all....

Yes please do and kill off more build diversity smh

Good the skill should be deleted. I’m guessing you exploit snipe to? I’m sorry if snipe is your only way to kill people, that’s very unfortunate, but a kill should be earned. Sitting in cloak and sniping people as they are already fighting, knowing that 5 snipes will land at once is not earning a kill. It’s straight pathetic and ruins the game for the players not exploiting.

I love how you talk about build diversity to. Snipe will be used on more builds if it applies a dot or multiple negative effects as apposed to a one button op desync spam. But it would take a “non snipe exploiter” to know how to make a build without running broken skills, but I guess that’s a little to much for a typical snip spammer who clearly believes snipe is functioning fairly.

You talk about me as if you have any clue who I am or what I play? I have 8 chars mostly mag all of which I play the way I want (non meta builds) have from day one 4 years ago and also all who exclusively pvp. Not sure how that crow tastes
Also please dont act as if there aren't other popular skills classes and gear sets that arent broken in some way lol May I ask what you main?

Fawn4287

This first clip is the most typical situation you find yourself in thanks to snipe

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/86513050

And this clip is something that really illustrates how ridiculous the ability is, find anything else in the games history capable of CONTINUING TO KILL YOU AFTER DEATH

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/i-senor-bot/video/91647514

reiverx

I think at this point it's obvious they're not going to do anything about it.