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Should the changes to Ice Heart be Reverted?
Alienoutlaw
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plz see this thread Here
Edited by Alienoutlaw on February 4, 2020 12:21AM Should the changes to Ice Heart be Reverted? 346 votes
Yes
91%
315 votes
No
8%
31 votes
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YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesAbsolutely yes! Combat team must have been dipping into the Skooma when they thought of this change.13 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesThe Iceheart set is already only niche useful in it's way. The changes will make it useless, which is what happens half the time with these nerfs. Maybe that's to push the new set, but this isn't the way to do it. But if it goes live, then it's just another dead set in ZoS' long list of dead sets.-- @xaraan --
nightblade: Xaraan • templar: Xaraan-dar • dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus • necromancer: Xaraan-qa • warden: Xaraanodon • sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
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Alienoutlaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yesplease divert all comments to the thread linked this is just a poll
thanks in advance0 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesDon't tell me what to do.
J/K, seriously though, if people don't comment sometimes, the thread will die b/c it will never be bumped. I commented at both places.-- @xaraan --
nightblade: Xaraan • templar: Xaraan-dar • dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus • necromancer: Xaraan-qa • warden: Xaraanodon • sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not sure what was expected in a poll like this. Maybe try a poll that ask about reverting all nerfs handed down over the past year.0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesYou sacrifice damage for survivability. It’s never been BiS but was a solid option for no death runs (especially in trials).
These nerfs make it a bad set. In particular, changing the cooldown from 6 to 12 seconds. So yeah.... will be storing my Iceheart sets on a pack mule if these changes go through. Another bad set7 -
Alienoutlaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesNot sure what was expected in a poll like this. Maybe try a poll that ask about reverting all nerfs handed down over the past year.
i wanted a visual aid to help get the point across about how angry players are with the change, a picture speaks a 1000 words and all thats and faster than actually reading the what will be 1000's of comments3 -
Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesIt needed a buff or to be left alone. Instead they made a somewhat similar worse set then brought Iceheart down to it.7 -
RaptorRodeoGod✭✭✭✭✭YesMaybe if Brands of Imperium and Phoenix were as useful as Iceheart, people would actually use them.Add a Scribing skill that works like Arcanist beam.
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Veteran players have been alienated and disengaged from Overland since One Tamriel, due to the lack of difficulty, and pushed into dungeons and trials; the minority of content in the Elder Scrolls Online. We can't take the repetition anymore, fix Overland engagement for Vet players. I don't even care if it's not combat related anymore, just make Overland engaging again.
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Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 10 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. Make a self debuff mythic. Literally anything at this point.10 -
TheUndeadAmulet✭✭✭✭✭YesIf ZOS wants to keep any remaining goodwill with players, they are definitely going to need to revert the change to iceheart. Honestly, I don't use iceheart, but if this targetted hard nerf of a set that was balanced before is anything to go by, I don't think I can trust ZOS to make many good changes to the game in the future.XBOX NA 1000+ CP
PC NA 400+ CP
nerf ping please3 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesIt's a monster set ...
1. It already has a cooldown of 6 secs but,
2. it has a proc chance of 20%
3. it work only with crits, so it is a 20% chance ON A CRIT!!
4. it does lower dmg
5. it's the only frost dmg mosnter set
6. The shield is even weaker than Combat Physician, a set much easier to proc
7. The shield is even weaker than the one given by infused + torugs + shield glyph + any staff
8. The shield is weaker than parabellum's which costs just 10 secs of not getting dmg
9. the shield and dmg are MUCH weaker than phoenix, which cost a couple casts of equilibrium/MO/expunge
And I haven't even mentioned Imperium, Whitestrake's Retribution, Ursus, Undaunted Bastion or Hatchling shell...Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique9 -
chrightt✭✭✭✭YesIt’s not as if iceheart is OP. Sure, it is really strong as a defensive set in PVE for DPS but people don’t even run it for pvp (at least not a lot if any). The new set needs to be tuned up rather than iceheart getting nerfed.5 -
fred4✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesI tried it years ago. It was lacklustre at best. We should have kept our mouths shut about that other new set, eh?1 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesI tried it years ago. It was lacklustre at best. We should have kept our mouths shut about that other new set, eh?
No feedback seems to be better than honest feedback, or at least it is what I've understood from these decisions.
the development team looks like a headless chickenSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique9 -
Xorsius✭✭YesThe Iceheart set is pretty niche, mainly for solo players and sacrificing damage for survivability. I would be fine with a partial nerf (Like removing the damage entirely and/or transferring that to the new DLC set), but this triple whammy we've gotten? NO.8
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MashmalloMan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesI've never seen the forums this unanimous about anything.
Can we get this many people fighting about removing custom scaling gamepad UI because they broke it and couldn't be bothered to fix it. Ridiculous...13 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesMashmalloMan wrote: »I've never seen the forums this unanimous about anything.
Can we get this many people fighting about removing custom scaling gamepad UI because they broke it and couldn't be bothered to fix it. Ridiculous...
It's so true.
Literally no one was asking for an iceheart nerf.
Not pvp'ers
Not pve'ers
Whut The F just happened?8 -
T08145✭✭Iceheart was not that good. I can't imagine taking iceheart over zaan, illambris, slimecraw, or skoria for general use in PvE and dungeons. The only time you would use it is for clearing VMA at low CP.
Even after the buff to 5000, the new Ciannait set is dumpster tier. Leave iceheart alone.7 -
Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
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What I was going to say, really surprised to see so many people against this nerf. We usually can't agree on anything.MashmalloMan wrote: »I've never seen the forums this unanimous about anything.
Can we get this many people fighting about removing custom scaling gamepad UI because they broke it and couldn't be bothered to fix it. Ridiculous...
And fix the damn gamepad UI for Shor's sake.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.0
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