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    Blaqk_EyeD wrote: »
    It's cheaper than a new game and contains more than a brand new game of content so it seems fair to me.
    Unfortunately for you, this year's Skyrim Chapter set around Solitude bears a striking resemblance to a game called Skyrim. I wouldn't want to compare content and costs :tongue: Nor visuals for that matter...
  • AlienatedGoat
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    My only complaint is that it wasn't $29.99 since it doesn't have a new class.
    • Morrowind - $39.99 - Warden class
    • Summerset - $29.99 - no new class
    • Elsweyr - $39.99 - Necro class
    • Greymoor - $39.99 - no new class
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  • Zulera301
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    it should be worth pointing out that $60AUD is about $41USD at the moment (thanks google), so Aussies really only be paying about a buck more. P=
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  • LoneStar2911
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    dinklehorn wrote: »
    Can someone clarify for me..I thought ESO+ gave you free access to DLC content after a year of release. Does that include the chapter release as well? I bought Elswyr because I thought my ESO+ only gave me DLC access like dark brotherhood. Am I misunderstanding DLC vs. chapter content?

    DLC? That's immediate. ESO Plus gives you immediate access to all DLC.
    If you mean Chapters... yes. Once another chapter is released, the one before it becomes available through ESO Plus.

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm fairly certain.
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    Amber322 wrote: »
    dinklehorn wrote: »
    Can someone clarify for me..I thought ESO+ gave you free access to DLC content after a year of release. Does that include the chapter release as well? I bought Elswyr because I thought my ESO+ only gave me DLC access like dark brotherhood. Am I misunderstanding DLC vs. chapter content?

    DLC? That's immediate. ESO Plus gives you immediate access to all DLC.
    If you mean Chapters... yes. Once another chapter is released, the one before it becomes available through ESO Plus.

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm fairly certain.

    Yes you're right, that's been the pattern thus far.

    Back when Morrowind was first announced, ZOS spun up that new word "Chapter" and summarily excluded it from the definition of "DLC" so that it'd be a separate purchase at release. But since Summerset, the older Chapter zone content is included in ESO+, with the notable exception of new classes, which are a separate purchase on the Crown store (due to logistical problems in locking characters behind a subscription).
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  • Nanfoodle
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    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.
  • LucyferLightbringer
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only it was a triple A quality....
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    I may be wrong but this is my understanding. You buy Chapters. With ESO+ all the DLC's within that chapter are free.

    When you subscribe to ESO+ AFTER you have been playing then all previous DLC's become available. I started playing and subscribed at the same time so everything was open to me at the start.
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    To be honest, this is the only chapter I don't feel like buying at day 1.
    Game is getting old, and while I still love it, I hardly play more than 10 hours per week.
    So yeah, I do agree, price tag is too high _for me_ , and luckily this chapter doesn't offer too many advantages if compared to those who won't buy it.

    I'll just wait until it goes on sale
  • Zer0_CooL
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    🤣🤣🤣🤣 what game are you playing bro?
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    dinklehorn wrote: »
    Can someone clarify for me..I thought ESO+ gave you free access to DLC content after a year of release. Does that include the chapter release as well? I bought Elswyr because I thought my ESO+ only gave me DLC access like dark brotherhood. Am I misunderstanding DLC vs. chapter content?

    I am sure someone has clarified this for you on the next page but it is simply that Zos has labeled this a chapter. The zone content and group content becomes part of a DLC a year later with some added value parts sometimes becoming crown purchase then.

    Basically it is a play on words and for the questing content no one has to buy the chapter. If they subscribe they will gain full access to the zone and it's quests a year later. If they do not subscribe and buy DLCs instead they can buy the DLC then as well.
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only it was a triple A quality....

    Lucy, if you do not like the quality why are you here? Seriously.

    By sales of copies of the game this MMORPG is on part with top MMORPGs like FFIV. Comments look rather petty in light of that.
  • Rezdayn
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    Eh...

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  • andreasv
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    idk wrote: »
    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only it was a triple A quality....

    Lucy, if you do not like the quality why are you here? Seriously.

    By sales of copies of the game this MMORPG is on part with top MMORPGs like FFIV. Comments look rather petty in light of that.

    It's called on par and I doubt Final Fantasy 4 was an MMO. XIV was though.
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    Why do i wish that Gordon Ramsay did game reviews right now? :D

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  • Ragged_Claw
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    To be fair if I went to a favorite restaurant, and ordered the same steak to find it was £10 more expensive than last time, I certainly would question it. Do I get more steak? Are there extra sides with it? Why is it £10 more than last time? If the reply explained to my satisfaction why it was more expensive then fine, I'd pay up without complaining. Questioning a price hike isn't complaining, it's asking a question. The question of why this expansion is more costly than the previous ones has not been answered yet. You can love something without being slavishly devoted to it and unquestioningly throwing money at it, you know.
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    idk wrote: »
    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only it was a triple A quality....

    Lucy, if you do not like the quality why are you here? Seriously.

    Just because someone doesn't think something is "AAA", doesn't mean they can't like or enjoy it. There's plenty of great non-"AAA" games out there.
    (I mean, just ask people who enjoy the EDF games - pretty sure they'll all say the game is like, "B", at best. :D)


    Not to say that I agree with their argument. /shrug
  • Zer0_CooL
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    So i just waited 20 minutes in IC, to get in to cyro, played 5min there, got logged out (no, not a total crash) which is even new to me, and found my self back in IC. Queue posigion 25. Triple A my arse you focking donkey!
    Edited by Zer0_CooL on January 22, 2020 8:35PM
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  • Rezdayn
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    Rezdayn wrote: »
    Wait wait wait... You are asking $60AUD for just a digital upgrade?...
    Hey ZOS can you sell the next "adventure" without the mount, without the pet, without the costume, without the single crate, without the treasure maps and without the exp scrolls?... That fluff is trash to a lot of people (not everyone) and without it you could surely make it a more reasonable price for Australians who are barely wanting to play your game as it is...

    Get rid of the trash items and make it $40AUD or at least take me to dinner before you....

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    No comment on why its more expensive from an official.
    Standard.
    AAA yall.
  • January1171
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    Rezdayn wrote: »
    Rezdayn wrote: »
    Wait wait wait... You are asking $60AUD for just a digital upgrade?...
    Hey ZOS can you sell the next "adventure" without the mount, without the pet, without the costume, without the single crate, without the treasure maps and without the exp scrolls?... That fluff is trash to a lot of people (not everyone) and without it you could surely make it a more reasonable price for Australians who are barely wanting to play your game as it is...

    Get rid of the trash items and make it $40AUD or at least take me to dinner before you....

    51 awesome/agree left.
    No comment on why its more expensive from an official.
    Standard.
    AAA yall.

    Because it's not more expensive. The price is the same as last year's chapter.
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    Rezdayn wrote: »
    Rezdayn wrote: »
    Wait wait wait... You are asking $60AUD for just a digital upgrade?...
    Hey ZOS can you sell the next "adventure" without the mount, without the pet, without the costume, without the single crate, without the treasure maps and without the exp scrolls?... That fluff is trash to a lot of people (not everyone) and without it you could surely make it a more reasonable price for Australians who are barely wanting to play your game as it is...

    Get rid of the trash items and make it $40AUD or at least take me to dinner before you....

    51 awesome/agree left.
    No comment on why its more expensive from an official.
    Standard.
    AAA yall.

    Because it's not more expensive. The price is the same as last year's chapter.

    Some countries it is.
  • Contaminate
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    Rezdayn wrote: »
    Rezdayn wrote: »
    Wait wait wait... You are asking $60AUD for just a digital upgrade?...
    Hey ZOS can you sell the next "adventure" without the mount, without the pet, without the costume, without the single crate, without the treasure maps and without the exp scrolls?... That fluff is trash to a lot of people (not everyone) and without it you could surely make it a more reasonable price for Australians who are barely wanting to play your game as it is...

    Get rid of the trash items and make it $40AUD or at least take me to dinner before you....

    51 awesome/agree left.
    No comment on why its more expensive from an official.
    Standard.
    AAA yall.

    Because it's not more expensive. The price is the same as last year's chapter.

    Lets be perfectly clear here, the same price would still be too high because there is less content.

    - Zone DLC
    - Two minigame timesinks, very likely Bejeweled themed
    - One 3-boss trial

    That’s it

    Meanwhile Morrowind added:
    - Battlegrounds, best PvP update this game’s seen when it got moved to base (soon to be ruined but it was good while it lasted)
    - Zone DLC
    - New Class
    - One 5-boss trial
  • Dawnblade
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only this were a AAA quality game.
  • hamgatan
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    The price is the same as last year. If you don't want to pay that but want to play it, you have options.

    1) Wait until second half of 2020 and it will go on sale
    2) Wait until 2021 chapter releases, get access to greymoor with eso+ (if pattern of chapters becoming dlc continues).

    That's the way it works. If you want to play it as soon as it drops, you have to pay the full price that is no more expensive than last year.

    Or 3. It's already up for 51 aud on cdkeys.. if someone exerts a little patience for a month or so it may be In the 40s on Kinguin shortly..
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  • Nanfoodle
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    Dawnblade wrote: »
    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only this were a AAA quality game.

    Think you should go spend some time playing some of the new MMOs out. Think you may have forgotten the garbage out there. I haven't. And if this game sucked so much. When you saw the price tag, you would have walked away as obviously there are better options that are cheaper.
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    andreasv wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only it was a triple A quality....

    Lucy, if you do not like the quality why are you here? Seriously.

    By sales of copies of the game this MMORPG is on part with top MMORPGs like FFIV. Comments look rather petty in light of that.

    It's called on par and I doubt Final Fantasy 4 was an MMO. XIV was though.

    Oh, thx for catching that. Yes, ESO is on par with FFXIV. Was typing on my phone.

    So yes, the person andreasv is far from correct.. ESO has been one of the top MMORPGs since it was released. Granted, there is not much competition and most of us are here because there is not a better MMORPG but that is pretty much normally the case. So yea.
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    idk wrote: »
    andreasv wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only it was a triple A quality....

    Lucy, if you do not like the quality why are you here? Seriously.

    By sales of copies of the game this MMORPG is on part with top MMORPGs like FFIV. Comments look rather petty in light of that.

    It's called on par and I doubt Final Fantasy 4 was an MMO. XIV was though.

    Oh, thx for catching that. Yes, ESO is on par with FFXIV. Was typing on my phone.

    So yes, the person andreasv is far from correct.. ESO has been one of the top MMORPGs since it was released. Granted, there is not much competition and most of us are here because there is not a better MMORPG but that is pretty much normally the case. So yea.

    There is about 200 active MMOs out right now. That the info on mmorpg.com. There are tones of options and ESO is one of the top MMO to date. They could ask for more just because of the demand. People will pay it.
    Edited by Nanfoodle on January 24, 2020 12:42AM
  • Dawnblade
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    Dawnblade wrote: »
    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    It's a shock and a wonder this thread is still going. I wonder how this argument would work in a restaurant? Sorry I don't like the cost of your triple A quality food. Ok good sir, pls head down the street to McDonalds. Or feel free to stand at the front door and bash our prices and quality to all the other customers.

    If only this were a AAA quality game.

    Think you should go spend some time playing some of the new MMOs out. Think you may have forgotten the garbage out there. I haven't. And if this game sucked so much. When you saw the price tag, you would have walked away as obviously there are better options that are cheaper.

    Parts of the game may be AAA - but the current overall quality level is not.

    Your hypothetical restaurant may have won five stars and occupy a fancy space, but if they mess up my order, burn my food, and spill the drinks, I'm not going to care and I'm not going to be willing to pay the same price as if they had performed at five star levels.

    ESO is the same way - an interesting IP in a pretty virtual world, but the game itself runs like some crap put out by a fly by night studio (e.g. cancelled events due to servers crashing / failed systems, incessant / excessive load screens, consistently buggy / laggy performance).

    Oh and just because there are worse games out there doesn't make this game great.
    Edited by Dawnblade on January 24, 2020 12:51AM
  • DaveMoeDee
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    dinklehorn wrote: »
    Can someone clarify for me..I thought ESO+ gave you free access to DLC content after a year of release. Does that include the chapter release as well? I bought Elswyr because I thought my ESO+ only gave me DLC access like dark brotherhood. Am I misunderstanding DLC vs. chapter content?

    No, ESO+ doesn't give you free access to anything because ESO+ isn't free.

    Yes, ESO+ gets you access to old chapters since they become crown store DLC when new chapter drops. That access does not include new classes though. Those are separate purchases.
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