Remove the ability for players to bite (Both WW and Vamp)

pompusnord · February 2020

Seriously why do you have the scrolls for vampire and werewolf in the crown store then allow players to bypass that for free? You need to remove players being able to infect other players as well as the crown store scrolls and make people go play the game and quit allowing them to have everything handed to them for free. AIso, isn't allowing that theft? I can bet that if someone found a way to hand off instant research scrolls, or some other aspects like that, you would stop that.

And to all the players who will jump on defending bites it does bother me, because I have to read the constant spam in the chat every 5-10 minutes. And no I won't shut the chat off or block anyone because none of you should be spamming the chat with that absurdity.

How about go play the game and quit begging. I am also not interested in people who say things like "I already played the game since beta" or my favorite lame excuse "Zenimax allows it".

If someone got free crowns and access to the crafting bags every month without having to use ESO+ you can bet everyone that will argue with me about this, would have a problem with free crowns and Crafting bags....

If people can keep getting bites for free instead of playing and buying them from the crown store, then people who don't sub should be given the same access to ESO + for free as well. Same exact concept. If you want to say bites are part of the game and people get them for free and without doing any work, then I can say ESO + is part of the game and non-subscribers should be handed it for free without doing any work or having to pay for it.

Icy_Waffles · February 2020

This nonsense will end well.

Sylvermynx · February 2020

Oboy.

max_only · February 2020

Primarily, You can get the bites from npcs. Selling them on crown store was secondary.

Ackwalan · February 2020

Player bites were in game before the crown store and the writ merchant sells research scrolls. Your argument doesn't make sense,

Grandesdar · February 2020

Umm... what? Then how am I supposed to roleplay with my alpha boi? Also, you should be cured if you bite and kill the guy who bit you in the first place. That's how werewolfism works IRL, smh Zeni \s

eklhaftb16_ESO · February 2020

Yes, we should be able to get bites by playing the game. But that would require vampires and werewolves to be actually infectious - which they aren't. I dare you to go to Camlorn and get bitten from Faolchu. Too easy, you say? Okay then, go to March of Sacrifices and get bitten by Balorgh. Then come back and tell us how it worked to you.

SpacemanSpiff1 · February 2020

this is mentally hilarious.

Vietfox · February 2020

You got a lot of issues dude, and not precisely related to the game...

Sylvermynx · February 2020

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes, we should be able to get bites by playing the game. But that would require vampires and werewolves to be actually infectious - which they aren't. I dare you to go to Camlorn and get bitten from Faolchu. Too easy, you say? Okay then, go to March of Sacrifices and get bitten by Balorgh. Then come back and tell us how it worked to you.

Well, some are IIRC - have to be a specific moon phase/time, and specific NPC weres and blood fiends, right?

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Danikat · February 2020

Considering the ability for players to bite players has been in the game since launch and the crown store option allowing you to bypass that element of gameplay (and yes, in a multiplayer game cooperating with other people counts as playing the game) which so offends the OP was added in response to players asking for an easier option that's the one which should be removed.

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes, we should be able to get bites by playing the game. But that would require vampires and werewolves to be actually infectious - which they aren't. I dare you to go to Camlorn and get bitten from Faolchu. Too easy, you say? Okay then, go to March of Sacrifices and get bitten by Balorgh. Then come back and tell us how it worked to you.

They are, you just need to get the right werewolves or blood fiends. (No idea why the ones that turn you into a vampire aren't called vampires). They're in Bangkorai, Reaper's March and The Rift, but only on certain nights. It used to be linked to the phases of the moon (in game) but isn't any more for some reason.

Ackwalan · February 2020

Grandesdar wrote: »

Umm... what? Then how am I supposed to roleplay with my alpha boi? Also, you should be cured if you bite and kill the guy who bit you in the first place. That's how werewolfism works IRL, smh Zeni \s

Depending on the lore, for both vamps and ww's, if you kill the head vamp or ww before you fully change (first full moon) you are cured. If a full moon comes and goes, you are fully infected.

idk · February 2020

pompusnord wrote: »

How about go play the game and quit begging.

You can turn off chat if the rare request for a bite bothers you this much. It is not a big deal and seems like something petty to try to argue against. Based on your argument you seem to be a new player so I will leave it at that.

doomette · February 2020

Soooo joke post. Must be. Please be a joke post.

StaticWave · February 2020

This is definitely a bait thread

dem0n1k · February 2020

pompusnord only does joke threads... his last few about in-game instructions were hilarious

ApostateHobo · February 2020

You doing okay there buddy? Cause you don't seem like it.

Sylvermynx · February 2020

Um. Check his post/comment history.

Sylvermynx · February 2020

Danikat wrote: »

Considering the ability for players to bite players has been in the game since launch and the crown store option allowing you to bypass that element of gameplay (and yes, in a multiplayer game cooperating with other people counts as playing the game) which so offends the OP was added in response to players asking for an easier option that's the one which should be removed.

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes, we should be able to get bites by playing the game. But that would require vampires and werewolves to be actually infectious - which they aren't. I dare you to go to Camlorn and get bitten from Faolchu. Too easy, you say? Okay then, go to March of Sacrifices and get bitten by Balorgh. Then come back and tell us how it worked to you.

They are, you just need to get the right werewolves or blood fiends. (No idea why the ones that turn you into a vampire aren't called vampires). They're in Bangkorai, Reaper's March and The Rift, but only on certain nights. It used to be linked to the phases of the moon (in game) but isn't any more for some reason.

Oh, I must have read an older version then. A good IRL friend actually got accidentally infected by a blood fiend in The Rift (IIRC), and has chosen to continue to play as a vampire on that character. She hasn't had any luck finding a were yet for a different character.

pompusnord · February 2020

The fact that the very first person could not sit in a zone begging to get bit and had to go play the game proves my point to everyone in this thread trying to defend their argument with Bites have been in the game since launch or the crown store. Not too mention you couldn't even get to WW/VAMP until you hit level 50 (Which was at that time end game content)

You cannot use bites always having been in the game as a counter argument without the first bunch of people had to actually work to get it and was not handed to them.

If you don't buy it from the crown store you're stealing money from Zeinmax (It does not matter if Zenimax did that to themselves) using other players means you want everything haned to you and don't want to play the gamer and do any actual work.

Either way you're all trolls trying to make excuses to ignore the issue.

Danikat · February 2020

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

Considering the ability for players to bite players has been in the game since launch and the crown store option allowing you to bypass that element of gameplay (and yes, in a multiplayer game cooperating with other people counts as playing the game) which so offends the OP was added in response to players asking for an easier option that's the one which should be removed.

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes, we should be able to get bites by playing the game. But that would require vampires and werewolves to be actually infectious - which they aren't. I dare you to go to Camlorn and get bitten from Faolchu. Too easy, you say? Okay then, go to March of Sacrifices and get bitten by Balorgh. Then come back and tell us how it worked to you.

They are, you just need to get the right werewolves or blood fiends. (No idea why the ones that turn you into a vampire aren't called vampires). They're in Bangkorai, Reaper's March and The Rift, but only on certain nights. It used to be linked to the phases of the moon (in game) but isn't any more for some reason.

Oh, I must have read an older version then. A good IRL friend actually got accidentally infected by a blood fiend in The Rift (IIRC), and has chosen to continue to play as a vampire on that character. She hasn't had any luck finding a were yet for a different character.

Oddly enough I had the opposite problem. I decided I wanted to get a character infected by a bloodfiend and went looking for them (in Reaper's March) and found infectious werewolves on 3 or 4 different nights before I saw any bloodfiends. Although I couldn't be in-game during every night because a day in ESO is something like 6 hours long, and I still had to work, sleep and do other things so I assume I just had terrible luck and kept missing the bloodfiends.

Slightly worryingly I also spoke to several people who insisted it's not, and never was, possible to get infected by an NPC and you had to buy it from the crown store or get a bite from someone who bought it from the crown store. Of course they claimed that meant you should pay for bites because it's not fair to get it for free when someone else had to pay. Some of them apparently didn't know it had been possible to be a vamp or werewolf before the bites were added to the store (and some didn't know there was a time when the crown store didn't exist), others just told me I was lying about that to try and scam free bites.

DarkPicture · February 2020

Sounds like l2p issue

Katahdin · February 2020

Lol

NO

Sylvermynx · February 2020

Danikat wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

Considering the ability for players to bite players has been in the game since launch and the crown store option allowing you to bypass that element of gameplay (and yes, in a multiplayer game cooperating with other people counts as playing the game) which so offends the OP was added in response to players asking for an easier option that's the one which should be removed.

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes, we should be able to get bites by playing the game. But that would require vampires and werewolves to be actually infectious - which they aren't. I dare you to go to Camlorn and get bitten from Faolchu. Too easy, you say? Okay then, go to March of Sacrifices and get bitten by Balorgh. Then come back and tell us how it worked to you.

They are, you just need to get the right werewolves or blood fiends. (No idea why the ones that turn you into a vampire aren't called vampires). They're in Bangkorai, Reaper's March and The Rift, but only on certain nights. It used to be linked to the phases of the moon (in game) but isn't any more for some reason.

Oh, I must have read an older version then. A good IRL friend actually got accidentally infected by a blood fiend in The Rift (IIRC), and has chosen to continue to play as a vampire on that character. She hasn't had any luck finding a were yet for a different character.

Oddly enough I had the opposite problem. I decided I wanted to get a character infected by a bloodfiend and went looking for them (in Reaper's March) and found infectious werewolves on 3 or 4 different nights before I saw any bloodfiends. Although I couldn't be in-game during every night because a day in ESO is something like 6 hours long, and I still had to work, sleep and do other things so I assume I just had terrible luck and kept missing the bloodfiends.

Slightly worryingly I also spoke to several people who insisted it's not, and never was, possible to get infected by an NPC and you had to buy it from the crown store or get a bite from someone who bought it from the crown store. Of course they claimed that meant you should pay for bites because it's not fair to get it for free when someone else had to pay. Some of them apparently didn't know it had been possible to be a vamp or werewolf before the bites were added to the store (and some didn't know there was a time when the crown store didn't exist), others just told me I was lying about that to try and scam free bites.

Ouch. My sister and nephew (as well as my daughter and younger granddaughter) all were in the open beta, and while daughter/granddaughter weren't (and still aren't) interested in TES (unlike me), sis and nephew played for a couple of years, and have returned off and on since.

Sister and nephew both got bites early on (during the moon phase in game situation most likely); daughter/granddaughter didn't play long enough (and neither care for that sort of "change" in any case - like me). So with the IRL friend now having done the same, seems as if it must still be a fairly common thing.

idk · February 2020

pompusnord wrote: »

The fact that the very first person could not sit in a zone begging to get bit and had to go play the game proves my point to everyone in this thread trying to defend their argument with Bites have been in the game since launch or the crown store. Not too mention you couldn't even get to WW/VAMP until you hit level 50 (Which was at that time end game content)

You cannot use bites always having been in the game as a counter argument without the frist bunch of people had to actually work to get it and was not handed to them.

If you don't buy it from the crown store you're stealing money from Zeinmax (It does not matter if Zenimax did that to themselves) using other players means you want everything haned to you and don't want to play the gamer and do any actual work.

Either way you're all trolls trying to make excuses to ignore the issue.

There was never a requirement that a player be level 50 to become a vampire or WW. I became vampire when the game was less than 2 weeks old and was not near lvl 50. Also, the vampire/WW bites were in a zone that is below lvl 50.

Next, that crown store sells bites is irrelevant as this game did not have a crown store at launch. It is also false to say they are stealing from Zos when it is how Zos designed it. Stick with facts instead of these fabrications.

Granted, you do not like seeing people ask for bites. You are entitled to that opinion but it is a personal issue that you will have to find a way to deal with yourself. Zos is not going to change the design they wanted over such flawed reasoning.

Thevampirenight · February 2020

I can support them removing the conditions from the crown store plus the cure especially the cure since lol its like 800 gold in game by going to an npc in the mages guild in Bangkorai, Reapers March and The Rift. Cure shouldn't have been there to begin with.

But I do not support the removal of players being able to give other players bites. Plus the uproar over this would be legendary. Its a very bad idea one of the worst I've ever seen. Because being bit by a player is the only real reliable way to get either condition. The Npcs are the worst way. Why the spawn times for the npcs are horrible and if you kill them they don't re spawn that is why I have never been able to get it from an npc version only by players.

Iarao · February 2020

Sylvermynx wrote: »

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes, we should be able to get bites by playing the game. But that would require vampires and werewolves to be actually infectious - which they aren't. I dare you to go to Camlorn and get bitten from Faolchu. Too easy, you say? Okay then, go to March of Sacrifices and get bitten by Balorgh. Then come back and tell us how it worked to you.

Well, some are IIRC - have to be a specific moon phase/time, and specific NPC weres and blood fiends, right?

i ahve gotten bitten by some random npc and had to go pay to get rid of it.

bearbelly · February 2020

Having players bite you at a shrine is one aspect of playing the game.
Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean that it needs to be removed.

And it won't be. So get over yourself.

Sylvermynx · February 2020

Iarao wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Yes, we should be able to get bites by playing the game. But that would require vampires and werewolves to be actually infectious - which they aren't. I dare you to go to Camlorn and get bitten from Faolchu. Too easy, you say? Okay then, go to March of Sacrifices and get bitten by Balorgh. Then come back and tell us how it worked to you.

Well, some are IIRC - have to be a specific moon phase/time, and specific NPC weres and blood fiends, right?

i ahve gotten bitten by some random npc and had to go pay to get rid of it.

Yep. So did my friend (get bitten I mean). She chose to go with the flow, and keep vampirism. Each to her own!

Iarao · February 2020

Thevampirenight wrote: »

I can support them removing the conditions from the crown store plus the cure especially the cure since lol its like 800 gold in game by going to an npc in the mages guild in Bangkorai, Reapers March and The Rift. Cure shouldn't have been there to begin with.

But I do not support the removal of players being able to give other players bites. Plus the uproar over this would be legendary. Its a very bad idea one of the worst I've ever seen. Because being bit by a player is the only real reliable way to get either condition. The Npcs are the worst way. Why the spawn times for the npcs are horrible and if you kill them they don't re spawn that is why I have never been able to get it from an npc version only by players.

and back in the day when bites were like 20k guilds would send people to camp the spawn spot of the npc and kill it so no one could get a free bite that way.