This isn't going to cause things to get weird on systems that HAVE to use gamepad mode (aka, consoles) is it?
*bites shirt nervously*
MashmalloMan wrote: »This isn't going to cause things to get weird on systems that HAVE to use gamepad mode (aka, consoles) is it?
*bites shirt nervously*
No. This applies to people that use the UI scaling. If you do, you're probably using it because you're sitting in front of a monitor.
For me, playing at 1440p, monitor, with UI scaling set to about 1/3, pts looks like trash. The first thing I noticed is how poorly textured the UI looks when it's that large. It makes everything feel blurry instead of crisp. The other issue is menu's just take up the entire screen space. It's ugly to look at and completely pulls me back to 2005 MMOs, even though I'm playing at 1440p.
Just no. This can't happen.
16BitForestCat wrote: »"Use Steam version instead" isn't even a viable workaround since Steam causes its own issues with the game.
16BitForestCat wrote: »"Use Steam version instead" isn't even a viable workaround since Steam causes its own issues with the game.
I haven't used Steam for quite a long time and do not gamepad at all but I think you can use ESO as non-Steam game with Steam gamepad interface.
wow this patch zos are really keen on showing they don't care about their players at all.
first iceheart and now this is gonna go live.
thanks for nothing zos.
goodbye eso i guess?
Lady_Linux wrote: »seems rather rude of them to do that... how can we pressure them to get their attention?
curtisnewton wrote: »So how this this look?
My gf uses controller when playing on pc with hdmi going to a 4k TV.
She likes the big fonts. It looks like eso on xbox.
So is there a comparison shot old vs new?
There's not really a comparison for the one on live, because you can scale it to whatever you want, between these extremes:
The new one on the PTS is fixed at this size:
Nemesis7884 wrote: »Yeah that makes sense, I just don't have a TV that large lol.Nemesis7884 wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »thissocalledflower wrote: »thats odd i didnt notice it when i was on pts....
If you don't usually scale down your UI on live, you won't notice any difference.
what about upscaling? without upscaling i cant see ANYTHING on a 4k tv
Well upscaling won't work either, obviously. I just didn't conceive a circumstance where that would be necessary.
without upscaling on pc 4k tv you cant see anything and not play the game...so basically that was eso for me
Just to be clear, the normal PC UI can still be scaled just fine, it's only the gamepad / controller UI that can't be scaled anymore.
i dont understand what the difference is...if you play on controller you have controller ui
Not necessarily true. You can play with a controller and ESO’s native PC interface by running the game through Steam (as a non-Steam game, if need be) and using Steam’s controller input mapping.
While that might be an option for some people, it’s obviously not a universal solution, and we shouldn’t have to resort to Steam to fix an ESO issue anyhow.
relentless_turnip wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »Yeah that makes sense, I just don't have a TV that large lol.Nemesis7884 wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »thissocalledflower wrote: »thats odd i didnt notice it when i was on pts....
If you don't usually scale down your UI on live, you won't notice any difference.
what about upscaling? without upscaling i cant see ANYTHING on a 4k tv
Well upscaling won't work either, obviously. I just didn't conceive a circumstance where that would be necessary.
without upscaling on pc 4k tv you cant see anything and not play the game...so basically that was eso for me
Just to be clear, the normal PC UI can still be scaled just fine, it's only the gamepad / controller UI that can't be scaled anymore.
i dont understand what the difference is...if you play on controller you have controller ui
Not necessarily true. You can play with a controller and ESO’s native PC interface by running the game through Steam (as a non-Steam game, if need be) and using Steam’s controller input mapping.
While that might be an option for some people, it’s obviously not a universal solution, and we shouldn’t have to resort to Steam to fix an ESO issue anyhow.
OK OK let's pretend I'm an idiot and i need this explaining to me step by step
Seriously how do you set this up? this would be ideal for me.
I run ESO through steam and find when I switch gamepad on in the ESO menu it reverts to controller UI by default.
I currently use "Advanced disable controller" add on to remove the gamepad UI completely.
This add on hasn't been updated since elsweyr though and its getting pretty buggy.
I use mouse and keyboard in town and controller for all combat.
We don't play on console, though. We play on PC. Most of us don't sit 2 meters away from a TV, but barely 1 meter from a much smaller PC screen. That comes with different requirements for an interface.ApostateHobo wrote: »curtisnewton wrote: »So how this this look?
My gf uses controller when playing on pc with hdmi going to a 4k TV.
She likes the big fonts. It looks like eso on xbox.
So is there a comparison shot old vs new?
There's not really a comparison for the one on live, because you can scale it to whatever you want, between these extremes:
The new one on the PTS is fixed at this size:
Sooo it just looks the way it does on console then? I'm confused as to what people are so up in arms about XD
ApostateHobo wrote: »curtisnewton wrote: »So how this this look?
My gf uses controller when playing on pc with hdmi going to a 4k TV.
She likes the big fonts. It looks like eso on xbox.
So is there a comparison shot old vs new?
There's not really a comparison for the one on live, because you can scale it to whatever you want, between these extremes:
The new one on the PTS is fixed at this size:
Sooo it just looks the way it does on console then? I'm confused as to what people are so up in arms about XD
relentless_turnip wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »Yeah that makes sense, I just don't have a TV that large lol.Nemesis7884 wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »thissocalledflower wrote: »thats odd i didnt notice it when i was on pts....
If you don't usually scale down your UI on live, you won't notice any difference.
what about upscaling? without upscaling i cant see ANYTHING on a 4k tv
Well upscaling won't work either, obviously. I just didn't conceive a circumstance where that would be necessary.
without upscaling on pc 4k tv you cant see anything and not play the game...so basically that was eso for me
Just to be clear, the normal PC UI can still be scaled just fine, it's only the gamepad / controller UI that can't be scaled anymore.
i dont understand what the difference is...if you play on controller you have controller ui
Not necessarily true. You can play with a controller and ESO’s native PC interface by running the game through Steam (as a non-Steam game, if need be) and using Steam’s controller input mapping.
While that might be an option for some people, it’s obviously not a universal solution, and we shouldn’t have to resort to Steam to fix an ESO issue anyhow.
OK OK let's pretend I'm an idiot and i need this explaining to me step by step
Seriously how do you set this up? this would be ideal for me.
I run ESO through steam and find when I switch gamepad on in the ESO menu it reverts to controller UI by default.
I currently use "Advanced disable controller" add on to remove the gamepad UI completely.
This add on hasn't been updated since elsweyr though and its getting pretty buggy.
I use mouse and keyboard in town and controller for all combat.
It’s been a while since I had it set up, but basically you do not want to turn on gamepad mode anywhere in ESO settings. Steam will take care of enabling the controller input, and ESO will be none the wiser — it will think you’re still using a mouse. That’s why this would be a workaround for gamepad UI entirely.
Steam controller settings are accessed through Big Picture Mode, iirc. (There should be a rectangular icon with two diagonal arrows in it next to the minimize/maximize/close window icons.) From there, go to Settings (the cog in the top right) and use the Controller Settings to set up whichever controller you use. You should be able to select from among publicly shared preset configurations for ESO and tweak one to your liking or create your own. It gets very detailed in terms of being able to bind actions to short presses, long presses, half-pulls on the triggers, the center area on a DS4 if that’s what you’re using, etc. It’s much more customizable than the rebinding options for ESO gamepad UI, but it does require that initial work of getting a configuration set up that works for you. There are a few guides online to help, but I also found that experimentation worked well too.
I may have missed something in there or gotten something confused, but hopefully others can chime in here too.
We don't play on console, though. We play on PC. Most of us don't sit 2 meters away from a TV, but barely 1 meter from a much smaller PC screen. That comes with different requirements for an interface.ApostateHobo wrote: »curtisnewton wrote: »So how this this look?
My gf uses controller when playing on pc with hdmi going to a 4k TV.
She likes the big fonts. It looks like eso on xbox.
So is there a comparison shot old vs new?
There's not really a comparison for the one on live, because you can scale it to whatever you want, between these extremes:
The new one on the PTS is fixed at this size:
Sooo it just looks the way it does on console then? I'm confused as to what people are so up in arms about XD
What about the add-on Advanced Disable Controller UI. Been using for a long long time.
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1433-AdvancedDisableControllerUI.html
relentless_turnip wrote: »What about the add-on Advanced Disable Controller UI. Been using for a long long time.
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1433-AdvancedDisableControllerUI.html
It hasn't been updated since elsweyr's release and I still use it, but with the changes in the next patch I am not sure it will work at all...
Lady_Linux wrote: »seems rather rude of them to do that... how can we pressure them to get their attention?
Only way is to shame them on social media and hope it hits gaming sites. If it does they will look really bad. It will hit me too because of a disability and if they ignore us they will get destroyed in the public's eye.
Lady_Linux wrote: »seems rather rude of them to do that... how can we pressure them to get their attention?
Only way is to shame them on social media and hope it hits gaming sites. If it does they will look really bad. It will hit me too because of a disability and if they ignore us they will get destroyed in the public's eye.
Yeah, i played with keyboard and mouse for years but it ruined my wrists, solution was gamepad which I used to use for console anyway during my halo MLG days, and they don't even port the functioning aspects from console, it's hilarious that I can't even quit the game with my controller. This is absolutely absurd how they are just pushing this through without thinking about the players.