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Zenimax stop leaving out requirements.

pompusnord
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Where is the list of requirements in order to join this

Example is ESO + needed?

I mean post a requirement list.
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    Are you talking about testing on the PTS or something else? There are no requirements to play on the PTS other than you have to have a PC account, then DL the PTS which adds to drive space requirements for that.

    For that Zos has a handy dandy support page (and it is probably noted elsewhere). Hope link below helps. If not please add detail of what you are talking about.

    https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/20663/~/how-do-i-join-the-public-test-server-(pts)?
  • pompusnord
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    Why bother replying when you are just purposely ignoring the importance of my question and the valid reason I asked it.
  • Raisin
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    Why bother replying when you are just purposely ignoring the importance of my question and the valid reason I asked it.

    Because that person literally linked you to the article that answers your question, which you claim doesn't exist. They were just slightly slower than the first person to link you to it, and faster than me (who was also gonna link you to that same article).
    Edited by Raisin on January 29, 2020 6:06AM
  • pompusnord
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    Raisin wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    Why bother replying when you are just purposely ignoring the importance of my question and the valid reason I asked it.

    Because that person literally linked you to the article that answers your question, which you claim doesn't exist. They were just slightly slower than the first person to link you to it, and faster than me (who was also gonna link you to that same article).

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    m blocking you now because all you are doing is trolling and totally ignoring the actual question I asked along the reason I asked it, then putting your own illogical points to to to justify your inane comments So let me clue you in on some details that seem to elude you.

    Nowhere in that link DOES IT SAY THAT ESO + is not needed. Just because it isn't listed does not mean it isn't needed because companies like Zenimax would leaves details like that out using the assumption everyone just as ESO +, and use that as a reason why it wasn't listed.

    As you can see your reply has no relevance to my question, or the reason i asked it. Again you're now on ignore
  • pompusnord
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    Since I cannot edit the above post, I forgot to add this:

    If there is no actual ignore/block function on the forum, I will just not pay any attention to any further posts you make.
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    Since I cannot edit the above post, I forgot to add this:

    If there is no actual ignore/block function on the forum, I will just not pay any attention to any further posts you make.

    :lol::lol: is this the real life? is this just fantasy?
  • Raisin
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    Why bother replying when you are just purposely ignoring the importance of my question and the valid reason I asked it.

    Because that person literally linked you to the article that answers your question, which you claim doesn't exist. They were just slightly slower than the first person to link you to it, and faster than me (who was also gonna link you to that same article).

    O
    m blocking you now because all you are doing is trolling and totally ignoring the actual question I asked along the reason I asked it, then putting your own illogical points to to to justify your inane comments So let me clue you in on some details that seem to elude you.

    Nowhere in that link DOES IT SAY THAT ESO + is not needed. Just because it isn't listed does not mean it isn't needed because companies like Zenimax would leaves details like that out using the assumption everyone just as ESO +, and use that as a reason why it wasn't listed.

    As you can see your reply has no relevance to my question, or the reason i asked it. Again you're now on ignore

    Yeah ESO+ isn't needed. You also don't need to own every single physical collector's edition of the game, or a herd of purple monkeys. You want them to put that in too? It's a list of REQUIREMENTS, not a list of things that AREN'T required. Generally the former is based on the implication that there are no hidden requirements, and you can trust what is listed.

    "The Public Test Server (PTS) can only be accessed by PC/Mac players with an active ESO account."
    You asked for a list of requirements. People explained it to you and gave you the official list: Own an active PC/Mac Account, Download PTS.

    What the *** kind of drug-induced toddler tantrum is this. You're out here viciously attacking the people answering your question like you got rabies or something.
    Edited by Raisin on January 29, 2020 6:19AM
  • Akinos
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    pompusnord talking like they had too much mead to drink tonight lmao.
    Edited by Akinos on January 29, 2020 6:21AM
    PC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp
  • idk
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    Since I cannot edit the above post, I forgot to add this:

    If there is no actual ignore/block function on the forum, I will just not pay any attention to any further posts you make.

    There is an ignore function. It is available when you edit your profile.

    However, all they and myself have tried to do is offer some help based on the limited information posted in the OP/title. We can only assume you are trying to access the PTS since this thread is in that section and you did not bother to explain yourself. The sum of the title and body of the OP are extremely vague.

    So, maybe add some details. You can edit the OP by clicking on the gear symbol somewhere around the title line.
  • pompusnord
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    idk wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    Since I cannot edit the above post, I forgot to add this:

    If there is no actual ignore/block function on the forum, I will just not pay any attention to any further posts you make.

    There is an ignore function. It is available when you edit your profile.

    However, all they and myself have tried to do is offer some help based on the limited information posted in the OP/title. We can only assume you are trying to access the PTS since this thread is in that section and you did not bother to explain yourself. The sum of the title and body of the OP are extremely vague.

    So, maybe add some details. You can edit the OP by clicking on the gear symbol somewhere around the title line.

    Like the total lack of details on editing topics as well as an ignore list, there are details that are always left out of entrance access to things like PTS. As I said above the devs usually write the page out with assuming the player reading it has the understanding they do which is a bad idea.

    The fact that I had to ask if ESO + was needed, as well as commenting on the no ignore and edit feature PROVES the whole point on me making this topic. Eso+ is needed for alll DLC without buying it outright and the fact that what's in the PTS is in fact DLC makes what i said totally legitimate.
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    troll post is troll post

    please lock this thread already
  • Raisin
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    Since I cannot edit the above post, I forgot to add this:

    If there is no actual ignore/block function on the forum, I will just not pay any attention to any further posts you make.

    There is an ignore function. It is available when you edit your profile.

    However, all they and myself have tried to do is offer some help based on the limited information posted in the OP/title. We can only assume you are trying to access the PTS since this thread is in that section and you did not bother to explain yourself. The sum of the title and body of the OP are extremely vague.

    So, maybe add some details. You can edit the OP by clicking on the gear symbol somewhere around the title line.

    Like the total lack of details on editing topics as well as an ignore list, there are details that are always left out of entrance access to things like PTS. As I said above the devs usually write the page out with assuming the player reading it has the understanding they do which is a bad idea.

    The fact that I had to ask if ESO + was needed, as well as commenting on the no ignore and edit feature PROVES the whole point on me making this topic. Eso+ is needed for alll DLC without buying it outright and the fact that what's in the PTS is in fact DLC makes what i said totally legitimate.

    Exept there aren't. You assumed that, and you were wrong. It would have been easy, instead of becoming hostile, to respond to your first nice helper with a "Oh I was worried there were hidden requirements, glad there aren't. Thank you". Boom, done.
    Your assumption that ESO+ would be needed was far-fetched and the devs couldn't have anticipated it, the same way they couldn't have anticipated that you don't have the internet experience to understand how editing a post in a basic forum layout works. At best you could have assumed that you wouldn't be able to access any DLC on PTS, but that doesn't change the fact that you got nice, proper answers and decided to be rude about it.
  • Runefang
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    Since I cannot edit the above post, I forgot to add this:

    If there is no actual ignore/block function on the forum, I will just not pay any attention to any further posts you make.

    There is an ignore function. It is available when you edit your profile.

    However, all they and myself have tried to do is offer some help based on the limited information posted in the OP/title. We can only assume you are trying to access the PTS since this thread is in that section and you did not bother to explain yourself. The sum of the title and body of the OP are extremely vague.

    So, maybe add some details. You can edit the OP by clicking on the gear symbol somewhere around the title line.

    Like the total lack of details on editing topics as well as an ignore list, there are details that are always left out of entrance access to things like PTS. As I said above the devs usually write the page out with assuming the player reading it has the understanding they do which is a bad idea.

    The fact that I had to ask if ESO + was needed, as well as commenting on the no ignore and edit feature PROVES the whole point on me making this topic. Eso+ is needed for alll DLC without buying it outright and the fact that what's in the PTS is in fact DLC makes what i said totally legitimate.

    Right..... to play the new DLC on the PTS you must in fact buy the DLC despite the fact it’s not even available for sale yet. Logical? Nope.
  • pompusnord
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    isoJs wrote: »
    There is a help section in the game, there might be some info for pvp. Cyrodiil tutorial quest giver is first npc who you see when you arrive in Cyrodiil.
    That's a terrbile design choice. I do not talk to quest givers in a new area I go into. A tutorial for Cyrodiil does not belong on an NPC in the form of a quest because a player has the possibility of skipping it due to their play style. Not wanting to pick up a quest such as myself becomes a problem there is nothing denoting it's an actual tutorial. People are acting like everyone must pick up every quest and cannot see how easily important things can be missed due to different people playing differently. Not everyone is going to talk to every quest giver they see for various reasons. and to act like someone is supposed to and it's their fault for missing the tutorial is dumb. It's the devs fault I missed the tutorial. and not because I didn't talk to an NPC quest giver. The game designer should deign the game with this type of situation and not from the I assume stance.

    The tutorial for Cyrodiil requires a player to actually know it's there (Which it doesn't) A real tutorial would be as follows, as soon as you enter Cyrodiil, the game freezes and a big pop up comes in the middle of the screen telling the player THIS IS THE TUTORIAL. and you cannot skip it until you go through it.

    This crap of placing things in game with assumptions and things a player can easily miss because the game designer didn't bother talking into account someone who plays the game the way I do.. is just a really bad design..

    In fact I bet that if i do go back into Cyrodiil and talked to every NPC there is I still wouldn't have a clue as to the tutorial.
    Edited by pompusnord on January 29, 2020 6:54AM
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    Edited by ManwithBeard9 on January 29, 2020 6:51AM
  • Skorro
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    Why bother replying when you are just purposely ignoring the importance of my question and the valid reason I asked it.

    Because that person literally linked you to the article that answers your question, which you claim doesn't exist. They were just slightly slower than the first person to link you to it, and faster than me (who was also gonna link you to that same article).

    O
    m blocking you now because all you are doing is trolling and totally ignoring the actual question I asked along the reason I asked it, then putting your own illogical points to to to justify your inane comments So let me clue you in on some details that seem to elude you.

    Nowhere in that link DOES IT SAY THAT ESO + is not needed. Just because it isn't listed does not mean it isn't needed because companies like Zenimax would leaves details like that out using the assumption everyone just as ESO +, and use that as a reason why it wasn't listed.

    As you can see your reply has no relevance to my question, or the reason i asked it. Again you're now on ignore

    Lol, who crapped in your cornflakes.

    Peeps answered you trying to help out and you throw a hissy fit 🙄
  • pompusnord
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    Skorro wrote: »
    Lol, who crapped in your cornflakes. Peeps answered you trying to help out and you throw a hissy fit 🙄
    I should also explain people that I also place people who defend trolls on ignore as well.
  • pompusnord
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    Interesting how all you did was paste the same exact link I did in the topic and ignored the REASON I made this topic to begin with.

    The issue isn' the link, the issue is is all the information someone needs in that link. If people cannot grasp the actual concept that a link to a page means nothing when all the information isn't given, and to not even read the reasoning I posted that comment means it's time to just start blocking people.

    Not going to bother with people who do not read the contents of a topic and ignore the reason it was created.
  • Skorro
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    Skorro wrote: »
    Lol, who crapped in your cornflakes. Peeps answered you trying to help out and you throw a hissy fit 🙄
    I should also explain people that I also place people who defend trolls on ignore as well.

    Whatever gets you through the day brah 😎
  • ManwithBeard9
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    pompusnord wrote: »

    Interesting how all you did was paste the same exact link I did in the topic and ignored the REASON I made this topic to begin with.

    The issue isn' the link, the issue is is all the information someone needs in that link. If people cannot grasp the actual concept that a link to a page means nothing when all the information isn't given, and to not even read the reasoning I posted that comment means it's time to just start blocking people.

    Not going to bother with people who do not read the contents of a topic and ignore the reason it was created.

    You are correct, all the information people need is in that link. Glad I could help.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    for someone who has just joined the Forum community you have a lot to learn about manners and how to conduct yourself in a polite way,
    pompusnord wrote: »
    Where is the list of requirements in order to join this

    Example is ESO + needed?

    I mean post a requirement list.

    you was helped by @idk by way of a link to answer your 1st question
    As the PTS is a testing server for new DLC that is yet to be available ESO+ would be pointless so is not listed as a requirement
    and in response to your final statement a simple search on your part could of given you the information you wanted without resorting to hostility.
    i sincerely hope future posts to be less........well just less.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    maybe try Roblox
  • psxfloh
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    I want to add:
    https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/20663/~/how-do-i-join-the-public-test-server-(pts)?

    Now please add me to your ignore list - in a few days you should have a pretty silent forum where you can constantly complain that no one answers your questions any more.

    And one more thing: if you accuse someone of being "uneducated" you should at least use punctuation in said accusation! :#
  • idk
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    Since I cannot edit the above post, I forgot to add this:

    If there is no actual ignore/block function on the forum, I will just not pay any attention to any further posts you make.

    There is an ignore function. It is available when you edit your profile.

    However, all they and myself have tried to do is offer some help based on the limited information posted in the OP/title. We can only assume you are trying to access the PTS since this thread is in that section and you did not bother to explain yourself. The sum of the title and body of the OP are extremely vague.

    So, maybe add some details. You can edit the OP by clicking on the gear symbol somewhere around the title line.

    Like the total lack of details on editing topics as well as an ignore list, there are details that are always left out of entrance access to things like PTS. As I said above the devs usually write the page out with assuming the player reading it has the understanding they do which is a bad idea.

    The fact that I had to ask if ESO + was needed, as well as commenting on the no ignore and edit feature PROVES the whole point on me making this topic. Eso+ is needed for alll DLC without buying it outright and the fact that what's in the PTS is in fact DLC makes what i said totally legitimate.

    Accessing the PTS for those on PC has never been complicated. The only new knowledge needed to access the PTS is how to DL is and then toggle between live and PTS servers. After that logging in is the same.

    For editing topics please look at the following link.
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/152598/how-to-edit-your-thread-first-post

    For adding people to your forum ignore list please use this link. https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23039/~/how-do-i-ignore-someone-on-the-elder-scrolls-online-forums?

    All that is really needed is to ask nicely. Do not even need to say please.

    Not sure why you feel the need to be so hostile towards those who offered help.
  • pompusnord
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    [Removed quote]

    I'll sum it up then
    Everyone who plays this game and on this forum full well knows that, this game has no instructions. Everyone also knows it's put together in such a manor that makes it impossible to play for a new person. Anyone who thinks putting an actual tutorial on an NPC in the forum of a quest, is a good idea is a fool, and proves they don't understand why doing that is a bad idea

    People who don't always talk to NPC's are going to miss important information (Such as what happened to me). But even still this situation shows that even knowing the NPC is the tutorial won't help. When a game designer knows there are people who won't talk to all NPC's, but disregards that play style, doesn't know what they're doing..The proper way to design a game is take into account all play styles, then program the game around that.

    Again I am going to go back into the game and Cyrodiil and see this so called NPC. I am willing to bet the tutorial is bad and reflects the mistake of putting the tutorial in the form of a quest on an NPC. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on January 29, 2020 2:29PM
  • Siohwenoeht
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    I'm certain @Raisin just won the thread. Lol

    As far as the op, you came in bothered by something, which was pointed out as a misunderstanding on your part, rather gently and respectfully.

    The only agenda I see being pushed is yours, which is somehow an amorphous ball of anger.
    "It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard
  • Raisin
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    isoJs wrote: »
    There is a help section in the game, there might be some info for pvp. Cyrodiil tutorial quest giver is first npc who you see when you arrive in Cyrodiil.
    That's a terrbile design choice. I do not talk to quest givers in a new area I go into. A tutorial for Cyrodiil does not belong on an NPC in the form of a quest because a player has the possibility of skipping it due to their play style. Not wanting to pick up a quest such as myself becomes a problem there is nothing denoting it's an actual tutorial. People are acting like everyone must pick up every quest and cannot see how easily important things can be missed due to different people playing differently. Not everyone is going to talk to every quest giver they see for various reasons. and to act like someone is supposed to and it's their fault for missing the tutorial is dumb. It's the devs fault I missed the tutorial. and not because I didn't talk to an NPC quest giver. The game designer should deign the game with this type of situation and not from the I assume stance.

    The tutorial for Cyrodiil requires a player to actually know it's there (Which it doesn't) A real tutorial would be as follows, as soon as you enter Cyrodiil, the game freezes and a big pop up comes in the middle of the screen telling the player THIS IS THE TUTORIAL. and you cannot skip it until you go through it.

    This crap of placing things in game with assumptions and things a player can easily miss because the game designer didn't bother talking into account someone who plays the game the way I do.. is just a really bad design..

    In fact I bet that if i do go back into Cyrodiil and talked to every NPC there is I still wouldn't have a clue as to the tutorial.

    So i can see from all of your posts here and what little sense i was able to make out of them, that we are not qualified to help you. I have thus decided to provide you with a link that i think might be able to help you. Simply click here.

    I'll sum it up then
    Everyone who plays this game and on this forum full well knows that, this game has no instructions. Everyone also knows it's put together in such a manor that makes it impossible to play for a new person. Anyone who thinks putting an actual tutorial on an NPC in the forum of a quest, is a good idea is a fool, and proves they don't understand why doing that is a bad idea

    People who don't always talk to NPC's are going to miss important information (Such as what happened to me). But even still this situation shows that even knowing the NPC is the tutorial won't help. When a game designer knows there are people who won't talk to all NPC's, but disregards that play style, doesn't know what they're doing..The proper way to design a game is take into account all play styles, then program the game around that.

    Again I am going to go back into the game and Cyrodiil and see this so called NPC. I am willing to bet the tutorial is bad and reflects the mistake of putting the tutorial in the form of a quest on an NPC. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

    So you want ZOS to accomodate your playstyle of not wanting to do tutorials, by forcibly locking your game into a tutorial mode forcing you to do it.... thus completely ruining the 'play how you want' concept which lets people choose to avoid hand-holdy tutorials and explore/learn things on their own instead. And you want to call it 'taking into account all playstyles'. :D

    We know you don't think you're wrong, but so far your track record doesn't exactly prove you right. Hell will freeze over before you're right about something or find the capability of realistically assessing anything.
    Edited by Raisin on January 29, 2020 7:38AM
  • psxfloh
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    Everyone who plays this game and on this forum full well knows that, this game has no instructions. Everyone also knows it's put together in such a manor that makes it impossible to play for a new person.

    Only because most content is ridiculously easy and can be done alone, it's not a single player game that has to take you by the hand an always point your nose in the right direction.

    It's an MMO, go online, ask around.. hell, that's how it was done "in the good ol' times"!
  • Alienoutlaw
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    pompusnord wrote: »
    pompusnord wrote: »
    isoJs wrote: »
    There is a help section in the game, there might be some info for pvp. Cyrodiil tutorial quest giver is first npc who you see when you arrive in Cyrodiil.
    That's a terrbile design choice. I do not talk to quest givers in a new area I go into. A tutorial for Cyrodiil does not belong on an NPC in the form of a quest because a player has the possibility of skipping it due to their play style. Not wanting to pick up a quest such as myself becomes a problem there is nothing denoting it's an actual tutorial. People are acting like everyone must pick up every quest and cannot see how easily important things can be missed due to different people playing differently. Not everyone is going to talk to every quest giver they see for various reasons. and to act like someone is supposed to and it's their fault for missing the tutorial is dumb. It's the devs fault I missed the tutorial. and not because I didn't talk to an NPC quest giver. The game designer should deign the game with this type of situation and not from the I assume stance.

    The tutorial for Cyrodiil requires a player to actually know it's there (Which it doesn't) A real tutorial would be as follows, as soon as you enter Cyrodiil, the game freezes and a big pop up comes in the middle of the screen telling the player THIS IS THE TUTORIAL. and you cannot skip it until you go through it.

    This crap of placing things in game with assumptions and things a player can easily miss because the game designer didn't bother talking into account someone who plays the game the way I do.. is just a really bad design..

    In fact I bet that if i do go back into Cyrodiil and talked to every NPC there is I still wouldn't have a clue as to the tutorial.

    So i can see from all of your posts here and what little sense i was able to make out of them, that we are not qualified to help you. I have thus decided to provide you with a link that i think might be able to help you. Simply click here.

    I'll sum it up then
    Everyone who plays this game and on this forum full well knows that, this game has no instructions. Everyone also knows it's put together in such a manor that makes it impossible to play for a new person. Anyone who thinks putting an actual tutorial on an NPC in the forum of a quest, is a good idea is a fool, and proves they don't understand why doing that is a bad idea

    People who don't always talk to NPC's are going to miss important information (Such as what happened to me). But even still this situation shows that even knowing the NPC is the tutorial won't help. When a game designer knows there are people who won't talk to all NPC's, but disregards that play style, doesn't know what they're doing..The proper way to design a game is take into account all play styles, then program the game around that.

    Again I am going to go back into the game and Cyrodiil and see this so called NPC. I am willing to bet the tutorial is bad and reflects the mistake of putting the tutorial in the form of a quest on an NPC. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

    to sum up your Summary
    Everyone who plays this game all started not knowing what to do, there is a tutorial quest that takes you through the skill bars and combat system, also there is tutorials for crafting and once you reach champion point level even one to help you with that. on the load screens there are hints and tips suggesting you speak to NCP's to find out more about the game.
    to suggest the Dev's are fools because the game does not fit your play style is arrogant in the least, by your own words you have stated you do not read quest text or the tutorials so your ignorance is self inflicted and to come here and demand we figure it out for you in the way that you have is insulting. i for one am not going to spoon feed your ego
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