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ESO WHY ARE YOU REWARDING FACE TANK META WITH OFF BALANCE CHANGE.

phoenixkungfu
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SMH HERE WE GO AGAIN. Your making a change that destroy a unpopular play style to balance a popular playstyle. Eso you cant just go and change something and not see how it domino effects others. I have been a loyal off balance lightning build for years. Before d swing and before new development team. I get that its unpopular to be a heavy attack pet sorcerer. Which is why I been nerf into the ground but I been here nevertheless. Playing and paying for eso plus. I'm a hardcore gamer not a new dlc tourist. So why do you find more creative way to upset a loyal gamer or customer. Your off balance change will not only effect 2 h builds but it will DESTROY HEAVY ATTACK BUILDS in pvp against any user with a purge or cleanse. This will encourage more face tanking builds and make templar even better. Templar tank while have insane burst is high enough. You basically dont have to line of slightly or be aware of your environment. You just have to face tank all damage and attack on your terms. So if off balance CAN simply be purge off or cleanse plus a cooldown. This will destroy any heavy attack weaving build. You need to adjust purge/cleanse abilities to not remove off balance if a off balance cooldown is going to be the new direction. Otherwise TEMPLAR WILL BE THE NEW OVERPOWERED META. PLEASE FIXTHIS ISSUE before live. Otherwise you WILL have a forum full of thread about this after the patch goes live. This off balance change is given WAY TO MUCH POWER TO A CLASS.
Edited by phoenixkungfu on January 23, 2020 12:48AM
  • ChunkyCat
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    needs more caps
  • OlumoGarbag
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    L2p, adept or do overload ganking if heavy attack is the only thing you care about. Honestly the off balance cooldown should tied to immuvable buff so its usefull in pve and you can still time your heavys in pvp. But atm its broken that you can have 100% off balance uptime
    class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling
  • Taleof2Cities
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    This is better discussed one of the ongoing PTS threads, @phoenixkungfu.

    We don’t need yet another thread in General Discussion.
  • Iccotak
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    To make it so people can read it.
    Block of texts are not fun.

    Also Caps doesn't help get your point across
    SMH HERE WE GO AGAIN. You're making a change that destroy a unpopular play style to balance a popular playstyle. Eso you cant just go and change something and not see how it domino effects others. I have been a loyal off balance lightning build for years. Before d swing and before new development team.

    I get that its unpopular to be a heavy attack pet sorcerer. Which is why I been nerf into the ground but I been here nevertheless. Playing and paying for ESO plus. I'm a hardcore gamer not a new dlc tourist. So why do you find more creative way to upset a loyal gamer or customer.

    Your off balance change will not only effect 2 h builds but it will DESTROY HEAVY ATTACK BUILDS in pvp against any user with a purge or cleanse. This will encourage more face tanking builds and make templar even better. Templar tank while have insane burst is high enough. You basically don't have to line of slightly or be aware of your environment.

    You just have to face tank all damage and attack on your terms. So if off balance CAN simply be purge off or cleanse plus a cooldown. This will destroy any heavy attack weaving build. You need to adjust purge/cleanse abilities to not remove off balance if a off balance cooldown is going to be the new direction.

    Otherwise TEMPLAR WILL BE THE NEW OVERPOWERED META. PLEASE FIXTHIS ISSUE before live. Otherwise you WILL have a forum full of thread about this after the patch goes live. This off balance change is given WAY TO MUCH POWER TO A CLASS.
  • ChunkyCat
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    Caps doesn't help get your point across

    LIAR
  • phoenixkungfu
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    L2p, adept or do overload ganking if heavy attack is the only thing you care about. Honestly the off balance cooldown should tied to immuvable buff so its usefull in pve and you can still time your heavys in pvp. But atm its broken that you can have 100% off balance uptime

    Purge and cleanse is already overpowered vs a heavy attack lightning build. For some reason unknown. Purge/cleanse breaks heavy attack. Which is silly because it's a direct damage attack. So with a cool down on off balance. Templar will have cleanse and destroy the whole playstyle. This is unacceptable. There is other playstyle then just class focus builds. This change will destroy a playstyle in pvp. Enough is enough. This change is NOT BALANCE and rewards player to NOT BE OFFENSIVE.
  • kongkim
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    needs more caps

    This is not "balanced" around you ;)
  • phoenixkungfu
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    Y'all trolling now
  • zvavi
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    L2p, adept or do overload ganking if heavy attack is the only thing you care about. Honestly the off balance cooldown should tied to immuvable buff so its usefull in pve and you can still time your heavys in pvp. But atm its broken that you can have 100% off balance uptime

    Purge and cleanse is already overpowered vs a heavy attack lightning build. For some reason unknown. Purge/cleanse breaks heavy attack. Which is silly because it's a direct damage attack. So with a cool down on off balance. Templar will have cleanse and destroy the whole playstyle. This is unacceptable. There is other playstyle then just class focus builds. This change will destroy a playstyle in pvp. Enough is enough. This change is NOT BALANCE and rewards player to NOT BE OFFENSIVE.

    Lightning and restoration heavy attacks are not direct damage they are DoT, only last tick is direct damage.
    Edited by zvavi on January 23, 2020 9:28AM
  • phoenixkungfu
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    zvavi wrote: »
    L2p, adept or do overload ganking if heavy attack is the only thing you care about. Honestly the off balance cooldown should tied to immuvable buff so its usefull in pve and you can still time your heavys in pvp. But atm its broken that you can have 100% off balance uptime

    Purge and cleanse is already overpowered vs a heavy attack lightning build. For some reason unknown. Purge/cleanse breaks heavy attack. Which is silly because it's a direct damage attack. So with a cool down on off balance. Templar will have cleanse and destroy the whole playstyle. This is unacceptable. There is other playstyle then just class focus builds. This change will destroy a playstyle in pvp. Enough is enough. This change is NOT BALANCE and rewards player to NOT BE OFFENSIVE.

    Lightning and restoration heavy attacks are not direct damage they are DoT, only last tick is direct damage.

    This is one of many issue. Any heavy attack in the game is the biggest Commitments of direct damage in the game. This is true because your committed to the damage. The same is true for lightning heavy attack its direct damage because I'm commit to the damage and locked in a animation. Or to Simplify I THE PLAYER IS DOING A DIRECT ATTACK. The dot element is Irrelevant, for I THE PLAYER IS DOING A DIRECT ATTACK. THEREFORE ITS DIRECT DAMAGE. Not just the last attack of lightning damage but all of the attack. Forever nerf
    Edited by phoenixkungfu on January 23, 2020 10:13AM
  • zvavi
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    zvavi wrote: »
    L2p, adept or do overload ganking if heavy attack is the only thing you care about. Honestly the off balance cooldown should tied to immuvable buff so its usefull in pve and you can still time your heavys in pvp. But atm its broken that you can have 100% off balance uptime

    Purge and cleanse is already overpowered vs a heavy attack lightning build. For some reason unknown. Purge/cleanse breaks heavy attack. Which is silly because it's a direct damage attack. So with a cool down on off balance. Templar will have cleanse and destroy the whole playstyle. This is unacceptable. There is other playstyle then just class focus builds. This change will destroy a playstyle in pvp. Enough is enough. This change is NOT BALANCE and rewards player to NOT BE OFFENSIVE.

    Lightning and restoration heavy attacks are not direct damage they are DoT, only last tick is direct damage.

    This is one of many issue. Any heavy attack in the game is the biggest Commitments of direct damage in the game. This is true because your committed to the damage. The same is true for lightning heavy attack its direct damage because I'm commit to the damage and locked in a animation. Or to Simplify I THE PLAYER IS DOING A DIRECT ATTACK. The dot element is Irrelevant, for I THE PLAYER IS DOING A DIRECT ATTACK. THEREFORE ITS DIRECT DAMAGE. Not just the last attack of lightning damage but all of the attack.

    Attacks are either direct damage, or damage over time. Lightning and restoration heavy attacks fall under damage over time, pretty self explanatory. So the DoT element plays a huge role in deciding if it is direct damage or not, since everything that is not DoT is direct damage. I assume i have earned an insightful for explaining game mechanics.
    Edited by zvavi on January 23, 2020 10:14AM
  • MerguezMan
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    Ok... I'll try to write in the same way, so you may understand better.

    ONCEAGAIN youARE NOTPOSTING in theCORRECTsection ofFORUMS. THEREisALREADY aTHREADABOUT OFFBALANCEhere: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/509418/off-balance-change IFTHATisNOTenoughYOUCAN check THEotherTHREADS here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts

    You may not create a new thread when there's an ongoing one about the exact same thing.

    Hope this helps.

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    Edited by MerguezMan on January 23, 2020 11:17AM
  • Tryxus
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    needs more caps

    Captain+capslock+reporting+for+duty+_489ac94547ee2b11de16841c77f52cf9.png
    Edited by Tryxus on January 23, 2020 11:01AM
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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  • phoenixkungfu
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    zvavi wrote: »
    zvavi wrote: »
    L2p, adept or do overload ganking if heavy attack is the only thing you care about. Honestly the off balance cooldown should tied to immuvable buff so its usefull in pve and you can still time your heavys in pvp. But atm its broken that you can have 100% off balance uptime

    Purge and cleanse is already overpowered vs a heavy attack lightning build. For some reason unknown. Purge/cleanse breaks heavy attack. Which is silly because it's a direct damage attack. So with a cool down on off balance. Templar will have cleanse and destroy the whole playstyle. This is unacceptable. There is other playstyle then just class focus builds. This change will destroy a playstyle in pvp. Enough is enough. This change is NOT BALANCE and rewards player to NOT BE OFFENSIVE.

    Lightning and restoration heavy attacks are not direct damage they are DoT, only last tick is direct damage.

    This is one of many issue. Any heavy attack in the game is the biggest Commitments of direct damage in the game. This is true because your committed to the damage. The same is true for lightning heavy attack its direct damage because I'm commit to the damage and locked in a animation. Or to Simplify I THE PLAYER IS DOING A DIRECT ATTACK. The dot element is Irrelevant, for I THE PLAYER IS DOING A DIRECT ATTACK. THEREFORE ITS DIRECT DAMAGE. Not just the last attack of lightning damage but all of the attack.

    Attacks are either direct damage, or damage over time. Lightning and restoration heavy attacks fall under damage over time, pretty self explanatory. So the DoT element plays a huge role in deciding if it is direct damage or not, since everything that is not DoT is direct damage.

    This is the most@$$ backwards way of thinking I have EVER SEEN. If I the player is doing the damage its direct damage. During any heavy attack I'm locked in the animation and I am unable to pre form another move. This is direct damage
  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    needs more caps

    for sure
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