Remove the ability for players to bite (Both WW and Vamp)

Yellow_Monolith

Any chance of a werewolf bite? ^^

Unseelie

Another classic thread in the making i see. Actually made it to two stars with this account too.

pompusnord

idk wrote: »

There was never a requirement that a player be level 50 to become a vampire or WW. I became vampire when the game was less than 2 weeks old and was not near lvl 50. Also, the vampire/WW bites were in a zone that is below lvl 50.

Except the first person to get infected once the game was actually out kills that entire comment, It was impossible to access Werewolves and Vampires without being level 50 as they were only on the level 50 side of the game which. So saying it was never a requirement to be level 50 to become one, is absolutely false.

idk wrote: »

Next, that crown store sells bites is irrelevant as this game did not have a crown store at launch. It is also false to say they are stealing from Zos when it is how Zos designed it. Stick with facts instead of these fabrications.

They're selling it now and that is all that counts and matters. Stealing is taking something for free that has a payment attached to it. Learn what the definition of Stealing is before replying with such ludicrous claims of it's fabricated.

idk wrote: »

Granted, you do not like seeing people ask for bites. You are entitled to that opinion but it is a personal issue that you will have to find a way to deal with yourself. Zos is not going to change the design they wanted over such flawed reasoning.

That is irrelevant to spamming chat is against the code of conduct. And just to cut off anyone that wants to argue about that, nowhere is spam defined as being restricted to a single individual nor is there any related time limit to when something has to be posted before it's considered spam. 1multiple people saying the same related thing over and over again in chat is still spam.

pompusnord

idk wrote: »

There was never a requirement that a player be level 50 to become a vampire or WW. I became vampire when the game was less than 2 weeks old and was not near lvl 50. Also, the vampire/WW bites were in a zone that is below lvl 50.

Except the first person to get infected once the game was actually out kills that entire comment, It was impossible to access Werewolves and Vampires without being level 50 as they were only on the level 50 side of the game which. So saying it was never a requirement to be level 50 to become one, is absolutely false.

idk wrote: »

Next, that crown store sells bites is irrelevant as this game did not have a crown store at launch. It is also false to say they are stealing from Zos when it is how Zos designed it. Stick with facts instead of these fabrications.

They're selling it now and that is all that counts and matters. Stealing is taking something for free that has a payment attached to it. Learn what the definition of Stealing is before replying with such ludicrous claims of it's fabricated.

idk wrote: »

Granted, you do not like seeing people ask for bites. You are entitled to that opinion but it is a personal issue that you will have to find a way to deal with yourself. Zos is not going to change the design they wanted over such flawed reasoning.

What anyone likes/dislikes is irrelevant to the fact that spamming the chat is against the code of conduct. And just to cut off anyone that wants to argue about that, nowhere is spam defined as being restricted to a single individual nor is there any related time limit to when something has to be posted before it's considered spam. 1multiple people saying the same related thing over and over again in chat, is still spam.

Nordic__Knights

Lol this has been great read guys and gals but OP please stop this bs as one of the 1st vamps on ps4 day 1 lvl 16 at that time im glade i get to bite others as fresh blood gives me an chance to feel re born each time i bite someone and if anything zos is the one stealing from the players with their added scroll bites as it came like an year or more after game over players crying that bites was being sold by other players not just gave out freely so again your handout statement only come around once zos added Scrolls because players would just buy them with free crowns over paying another player to bite them but then again i dont expect an new player to understand how somethings came about in game

Bobby_V_Rockit

pompusnord wrote: »

idk wrote: »

There was never a requirement that a player be level 50 to become a vampire or WW. I became vampire when the game was less than 2 weeks old and was not near lvl 50. Also, the vampire/WW bites were in a zone that is below lvl 50.

Except the first person to get infected once the game was actually out kills that entire comment, It was impossible to access Werewolves and Vampires without being level 50 as they were only on the level 50 side of the game which. So saying it was never a requirement to be level 50 to become one, is absolutely false.

idk wrote: »

Next, that crown store sells bites is irrelevant as this game did not have a crown store at launch. It is also false to say they are stealing from Zos when it is how Zos designed it. Stick with facts instead of these fabrications.

They're selling it now and that is all that counts and matters. Stealing is taking something for free that has a payment attached to it. Learn what the definition of Stealing is before replying with such ludicrous claims of it's fabricated.

idk wrote: »

Granted, you do not like seeing people ask for bites. You are entitled to that opinion but it is a personal issue that you will have to find a way to deal with yourself. Zos is not going to change the design they wanted over such flawed reasoning.

What anyone likes/dislikes is irrelevant to the fact that spamming the chat is against the code of conduct. And just to cut off anyone that wants to argue about that, nowhere is spam defined as being restricted to a single individual nor is there any related time limit to when something has to be posted before it's considered spam. 1multiple people saying the same related thing over and over again in chat, is still spam.

Wut? Its not stealing to get a bloodfiend to bite you lol. Stealing is taking something you dont own without permission, the crown store bite just meant that you could choose not to search for bloodfiends or player bites. And you could go to any area on the map before you got to level 50, was just hard to stay alive, I did it myself, died a lot in Greenshade on the way

Thevampirenight

What your wanting them to do is remove something that has been in the game for many years. Just because people are asking for bites in Zonechat. Get use to it because many like to become vampires or lycanthropes and that requires waiting and sometimes you can find someone willing to bite you from zone chat but I do tend to ask after reaching one of the shrines. Or go ask for someone in a guild I'm in if they have one. Some might ask in other zones but I tend to only ask in he zones that have the shrines.

Also if they did this and only can be granted by npcs or crownstore it will basically be a pay to win situation and also the uproar about it would be the most intense. Many might even rage quit over it or unsub or never give them money ever again. So no they are not going to remove it especially not now with an entire chapter that is dealing with witches, vampires and lycanthropes. Doubtful they ever will ever remove the player ability to grant it. Also they are reworking the vampire quest and they went to all that trouble to do this. Crownstore you can skip the quest all together. That is another reason why they are not going to remove the ability for players to pass it on. As they know its the main way players are able to become a vampire or lycanthropes is through other players.
I think the crownstore is for those that want to skip the quest or new players that don't know any better.

Players on purpose kill the mobs so players can't get infected by Npcs and they can't respawn either so that is another big issue. That is why getting it from other players is the most used method because in reality it might be the only method with the way the system is set up. Because players will deprive others from getting it from npcs. That is one issue I think they should fix or at least make them able to respawn or make them essential and unable to be killed. That could be another fix they can do give them guard like immunity.

starkerealm

pompusnord wrote: »

idk wrote: »

There was never a requirement that a player be level 50 to become a vampire or WW. I became vampire when the game was less than 2 weeks old and was not near lvl 50. Also, the vampire/WW bites were in a zone that is below lvl 50.

Except the first person to get infected once the game was actually out kills that entire comment, It was impossible to access Werewolves and Vampires without being level 50 as they were only on the level 50 side of the game which. So saying it was never a requirement to be level 50 to become one, is absolutely false.

My low level werewolf record back at launch was level 12. Low level vampires were easier, though I never ran a sub-20 character through that back in the day.

The Vampire and Werewolf quests were fixed at level 38, and the XP progression for Vampire was synced with the climb from 40-50, so the implication was that you were expected to get infected at level 40, and then by the time you hit 50, you'd be Vampire 10.

pompusnord wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Next, that crown store sells bites is irrelevant as this game did not have a crown store at launch. It is also false to say they are stealing from Zos when it is how Zos designed it. Stick with facts instead of these fabrications.

They're selling it now and that is all that counts and matters. Stealing is taking something for free that has a payment attached to it. Learn what the definition of Stealing is before replying with such ludicrous claims of it's fabricated.

No, the legal definition of stealing is a little more nuanced than that. In this case, it's not theft because the player infection mechanic is an intended system. It's also not theft because you don't own anything on your account. Seriously, it's not yours. It belongs to Zenimax, and they're authorizing you to access it.

pompusnord wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Granted, you do not like seeing people ask for bites. You are entitled to that opinion but it is a personal issue that you will have to find a way to deal with yourself. Zos is not going to change the design they wanted over such flawed reasoning.

That is irrelevant to spamming chat is against the code of conduct. And just to cut off anyone that wants to argue about that, nowhere is spam defined as being restricted to a single individual nor is there any related time limit to when something has to be posted before it's considered spam. 1multiple people saying the same related thing over and over again in chat is still spam.

The GMs will determine what is, or is not, spam in game. Contrary to popular belief, judging by a few recent posts, the GMs do, in fact, still exist.

Tsar_Gekkou

We know you're mad about the Iceheart nerf, but posting nonsense won't make it all better.

marten_philip

Vampires and wolves are known mythical creatures that infect one another by biting.
It's only normal you should be able to infect another player and guess what! you can only do so once every 7-days and only when you've invested an extra skill point, so it ain't that big a deal but you're probably just trolling.

kargen27

"It was impossible to access Werewolves and Vampires without being level 50 as they were only on the level 50 side of the game which. So saying it was never a requirement to be level 50 to become one, is absolutely false."

You do realize there are three zones to get a bite? One for each faction and if you didn't care about levels you could go to those zones in your faction any time you wanted. If you can show me anything official that shows vampire or werewolf bites from NPCs being locked behind a specific level I'll send you 100k gold in game if we are on the same server.

MercilessnVexed

pompusnord wrote: »

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Either way you're all trolls trying to make excuses to ignore the issue.

OMG a whole page of trolls! *gasp* How can this be so! Surely not!

Dude. Relax. Chill. Take a break from the game, take a breather, something. If chat bothers you this much in THIS game though, I suggest you take up knitting or something really tame. Maybe go ride some horses - generally they don't chat much and they rarely "talk back" to you.

zaria

max_only wrote: »

Primarily, You can get the bites from npcs. Selling them on crown store was secondary.

And bad practice.
No issue with selling content or cosmetic, you have to get money.

However selling bites who is free in any guilds or even selling cures who cost some hundred gold.
That is scamming noobs
Noobs you hope having eso+ up for years and buy lots of stuff, well being scammed might scare them.
Also I believe obviously scamming is an bannable offence.

Bites tend to be free as an backlash against groups camping on vampire an WW spawn points to sell expensive bites back at the start of the game however as soon as the number bitten reached an critical mass guilds used free bites as an recruitment tool

How about selling stuff people will be happy to pay for like more furnishing slots in small houses or more hairs

Sylvermynx

Beastygrowls wrote: »

pompusnord wrote: »

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Either way you're all trolls trying to make excuses to ignore the issue.

OMG a whole page of trolls! *gasp* How can this be so! Surely not!

Dude. Relax. Chill. Take a break from the game, take a breather, something. If chat bothers you this much in THIS game though, I suggest you take up knitting or something really tame. Maybe go ride some horses - generally they don't chat much and they rarely "talk back" to you.

Eh.... OP hasn't been playing long it seems. Doesn't look like "taking a breather" is going to help.

I repeat - look at OP's post/comment history.

idk

pompusnord wrote: »

idk wrote: »

There was never a requirement that a player be level 50 to become a vampire or WW. I became vampire when the game was less than 2 weeks old and was not near lvl 50. Also, the vampire/WW bites were in a zone that is below lvl 50.

Except the first person to get infected once the game was actually out kills that entire comment, It was impossible to access Werewolves and Vampires without being level 50 as they were only on the level 50 side of the game which. So saying it was never a requirement to be level 50 to become one, is absolutely false.

Not at all. All this demonstrates is a lack of understanding of the game before 1T or what was needed to get a WW/Vamp bite from an NPC or player for that matter.

First of all, the three zones for betting NPC bites and for biting other players was about mid lvl 30s to maybe low lvl 40s but one could actually get there before lvl 40 by traveling to another player or just riding a mount to it.

No lvl 50

My first vampire was mid 30s and my second vampire was not even lvl 20. So your suggestion that it was impossible to access WW or vampire is completely false. And you saying that my comment to the contrary is false just shows a lack of knowledge of how things really were. Heck, the NPCs in the quest were far below lvl 50.

It helps that when you tell someone they are false to actually be correct and in this case you were not even close. It would be interesting to see where you got this incorrect information as it is not even close to how it was.

Do not take my word for it. On the site I am linking just below this a commenter named Victor made a post May 2014 explaining they finished the quest at lvl 10. It took them 2 hours to get the 10 kills which would have been due to their low level. 10 kills would be for the vampire quest..

https://teso.mmorpg-life.com/become-vampire-eso/

Enjoy the game. Maybe turn off zone chat from time to time.

starkerealm

idk wrote: »

First of all, the three zones for betting NPC bites and for biting other players was about mid lvl 30s to maybe low lvl 40s but one could actually get there before lvl 40 by traveling to another player or just riding a mount to it.

Going from memory, they were 36-44. Maybe 37-44. Somewhere in there.

idk

https://teso.mmorpg-life.com/become-vampire-eso/

starkerealm wrote: »

idk wrote: »

First of all, the three zones for betting NPC bites and for biting other players was about mid lvl 30s to maybe low lvl 40s but one could actually get there before lvl 40 by traveling to another player or just riding a mount to it.

Going from memory, they were 36-44. Maybe 37-44. Somewhere in there.

Thx for that confirmation that this old man's memory can still get something right from time to time. But yes, there was never a lvl 50 barrier to get WW/Vamp.

Hippie4927

I think the OP sits around all day trying to think up the best troll posts he/she can. When I see his/her name, I know it's going to be a doozy.

Golden_Cat

Someone need to put this here for the OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLpeX4RRo28

Nova Sky

It's a deliberate bait thread, ladies and gentlemen.

We ought to all be aware of how this works by now — someone deliberately throws a rock at the hornet's nest, then runs for cover while the angry swarm descends on a nearby picnic. It's a story older than the Bible, just updated for our online- and social media-centric lives.

M_Volsung

Oh bloody hell... not this sack of doorknobs again.

Nordic__Knights

idk wrote: »

pompusnord wrote: »

idk wrote: »

There was never a requirement that a player be level 50 to become a vampire or WW. I became vampire when the game was less than 2 weeks old and was not near lvl 50. Also, the vampire/WW bites were in a zone that is below lvl 50.

Except the first person to get infected once the game was actually out kills that entire comment, It was impossible to access Werewolves and Vampires without being level 50 as they were only on the level 50 side of the game which. So saying it was never a requirement to be level 50 to become one, is absolutely false.

Not at all. All this demonstrates is a lack of understanding of the game before 1T or what was needed to get a WW/Vamp bite from an NPC or player for that matter.

First of all, the three zones for betting NPC bites and for biting other players was about mid lvl 30s to maybe low lvl 40s but one could actually get there before lvl 40 by traveling to another player or just riding a mount to it.

No lvl 50

My first vampire was mid 30s and my second vampire was not even lvl 20. So your suggestion that it was impossible to access WW or vampire is completely false. And you saying that my comment to the contrary is false just shows a lack of knowledge of how things really were.

It helps that when you tell someone they are false to actually be correct and in this case you were not even close.

Do not take my word for it. On the site I am linking just below this a commenter named Victor made a post May 2014 explaining they finished the quest at lvl 10. It took them 2 hours to get the 10 kills which would have been due to their low level. 10 kills would be for the vampire quest..

https://teso.mmorpg-life.com/become-vampire-eso/

I remember it taking me 2 or 3 deaths each kill as the vampires were twice my lvl and very hard to kill at close rang after feeding on them like we had to back then not just kill

Sephyr

For those talking about spawns around various moon phases; It's been random for quite some time now (a long time rather). They no longer follow lunar cycles according to the literal thousands of thread of this very thing. The reason being is because people would track the cycles, camp the spawn locations of both werewolf and vampirism, and then profiteer on their ability to bite (upwards from 20k, highest I seen was 30k). Since the spawns are random, it makes it harder to track. It can take upwards of three to four days to spawn within that time frame, given the game clock is about 5-6 hours per 24 in game hours (give or take 15-20 minutes).

LadyDestiny

What? Lol

MattT1988

This is a fun thread.

starkerealm

Cactus316000 wrote: »

Any chance of a werewolf bite? ^^

I'd offer you one, but I'm not on PS4.

JamieAubrey

Back in my day I had to wait for the bloodfiends to spawn or spent mass amounts of gold for a bite

Ryath_Waylander

STOP feeding the troll

starkerealm

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Back in my day I had to wait for the bloodfiends to spawn or spent mass amounts of gold for a bite

Back in my day, we rode the trolls through the snow, and it was uphill both ways.

Vicinia

pompusnord wrote: »

Seriously why do you have the scrolls for vampire and werewolf in the crown store then allow players to bypass that for free? You need to remove players being able to infect other players as well as the crown store scrolls and make people go play the game and quit allowing them to have everything handed to them for free. AIso, isn't allowing that theft? I can bet that if someone found a way to hand off instant research scrolls, or some other aspects like that, you would stop that.

And to all the players who will jump on defending bites it does bother me, because I have to read the constant spam in the chat every 5-10 minutes. And no I won't shut the chat off or block anyone because none of you should be spamming the chat with that absurdity.

How about go play the game and quit begging. I am also not interested in people who say things like "I already played the game since beta" or my favorite lame excuse "Zenimax allows it".

If someone got free crowns and access to the crafting bags every month without having to use ESO+ you can bet everyone that will argue with me about this, would have a problem with free crowns and Crafting bags....

If people can keep getting bites for free instead of playing and buying them from the crown store, then people who don't sub should be given the same access to ESO + for free as well. Same exact concept. If you want to say bites are part of the game and people get them for free and without doing any work, then I can say ESO + is part of the game and non-subscribers should be handed it for free without doing any work or having to pay for it.

😂🤣